Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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We are specifically talking about when a series starts off as a low-mid or low TOC placer before suddenly beginning to place highly a lot.
The explanation is that the editors data showed the series was growing.
I mainly directing towards the ppl that claim Jump is forcing pushes for certain series.

Just saying that I don’t think the ToC matters THAT much. Clearly the bottom is for series on the verge of cancellation. But I don’t think the other placements really matter all that much
 

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I was talking about issue 32.
Yes it's been low at times. But to date it's never bottomed out at the level of a Ziga. It has pretty much always fluttered at the top of the bottom or most of the time just above it. But like I said it's been gaining traction since around chapter 8. It is possible for a series that isn't particularly popular to improve same as one that is to fall out of favor. But I disagree with the notion that editors see a series that isn't doing well then go out of their way to force it down people's throats. Not a good business model. They probably do however see a series improving on its own and decide to capitalize on it, hence color pages and all the rest. That's what they should do. But no, they are not picking winners and losers and no, Jujutsu is not being given any special treatment. Any promotion it's getting is well deserved and that's not my opinion on the series but rather what I've observed in it's sales and improvement on rankings despite how it was doing initially which we can all agree wasn't great. Not catastrophic because it would have been gone already, but not great.
 

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More info about Hinomaru Zumou anime

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some of these characters they casted only appear after 10 volumes in

pretty sure the anime won't adapt the manga faithfully

guess we all already knew since it's fucking Gonzo

Or why Nonoue never came back to Jump.
he had a oneshot in GIGA 2 months ago, I didn't read it myself but seen people on 5ch saying it was good
so he could return soon
 

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Whatever makes you sleep at night.

Yep that's why Yusuke became a demon, we had another spirit detective who had multiple personality disorder and was also a gay man, and the last arc was yet another tournament arc but with all the fights skipped.
Just do not answer a comment if it's to make fun when you have no arguments.

What's the point of having a new detective? with arguments please. The last arc was to be a war, the author did not continue because of problems with shueshia.
 

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some of these characters they casted only appear after 10 volumes in

pretty sure the anime won't adapt the manga faithfully

guess we all already knew since it's fucking Gonzo
Watch as the anime starts with the Inter High tournament and skips over the first 100 chapters.
 

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Just do not answer a comment if it's to make fun when you have no arguments.

What's the point of having a new detective? with arguments please. The last arc was to be a war, the author did not continue because of problems with shueshia.
You literally have no proof that he was forced to continue. Either bad writing is bad or Togashi was forced to mske those decisions.
 

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some of these characters they casted only appear after 10 volumes in
remember when I said 1volume/episode OR lots of skipping.


I hope HZ fans are prepared for their anime to be the next Zetman type of adaptation.
 

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Togashi said that his "attemps to deconstruct the characters were turned down by jump" that "he didn't have the strength physically and mentally to keep doing the same thing over and over"
And a lot of mangaka repete the same things over and over and are claimed to be genius
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You literally have no proof that he was forced to continue. Either bad writing is bad or Togashi was forced to mske those decisions.
What do you call bad writing ?
 

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When everyone in a thread you're involved in claims that you are the source and you never tell them you're not or correct them, then you are pretty much claiming to be the source.
No offense but that's an idiotic statement.
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Everyone sure is going crazy over that Boruto epiosde. The fight scenes look incredible, if you haven't seen them go check it out.
 

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It's miles better than the movie after all.
 

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some of these characters they casted only appear after 10 volumes in

pretty sure the anime won't adapt the manga faithfully

guess we all already knew since it's fucking Gonzo
We've known from early on that the anime will adapt all of part 1, what we don't know yet (I think) is how long it'll take to do that. Ideally it'd be 39 or 50 eps of course but I don't think Gonzo's even had a series go past 1 cour since Saki almost 10 years ago, and we haven't had a series go more than two cour I think since Kaleido Star way back in 2004 (aside from a couple collaborations with international companies).

I suppose we should be glad it's getting an anime at all though after 200 chapters of never growing in popularity. Even if it ends up not being great it's at least something.
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I wonder if the Zumou manga will end while the anime's ongoing, the current stuff feels like it could be the final arc if need be but I could see it getting one more too.
 

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Yeah this Gonzo adaptation doesn't seem that promising the more "updates" we get. Maybe getting Toei wouldn't have been all that bad.
 

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When's Viz's comicon thing today? Since we could see english jump announcement there.
 

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Everyone sure is going crazy over that Boruto epiosde. The fight scenes look incredible, if you haven't seen them go check it out.
I haven't seen a single episode of the Boruto anime, movie nor have i read a chapter of the manga. But i had to check this episode out because a lot of famous animators and freelancers were hyping it up on twitter this past week (reminds of when animators hyped up the 22nd episode of Fate/Apocrypha on twitter). It was beautiful specially during the hand to hand combat. Also, the use of some old Naruto OST was very nice too.

No offense but that's an idiotic statement.
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Sure you are free to believe so. And don't worry, no offence taken.
Also, I wasn't addressing his legitimacy, since that is not what i want to talk about/discuss in here.
 

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We've known from early on that the anime will adapt all of part 1, what we don't know yet (I think) is how long it'll take to do that. Ideally it'd be 39 or 50 eps of course
I think what they meant was you don't announce characters voice actors that won't appear until the second or third cour before the show airs. Now is usually the cast in the first 1-4 episodes.

When's Viz's comicon thing today? Since we could see english jump announcement there.
Sharkbait already answered but there's also a SHonen Jump panel Sunday at 11:15 AM PT so I'd personally expect it there if they were to announce a new series for Jump over the Viz panel.
 

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some of these characters they casted only appear after 10 volumes in

pretty sure the anime won't adapt the manga faithfully

guess we all already knew since it's fucking Gonzo
I'm still holding faith since some series are adapted at ~5 chapters per episode and still work out extremely well, and I can kinda see HZ fitting that category simply due to how the chapters are constructed. But for that they'd need 3 cours... and I just can't see that happening. Gonzo's track record doesn't help either lol.

Although at the end of the day, it can still be a satisfying watch even if they skip a lot if they know where to put their resources. Also unlikely though. Things really haven't been great for new Jump anime recently. I guess Saiki was the last thing we got that was done well (despite the low budget). BC & Houshin Engi sucked, Yuuna is looking extremely bland much like Soma's adaptation, Muhyo and HZ aren't looking great...
 

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If I remember correctly, Kubo once stated Bleach was supposed to end by SS arc but it changed as the manga got more popular, hinting at WSJ wanting him to continue due to the popularity.
Also Bakuman heavily hinted at the fact that the second part of Death Note happened only because of WSJ pushing them for it.
It's not wrong to assume WSJ would do it. If a series sells millions, why wouldn't they try to push authors who they pay to continue and milk maximum amounts of money?
No offense but that's an idiotic statement.
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It's not a wrong statement at all. You're letting a lie continue knowingly because you know people might consider you more important if the lie is what they believe in.

Also, just curious but didn't the admin/mod ask you to stop sharing random tweets and if you're doing it to do it together at once?
 
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