Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

A hit series with a 1 million first printing. We want to create a series that once again is able to become a hit with kids, like One piece, Naruto and Bleach. Right now, Jump is lacking in characters that all young boys know." He continues, "Comic print circulation isn't everything but creating a character that everyone in the world knows is important. We want to create interesting manga. This is a joke but, we want to undertake world conquest with characters."

hxh was left off, sad.

Surprised no mention of heroaca, wheres the faith.

 

[Caiops]

The real loser this time is RxL. Volume 5 sold almost 16k less than Volume 2 at the same amount of days.

│*59344 (5)│*81469│------│------│------┃*,*81,469 (*12)┃2017/10｜ROBOT×LASERBEAM 2
│*43472 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*43,472 (**5)┃2018/05｜ROBOT×LASERBEAM 5

Why do you hate RxL so much?

Stop, it hurts ;-;

 

[TM2]

I can't help but feel that the approach they intend to take is rather dated and overly simplistic.

 

[xAsum0x]

This week we can make a nice comparison to BC vol. 10 which came out back when the anime began in October.

│100937 (5)│144506│165512│180954│194163┃*,194,163 (*33)┃2017/10｜ブラッククローバー 13
│142077 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,142,077 (**5)┃2018/05｜ブラッククローバー 16

Looking at it 2 cours later there is a boost as it did almost as much as Vol 13 did in 12 days in 5 days. However I don't think this volume will be able to pass 300k either.

Soma also continues in its decline selling less than Volume 27 which had one day less for its first week. Up till now, Soma was able to pass 300k and the anime is running but we'll see if it does pass it.

--- Double Post Merged, May 9, 2018, Original Post Date: May 9, 2018 ---

https://mantan-web.jp/article/20180509dog00m200045000c.html

At the event "Jump's Future 2018", Nakano gave an interview and talked about what they (the editorial) wants to do from here on out. When the topic of what current Jump is lacking he answered, "A hit series with a 1 million first printing. We want to create a series that once again is able to become a hit with kids, like One piece, Naruto and Bleach. Right now, Jump is lacking in characters that all young boys know." He continues, "Comic print circulation isn't everything but creating a character that everyone in the world knows is important. We want to create interesting manga. This is a joke but, we want to undertake world conquest with characters."

Regarding current Jump he says, "Jump is struggling with series that are aimed at kids. The age of the readership is also growing. Kids are watching Youtube, so that has become the rival. If there was an app that could connect kids with manga." The previous EiC Heishi was also there and he says, "Overseas, even if the story isn't received well, the characters are. The power of characters is strong and so we want to use them well."

This is rather interesting but again they seem to be focused on physical print numbers. Its nice that they're looking to make an app but I really have to wonder what their plans for digital ventures are. Also, it was mentioned previously that Stone was popular among kids so that might be one reason they're putting a lot of effort into promoting it. I can also see Build King being liked by kids and them pushing that as well.

All this confirmed for me was that Nakano hates MHA /s

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

This week we can make a nice comparison to BC vol. 10 which came out back when the anime began in October.

│100937 (5)│144506│165512│180954│194163┃*,194,163 (*33)┃2017/10｜ブラッククローバー 13
│142077 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,142,077 (**5)┃2018/05｜ブラッククローバー 16

Looking at it 2 cours later there is a boost as it did almost as much as Vol 13 did in 12 days in 5 days. However I don't think this volume will be able to pass 300k either.

Soma also continues in its decline selling less than Volume 27 which had one day less for its first week. Up till now, Soma was able to pass 300k and the anime is running but we'll see if it does pass it.

--- Double Post Merged, May 9, 2018, Original Post Date: May 9, 2018 ---

https://mantan-web.jp/article/20180509dog00m200045000c.html

At the event "Jump's Future 2018", Nakano gave an interview and talked about what they (the editorial) wants to do from here on out. When the topic of what current Jump is lacking he answered, "A hit series with a 1 million first printing. We want to create a series that once again is able to become a hit with kids, like One piece, Naruto and Bleach. Right now, Jump is lacking in characters that all young boys know." He continues, "Comic print circulation isn't everything but creating a character that everyone in the world knows is important. We want to create interesting manga. This is a joke but, we want to undertake world conquest with characters."

Regarding current Jump he says, "Jump is struggling with series that are aimed at kids. The age of the readership is also growing. Kids are watching Youtube, so that has become the rival. If there was an app that could connect kids with manga." The previous EiC Heishi was also there and he says, "Overseas, even if the story isn't received well, the characters are. The power of characters is strong and so we want to use them well."

