I do'nt know if your last sentence was directed to me especially, if so i'm sorry. I admit i'm reading all of this durng my work time (computer science so i'm always in front of my comp) and as such i might miss things.
Anyway, when you say "The single time he went for our detective, we lack a kill.", aren't you suggesting that Seraph is mafia and recruited James? Because that could be the case, but then it adds more weight into lynching Seraph. Plus if Seraph recruited James why would james try so hard to lynch him now? Unless of course i misunderstood what you're saying.
@James Rye uhhh, as if this game wasn't confusing enough lol
I don't understand one thing from your theory though, why do you think there are 3 or 4 mafia teams? Because if your theory is correct, that explains why the janitor wasn't there yet in the first night, so there could very well be only 2 mafia teams. Am i missing something? A mafia member upgraded to janitor in the first night, and another upgraded to escort in the second night, which explains why there was no janitor kill N1 and why you didnt get blocked N2.
My theory is this:
There are 2 Mafias, both starting with 3-4 members.
They are all "Grunts" as in they have to gain "Nen" powers which are basically mafia jobs like janitor, escort, Pirate, etc due either killing or lynching townies. Same as in OPM game.
All traitors in-game are naive traitors because
a) if Gry had been a real traitor he would have started with one name like the rest of us traitors never with 3. Panda would not give real traitors such an easy way with 3 mafia targets, too risky.
b) the balance of the game, as Holt said, would be pretty difficult with traitors in-game as normally you only got one traitor in-game anyway not a lot. Take me for example: I am an insane Det, thus that mean I am really a naive Traitor? What if I had been a real one and I got recruited and am just bs my way out the entire time (which ofc is not the case with my innocent and guilty result, but you get it)? Or Docs? Or any other role? What if tehre are 6 real traitors? And what if all of them gets recruited by just one mafia while the other is unlucky and only hits naive traitors or no traitors? You really think Panda would do so much work to balance the game by checking what roles would be ok for being real traitors and what not? And then the whole one name business? What if your contact dies and is a mafia before you got recruited? Then what do you do then? In other words: Easy way out for Panda was to do two normal sized Mafias for this game and just throw in random naive traitors with random names for fun and to prevent having every night two dead traitors he made that rule of hiding killed traitor roles to not have everyone,e specially the mafia, get suspect at the whole traitor deal.
c) We got way too many no traitors in this game. If you wanna hide more than one real traitors what do you need? A bunch of naive traitors. Yet we got a lot of people claiming they aren't traitors. Why? With that rule Panda could have easily made EVRY Townie a traitor mostly naive some real for max effect. It would have been hidden away due night kills anyway. So the only explanation I have for so many no traitor roles is that the traitor roles we got in-game are all "fake", all naive.
d) We got so far 2 kills per night, this night was the first with only one kill. Now what is more likely? That EVERY SINGLE NIGHT somebody got recruited, protected or blocked from killing somebody? Or that there are only 2 killing parties killing naive traitors and no traitors alike while wondering why they aren't hitting any real ones yet? If there are only 2 killing parties than last night was the night where they for the first time recruited somebody. However, with gregs reveal to be revealed today as innocent child it would make more sense for mafia to get rid of him or other active role claimers though with active ones they risk killing the other mafia party too soon. So it is likely greg was supposed to die last time, probably due Empty, and was protected by somebody else. Empty "forgetting" to include greg's name for 2 nights and Farf finding it out and exposing it and Empty being all "oh noes, my bad" seems at least to point in that direction. After all if we really are triplets roles in this game: Where is the 3rd Bomb defuser? Where are the other docs and dets? How come no bodyguard came forth yet?
and e) There is no way the Escort Mafia would have let me investigate somebody in night 2. It was a perfect set-up to get my lynched next day, especially since I had investigated Gry already, marking a mafia. So that means the Escort either did not belong to Gry, and even then they should have blocked me to claim I am a fake det next day, or it means there was no Escort on night 2 because the mafia has to level up first to get that role for one of their members.
So yeah, that's why I believe there are only naive traitors in this game and only 2 killing parties.
I meant Seraph could have protected James from a kill, just so we're clear.
Nah, not with a escort on me. At least the Mafia with the Escort would have not tried to kill me the same night and the other Mafia would have expected a doc or bodyguard to protect me because so far no bodyguard or doc died, expect ofc for the Janitor and his team to know. So I am pretty certain I was not targeted last night.
Bomb? It's true that it fits. But when you said it fits your character I was expecting something related to Netero's character as a martial artist. Something like PGO.
why did you take hint then?
