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sobreno

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You know what? Believe what you want. I don't have the time, the energy and the motivation to discuss something with a guy who thinks he's always right and is rude asf towards different opinions. Have a nice day.

PD: Btw, don't bother in trying to write anything more.
Sure, you will realize how much I was right anyway.

Not giving any appreciation on Mel's feat as well as looking down on him is your only specialty here.
Despite the manga making him the only one capable of harming Ban's body with a strange power which was touched again in Purgatory by him.

Despite having FC which is the perfect tool against a guy who only weapons is magic attack.
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Does Sobreno still saying Meliodas bypassed the Ruler without giving any concrete evidence?
Lmao, he literally did it and the burden of proof is on you.
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Of course he is, its the only thing he talks about 100% of the time and isn't even good at it.
Nice denial of the manga once again.

Literally the DK noted that only his power could fight him and he was beyond surprised after he get hakai-ed.

Downplaying Mel as much as possible is your only talk.
 

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LMAO the DK deactivated The Ruler when Meliodas cut his arm.

gtfo with this headcannon
>At not using the Ruler when he literally stated that without his OG, he couldn't fight him after his FC couldn't bypass it. And using it all the time against him during 60 years.

>At being beyond surprised after he got hakai-ed after stated that it was impossible.

>At denying that he need only a single moment to switch on or off the Ruler and he had all the time when Mel asked Ban to leave as far as possible.

Yeah, nice denial on the manga itself. That is my line, stop your stupid headcanon.
 
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Ichigo kurosaki vs meliodas
genrysai yammamoto vs mael
who wins
 

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Most of you are including Elizabeth and Ban based on nothing yet, while leaving the lnduras out. Weird rankings.:eyeroll
 

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Most of you are including Elizabeth and Ban based on nothing yet, while leaving the lnduras out. Weird rankings.:eyeroll
Well,
Liz >1 Indura => Performance wise

Ludo = Held back +
Ludo = Liz => Mael
 

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Sure, you will realize how much I was right anyway.

Not giving any appreciation on Mel's feat as well as looking down on him is your only specialty here.
Despite the manga making him the only one capable of harming Ban's body with a strange power which was touched again in Purgatory by him.

Despite having FC which is the perfect tool against a guy who only weapons is magic attack.
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Lmao, he literally did it and the burden of proof is on you.
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Nice denial of the manga once again.

Literally the DK noted that only his power could fight him and he was beyond surprised after he get hakai-ed.

Downplaying Mel as much as possible is your only talk.
Stop using phrases you don't know what they mean. You're the one who originally made that statement, the burden of proof is on YOU.
 

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Does Sobreno still say Meliodas bypassed the Ruler without giving any concrete evidence?
if it didn't bypassed the magic that zeldris borrowed why would zeldris state that meliodas doing the same ability against him was impossible cuz of him using the darkness that i proved many times every demon who uses darkness as "offense" considers to be magical ability rather than physical.

at this point you're debunking a character's statement without actually proving they are inconsistent.
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>Ignores Gowther's statement of Mel and Mael being comparable to each other.
>Ignores how they clashed, creating a ying-yang symbol indicating once more that their powers were comparable.
>Sees an off-panel statement that Mael somehow retreated.

Conclusion: Mel stomps Mael at noon. Yeah, seems perfectly logical :facepalm
is there any logical explanation mael stomps meliodas at noon?? there isn't because all of this arguments are just opinionated nothing based on facts.

but using statements meliodas HAS far shown to be more powerful due to his impact more than mael when he tilted the balance.
Since you're using yin and yang symbol to say they are comparable HERE'S the actual studies showing what it actually represents :Yin and yang is a complex, relational concept in Chinese culture that has developed over thousands of years. Briefly put, the meaning of yin and yang is that the universe is governed by a cosmic duality, sets of two opposing and complementing principles or cosmic energies that can be observed in nature.

so no in religious concept yin and yang is only 2 contradictory forces and it doesn't talk about how both are equal. That panel about the symbol clearly implies they represent what the color nature of their clan is which makes more sense than your headcanon on what yin and yang is.
For two, it's always been translated even with different translation both are equal and yes it doesn't matter which mael because gowther has memories of his OG creator since he's made for og gowther to see without being in the present. If both are equal why did mael retreat after that? your explanation has holes.
 

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Meliodas’ cooking vs purgatory demon king
No one can survive his cooking apart from Hawk.

Edit seeing @Seven777 arguing reminds me of our good old days in the FT section when we used to argue about Ft in domus Flau or the Power ranking thread.
 

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No one can survive his cooking apart from Hawk.

Edit seeing @Seven777 arguing reminds me of our good old days in the FT section when we used to argue about Ft in domus Flau or the Power ranking thread.
Arguing with some of these Mel fans reminds me of those times with sharkai, but he was more polite lol.
 

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Stop using phrases you don't know what they mean. You're the one who originally made that statement, the burden of proof is on YOU.
I already given the proof lol.

It isn't my fault if you are in denial about it.

>Not knowing their meaning. Talk about the irony, you are the one who can't understand anything.
 

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people wanna headcanon and say "meliodas never used magical attack since that's not his forte" shut up.
if you wanna debate so bad to what darkness is go to wiki because that is the only this forum trust, and look what it does t o demons who gains the power of darkness. This is like saying that curses of the commandments needs magic when it doesn't because it's already passive to the users. This is no different from darkness.
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@sobreno

do u have the interview link where nakaba stating about meliodas original power??
 

