Games Mafia Game 70 - Fumetsu no Anata e - END GAME

[Seraph]

I understand where you're coming from, but this time I'm not playing petty games.
But I suppose that won't be enough to convinve you.
After all, it's true that the only way I can prove my role is to die.
Same old story.
Either way those two kills hurt....

The Blessing and the Curse that comes with being you am i right?

Currently i wouldn't feel like lynching you,for that you're too faint a voice in the Game for me. Care to share some of your views on players and flow of the game so far?

 

[syx]

Don't be so defensive dude, i only wanted to hear from you. I didn't understand why everyone was so suspicious of you, and despite Lambu telling me some reasons in the night pad, i wanted to make my own opinion, hence why i @'ed you.

Ahh no, my post was not directed to you, even though I quoted you. It's a misunderstanding. I'm annoyed by the people going for me for lousy reasons.

 

[Zasz]

The Blessing and the Curse that comes with being you am i right?

Currently i wouldn't feel like lynching you,for that you're too faint a voice in the Game for me. Care to share some of your views on players and flow of the game so far?

Nietz doesn't convince me if that's what you want to know.
Also Lambu is there.
Besides there are many faint voices who are refusing to share their own partners.
Either way, the flow right now is slow, very slow, at least for me.
I think I can trust Gry and DD.
Oh yes, we whould really start ratting out the other Mafia if we don't want to beerased.

 

[Seraph]

Nietz doesn't convince me if that's what you want to know.
Also Lambu is there.
Besides there are many faint voices who are refusing to share their own partners.
Either way, the flow right now is slow, very slow, at least for me.
I think I can trust Gry and DD.
Oh yes, we whould really start ratting out the other Mafia if we don't want to beerased.

Hmm,why Lambu?

I'll keep backreading here and there,look for things that don't add up for me. If i dont notice some change soon i'll use my Secret Technique and bring some heat into the game.

 

[Belserion]

Yeah i got a plan and due to the Assassin still being around i can't really roll the way i want to right now,but if you claim to be Town then i need something/anything that can make me trust you. Share your views on the current flow of the Game with me for example,give a hint to your Role,or is your Partner still alive or dead? Did you trust him/her etc.

I can't make you trust me. I definitely don't trust you but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I won't give any more hints to my role because it's for my own protection. Some of us work better from the shadows, something some people here don't seem to get. If you look at Erin's list, and yes we all in some way depend on the list for certain things, you'll see that the hints are all basically the same, so this "tell us your role" tantrum doesn't make sense since the people asking, including you, haven't exactly been illuminating. I feel like I have this argument every game with the same people. If it's not Gryff, it's Gry, two players I wouldn't trust if the hosts themselves came right out and declared them super townies. It's boring now.

No my partner isn't alive. As for trusting them, it was 50/50 because they had an active role and I figured time would tell. I was more inclined to trust them though.

 

[GrySun]

And @GrySun "Seraph is Seraph"

Doesn‘t mean anything bad, just you being yourself

Ahh no, my post was not directed to you, even though I quoted you. It's a misunderstanding. I'm annoyed by the people going for me for lousy reasons.

How lousy is the reason that both assassin kills seem to be connected to you? Demon‘s death seemed rather random but he tried getting people to vote for you. DD was a Det the other mafia groups would deal with, not something the solo Assassin(if he is solo) would care about unless he happens to have targetted him.

Are you the Assassin syx?

 

[Nietz]

Doesn‘t mean anything bad, just you being yourself

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saying Seraph is Seraph is just a wierd explaintion for a new one.... ist just show he is randomly nothing or everything .... ....shall I say Nietz is just Nietz or an Nietzschean, which has nothing to do with or for this game....

