Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Caiops]

Wtf Sharkbait, Boku no Hero its in the peak right now, saleswise at least.

 

[Vizard]

 

[ShenGao]

realistic number is Kimetsu reaches 300,000 and stay there, and TPN reaches 700,000+ and stay there
^ right now KNY drops off of Oricon around ~150,000, and TPN around ~450,000

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

 

[Obitooooo]

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

Good animation (?).

 

[sakuratt91]

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

Fujos, Ufotable
Kimetsu has a big potential. But the art and the start are so bad that they make people not care much about it. But if Ufotable can catch more fujo's attention, it will bloom. It seems Ufotable invest much money in Kimetsu.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

You have been speaking mainly about TPN and Kimetsu sales, but the fact is that the most hyped series together with TPN over the entire last year has been Dr.Stone. Still, Dr.Stone sales were lower than BokuBen if I recall, but last time I saw Dr.Stone sale numbers was like at beginning of the year.

Also, Dr.Stone is the only series where we don't think any total number sales. So, how is in reality Dr.Stone doing? Is it choking? Is it being the great recent hit together TPN like Shueisha likes to tell us?

 

[ChocoBar9]

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

Because it has something Black Clover, Hinomaru and Yuuna never had and that's online recognition particularly in Japan. Black Clover was panned before the anime came about and nobody really cared about in fact the anime might have helped its reputation a bit and brought in new buyers but it was a pathetic boost for something that has been pushed as long as it, nobody really cared about Yuuna or Hinomaru (unfortunately) but Kimetsu already has a significant following as it is right not, its not big but the fact that there's doujin circles and special events for it before the first trailer has been released says a lot about how anticpated it is. And manga tripling its numbers has been done MANY times before this decade and the anime doesn't have to be good (Tokyo Ghoul) you just need a hook Kimetsu has a hook that all those titles you mentioned didn't have. At that same token I can just be talking out my ass and Kimetsu will not have a boost that big and all its pre-hype will be for naught but I've seen this happen too many times and I have a feeling that Kimetsu will get a big boost

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 28, 2018, Original Post Date: Nov 28, 2018 ---

You have been speaking mainly about TPN and Kimetsu sales, but the fact is that the most hyped series together with TPN over the entire last year has been Dr.Stone. Still, Dr.Stone sales were lower than BokuBen if I recall, but last time I saw Dr.Stone sale numbers was like at beginning of the year.

Also, Dr.Stone is the only series where we don't think any total number sales. So, how is in reality Dr.Stone doing? Is it choking? Is it being the great recent hit together TPN like Shueisha likes to tell us?

Nobody cares about Dr. Stone man. The fact that the Jujutsu PR campaign announcement had more people talking than the Dr. Stone anime announcement says a lot about its online presence. Its only hope is to secure a timeslot next to One Piece where most kids will be watching to get some sort of attention.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 28, 2018 ---

Fujos, Ufotable
Kimetsu has a big potential. But the art and the start are so bad that they make people not care much about it. But if Ufotable can catch more fujo's attention, it will bloom. It seems Ufotable invest much money in Kimetsu.

Yep the fact that they're actually trying with it shows that they do want it to succeed.

 

[Pietro]

I'm worried about shokugeki no soma... almost dead last for many weeks. I hope it doesn't become the new nurarhyon no mago and they make it finish... Same thing for yuragi

 

[cody]

Fujos, Ufotable
Kimetsu has a big potential. But the art and the start are so bad that they make people not care much about it. But if Ufotable can catch more fujo's attention, it will bloom. It seems Ufotable invest much money in Kimetsu.

The art and the beginning are good actually, if that weren't the case Kimetsu probably would have not been around right now.

 

[DJBlitzkrieg]

The art and the beginning are good actually, if that weren't the case Kimetsu probably would have not been around right now.

I really liked the atmosphere from the early art, something that seems to have gradually changed the more the story goes (which isn't a bad thing at all).

 

[shoyoboyo]

The art definitely changed noticeably from the beginning arcs to now. I noticed it since I started reading the volumes, but Tanjiro looked more "serious" more often in the beginning. Nowadays though we get more potatoes of the characters, but usually only in the humourous moments.

 

[MangAniMY]

wait, 28th Dec?

 

[DyanSon]

wait, 28th Dec?

Yey it's on my birthday then

 

[De La Croissant]

Kimetsu's first arc is quite forgettable, but I can see the first chapter, with all its tragedy, making a strong impression. Don't disappoint me, Ufotable.

 

[101nemesis]

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

Great story/setting, an actual decent studio unlike BC?
What can Kimetsu do? The same thing any anime adaptation does. How many readers it brings is dependent on the adaptation and how much better it can make the story standout to grab attention.

Kimetsu has a big potential. But the art and the start are so bad that they make people not care much about it.

I'll never understand the issue people have with Kimetsu's art. It's unique, detailed when it comes to character details and great to look at. I'm glad it doesn't look like every other generic manga out there.

 

[Vizard]

Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! #3 (END)

Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai #9

Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san #13

Shokugeki no Soma #32

Haikyuu!!! #35

 

[SharkBait]

Fujos, Ufotable
Kimetsu has a big potential. But the art and the start are so bad that they make people not care much about it. But if Ufotable can catch more fujo's attention, it will bloom. It seems Ufotable invest much money in Kimetsu.

unfortunately I dont think people care that much about studio, or if "fujos" or other groups of avid anime fans care for that matter, Using Sword Boys, it is clear more were moved and flocked towards Doga Koba's Touken Ranbu Hanamaru over Ufotables Token Ranbu Katsugeki. Perhaps fans may flock to Ufotables movie for it, but it is still clear Hanamaru is what people preferred.

Otherwise I dont understand what reasoning people are using for Ufotable catching peoples attention, like when have they ever outside of Fate? I dont recall Zestiria causing tons new game copies to be sold or for that matter being relevant for Berseria, while I love God Eater, it is clear it didnt seem like anyone really latched on to the franchise because of the anime.

If anything Ufotable has an unproven or actually an unknown track record for the discussion.

Additionally, I think it spells bad news for your series if you have such little faith in it that you think it has no appeal to the general anime fan, and will only appeal to one market of fan, the "fujos". Surely to get to +500K - 1500K sales your series needs to actually be selling to multiple subsets of anime fans, not just one. Does one really think "fujos" are why TPN and HeroAca are popular, and that the only way Kimetsu will reach those level is to appeal to fujos? Really, just a laughable implication of people baking on this for their hopes for Kimetsu to explode.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

 

[Nemesis]

Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! #3 (END)

Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai #9

Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san #13

Shokugeki no Soma #32

Haikyuu!!! #35

Yuri confirmed for Rizu

 

[Caiops]

Realistic number is Kimetsu barely reaches above 200k. Kimetsu is doing the same numbers Black Clover did before it's anime and Black Clover's boost is somewhere in the range of 30k to 50k. Yuuna didn't get a noticeable boost at all with it's anime. Hinomaru doesn't seem to get any boost either.
Why some of you think Kimetsu can double or even triple it's numbers is beyond me. What could Kimetsu's anime do so special that 150k or even 300k people who didn't care about it suddenly have the urge to buy and read it?

Because of Rengoku and Zenitsu.

They are cute and everyone will love then.