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if it didn't bypassed the magic that zeldris borrowed why would zeldris state that meliodas doing the same ability against him was impossible cuz of him using the darkness that i proved many times every demon who uses darkness as "offense" considers to be magical ability rather than physical.

at this point you're debunking a character's statement without actually proving they are inconsistent.
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is there any logical explanation mael stomps meliodas at noon?? there isn't because all of this arguments are just opinionated nothing based on facts.

but using statements meliodas HAS far shown to be more powerful due to his impact more than mael when he tilted the balance.
Since you're using yin and yang symbol to say they are comparable HERE'S the actual studies showing what it actually represents :Yin and yang is a complex, relational concept in Chinese culture that has developed over thousands of years. Briefly put, the meaning of yin and yang is that the universe is governed by a cosmic duality, sets of two opposing and complementing principles or cosmic energies that can be observed in nature.

so no in religious concept yin and yang is only 2 contradictory forces and it doesn't talk about how both are equal. That panel about the symbol clearly implies they represent what the color nature of their clan is which makes more sense than your headcanon on what yin and yang is.
For two, it's always been translated even with different translation both are equal and yes it doesn't matter which mael because gowther has memories of his OG creator since he's made for og gowther to see without being in the present. If both are equal why did mael retreat after that? your explanation has holes.
I'm not talking about Meliodas vs Zeldris you dumbass. Don't quote me if you don't know what I'm referring too.
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I already given the proof lol.

It isn't my fault if you are in denial about it.

>Not knowing their meaning. Talk about the irony, you are the one who can't understand anything.
You haven't. Your evidence is that the DK said that Meliodas could fight him with his OG magic, so because of that, in that specific moment it was active, which isn't valid. And makes no sense from a narrative standpoint. Your evidence isn't concrete.
 

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I'm not talking about Meliodas vs Zeldris you dumbass. Don't quote me if you don't know what I'm referring too.
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You haven't. Your evidence is that the DK said that Meliodas could fight him with his OG magic, so because of that, in that specific moment it was active, which isn't valid. And makes no sense from a narrative standpoint. Your evidence isn't concrete.
Yea, it is hence his surprise, that is your stance that makes no sense in the narrative standpoint.

You are spouting nonsense as the DK being unable to turn on and off in an instant his own ability and so far, most of that, it was turn on.
The burden of proof is on you as I said earlier.
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people wanna headcanon and say "meliodas never used magical attack since that's not his forte" shut up.
if you wanna debate so bad to what darkness is go to wiki because that is the only this forum trust, and look what it does t o demons who gains the power of darkness. This is like saying that curses of the commandments needs magic when it doesn't because it's already passive to the users. This is no different from darkness.
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@sobreno

do u have the interview link where nakaba stating about meliodas original power??
https://m.vk.com/nanadai?q=#interviews

Yes, but it was translated in Russian unfortunately.

It is on the Mel/Elizabeth pair sin section, below the Ban/Elaine one.
 

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Yea, it is hence his surprise, that is your stance that makes no sense in the narrative standpoint.

You are spouting nonsense as the DK being unable to turn on and off in an instant his own ability and so far, most of that, it was turn on.
The burden of proof is on you as I said earlier.
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https://m.vk.com/nanadai?q=#interviews

Yes, but it was translated in Russian unfortunately.

It is on the Mel/Elizabeth pair sin section, below the Ban/Elaine one.
c'mon dude just chill why are you getting so extreme
 

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Yea, it is hence his surprise, that is your stance that makes no sense in the narrative standpoint.

You are spouting nonsense as the DK being unable to turn on and off in an instant his own ability and so far, most of that, it was turn on.
The burden of proof is on you as I said earlier.
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https://m.vk.com/nanadai?q=#interviews

Yes, but it was translated in Russian unfortunately.

It is on the Mel/Elizabeth pair sin section, below the Ban/Elaine one.
Or the DK is shocked that he used his ability, because like he said, Meliodas was AFRAID.

Never did I denyhe cant turn the Ruler on and off, I just said you CANT PROVE it was on when Meliodas took his arm.

You never proved anything, hence why the burden of still on you. Goodness you are dense.
 

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Or the DK is shocked that he used his ability, because like he said, Meliodas was AFRAID.

Never did I denyhe cant turn the Ruler on and off, I just said you CANT PROVE it was on when Meliodas took his arm.

You never proved anything, hence why the burden of still on you. Goodness you are dense.
Yeah, it can be both, but he stated by how his power could destroy his body, that is why he was really surprised lol.

Yes, I can lol, he wouldn't be that surprised if it was off but he did.
Not to mention that like I said, the burden of proof is on you since most of the time, it was turn on and he had all the time in the world to switch it on again.

You are the dense one honestly.
 

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Yeah, it can be both, but he stated by how his power could destroy his body, that is why he was really surprised lol.

Yes, I can lol, he wouldn't be that surprised if it was off but he did.
Not to mention that like I said, the burden of proof is on you since most of the time, it was turn on and he had all the time in the world to switch it on again.

You are the dense one honestly.
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No, you have to prove he was shocked because he arm got taken off, It could be either but you made the statement, you have to show he was shocked because he lost his arm.

You haven't proved that the Ruler was on when he lost his arm, in fact, you can't prove it was on.

No, I clearly pointed out the reason he could have been surprised was because he never expected Melidoas to active his innate ability.

No, the burden is still on you. You made the claim and you haven't proved it, saying it was on because it's on most of the time isn't solid evidence since we see him turn it off right before. You have failed to prove he turned it back on.

You've lost this argument and are only continuing because you're stubborn. You lost this argument because you act like it was confirmed Meliodas overpowered the Ruler, while there's no concrete evidence or strong implications to support that. Me, on the other hand, I'm simply saying you can't prove that the Ruler was activated when that happened because there's nothing showing that. I'm not saying it definitely was active but I'm not saying it wasn't either, you know why? Because the manga was ambiguous about it, unlike you.
 
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