This is rather interesting but again they seem to be focused on physical print numbers. Its nice that they're looking to make an app but I really have to wonder what their plans for digital ventures are. Also, it was mentioned previously that Stone was popular among kids so that might be one reason they're putting a lot of effort into promoting it. I can also see Build King being liked by kids and them pushing that as well.

They already mentioned Build King?

Well, I can totally see it debuting in one moment of this year. My bet is autumn.

 

[iceemperor]

They already mentioned Build King?

Well, I can totally see it debuting in one moment of this year. My bet is autumn.

They didn't mention Build King. That was my speculation regarding something kids might take to. That doesn't mean it will become a huge hit but at least its in line with their plan of getting kids back into Jump.

 

[SharkBait]

Get some tcgs in jump and the next beyblade to get kids. I love these.

 

[TM2]

Is there a reason that Jump editorial is so focused on print numbers? What kind of advantage does it offer them over electronic copies?

 

[Newkerzy]

Nothing. It's just that Nakano is still stuck in the glory days of the Golden Era of Jump. If Jump wanted to, they could sell single chapters for a buck a piece digitally like comixology does with mangas. The biggest downside, is of course, that newcomers wouldn't have better chances to establish themselves. However, this should be off-set by a model that provides free downloads up until 7-8 chapters for these upstarts. And if readers like it enough, they would pay for the following chapters.

 

[De La Croissant]

If Nakano were the leader of a record company, I bet he would still be looking for ways to sell CDs.

 

[SharkBait]

Is there a reason that Jump editorial is so focused on print numbers?

perhaps for some series, the lowering print numbers arent being replaced by people buying the digital copies.


Also, unless Im wrong, you dont really see even 10% of the jump+ digital series actually getting big sales, I think theres only been three jump+ original breakout hits?

 

[ChocoBar9]

If Nakano were the leader of a record company, I bet he would still be looking for ways to sell CDs.

Nakano in a nutshell

 

[SharkBait]

If Nakano were the leader of a record company, I bet he would still be looking for ways to sell CDs.

Vinyl records have actually been on the rise though.

And actually

CDs and vinyl are more popular than digital downloads once again " digital download sales have fallen so much in the past few years that they’re now smaller than sales of CDs, vinyl, and other physical media, which hasn’t been the case since 2011." https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/22/17152120/digital-downloads-cd-vinyl-riaa-2017-report

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Though, I guess the true savior of Jump would be a Shueisha type of Hulu/Netflix/etc service to where you can read as much manga as you want...but its doubtful something like that will happen.

 

[TyVip]

One million first printing sounds nice

 

[De La Croissant]

Vinyl records have actually been on the rise though.

And actually

CDs and vinyl are more popular than digital downloads once again " digital download sales have fallen so much in the past few years that they’re now smaller than sales of CDs, vinyl, and other physical media, which hasn’t been the case since 2011." https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/22/17152120/digital-downloads-cd-vinyl-riaa-2017-report

Cool, we should invest in it, then.

 

[Belkac3m]

Music will be the same whatever the medium we use, we can not compare it with paper and digital books

 

[SharkBait]

Music will be the same whatever the medium we use, we can not compare it with paper and digital books

I dont understand, since writing on paper has been the same for thousands of years.

--- Double Post Merged, May 10, 2018, Original Post Date: May 9, 2018 ---

Fervently praying for top 6 debut for Ziga.

Next week it will rise. Still praying.

 

[101nemesis]

Music will be the same whatever the medium we use, we can not compare it with paper and digital books

You can actually. Music is a lot easier to consume, store and share digitally without the need of a CD and physical format but the fact is that physical formats are still popular. Whenever popular artists release new music, physical copies sold of albums are almost always more.
It's a good comparison to books and paper going digital because they both were and still are consumed by physical copies but can also be more easily accessed by digital means.

 

[iceemperor]

All this confirmed for me was that Nakano hates MHA /s

Well something has to be said for how recently a lot of the push seems to be coming from Toho in the form of anime, goods, etc.

 

[Obitooooo]

Total Sales ( 30 April - 6 May ) :

02) Food Wars : 183.887
03) Black Clover : 181.793
04) My Hero Academia : 167.502
06) Boruto : 134.017

Total sales april ( 9 April - 7 May ) :

03) My Hero Academia : 624.474
08) Haikyu !! ; 334.081
10) The Promised Neverland : 300.945
14) Black Clover : 254.943
18) Food Wars : 200.426