 

[GrySun]

• Townie-Erin gets mad when you suspect her, Mafia-Erin just disappears and waits for things to cool down. Like how she‘s been doing here.
• Taku may just be lying with how he didn‘t protect the Detective, I se no reason not to. Is the best way for Martyr to confirm himself by doing what his role should do.
• Zasz is VT or an extremely cocky mafia, former much more likely.
• Seraph and Lambu at least try to play the game so will give them a pass for as long as the non-players are being useless and still alive.
• Bel is either mafia or bad, either way impossible to play with her much.
• syx is most logical Assassin out of all players, but hasn‘t been here much nor has said who he trusts and who not. Almost like a third party wanting to not get on anyone‘s bad side.
• Daws I have no idea. Went hard for DD so got no reason to trust him.
• Marmalade gives some insights which is at least better than the other similar players have done, whether that makes her mafia or not I don‘t know but won‘t be suspecting her til the others are dealt with.
• Kato barely plays as well, but claimed a Bodyguard who couldn‘t save anyone yet. Don‘t even know his targets. Could be legit or not.
• Nietz is playing like a beginner, and never says much about herself as well.
• Brandish I forgot he was playing.

That‘s about the conclusive thoughts I have for this day. Will most likely lock either syx or Erin.

 

[syx]

How lousy is the reason that both assassin kills seem to be connected to you?

I'm referring to your post before any of them were killed.

I found syx‘s words and posts very strange last day, similar to desin‘s posts. But sax was even stranger. But I don‘t trust Demon at all whatsoever, he‘s probably partnered with James which is why he‘s hiding it. My guess is both are mafias of different teams.

That was a lousy reasoning. Lousy as its best. My reasons were legit. Deny it as much as you want. I was wrong, shit happens.

You don't have to tell me that my current situation looks bad as hell. I already said it myself. No need for you to repeat it.

Are you the Assassin syx?

I don't see your vote. What are you waiting for?

 

[GrySun]

Is one of those funny games where if everyone claimed their roles it‘d be an easy town win, but people being very selfish Curious which mafia color ends up winning this.

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I'm referring to your post before any of them were killed.

That was a lousy reasoning. Lousy as its best. My reasons were legit. Deny it as much as you want. I was wrong, shit happens.

You don't have to tell me that my current situation looks bad as hell. I already said it myself. No need for you to repeat it.


I don't see your vote. What are you waiting for?

I know, didn‘t bother replying to that since it‘s a matter of opinion. I found desin‘s posts weird and he was mafia, your posts were similarly weird as his were. But your current situation is very interesting indeed.

Waiting to see more of what you have to say. Frankly expecting more of townie-syx than to ask people to lynch him while refusing to say more of himself that could help. And your reasoning for not sharing partner is even more disappointing. Doing the opposite of what I do? So if I asked for people not to share it nor reveal anything you would‘ve? Meh...

You or Erin will get a last vote from me, now what the other players do I can‘t influence so leave it to chance

 

[Seraph]

I can't make you trust me. I definitely don't trust you...

...but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

I won't give any more hints to my role because it's for my own protection. Some of us work better from the shadows, something some people here don't seem to get. If you look at Erin's list, and yes we all in some way depend on the list for certain things, you'll see that the hints are all basically the same, so this "tell us your role" tantrum doesn't make sense since the people asking, including you, haven't exactly been illuminating. I feel like I have this argument every game with the same people. If it's not Gryff, it's Gry, two players I wouldn't trust if the hosts themselves came right out and declared them super townies. It's boring now.

No my partner isn't alive. As for trusting them, it was 50/50 because they had an active role and I figured time would tell. I was more inclined to trust them though.

Thanks a lot for sharing this much,you just climbed from "Mafia" to "Neutral" on my List just for this. You have your reason for playing this way then,i'll expect you to give us something worth working with when the time comes.

I'll bring some light into the dark now,at least on me for now. If the Mafia goes for a kill at night with me as their target i won't go out by myself.

I'm just guessing now but was your Partner James?

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As for why i feel like trusting Gry and Lambu,it's connected to my Partner's results and our Discussion at Night. As well as their behaviour and effort put into this game.

 

[syx]

I know, didn‘t bother replying to that since it‘s a matter of opinion. I found desin‘s posts weird and he was mafia, your posts were similarly weird as his were. But your current situation is very interesting indeed.

You always say weird this and weird that. What was so weird to go for someone who claimed Det before he got lynched, investigated someone who didn't went for him D1 and coincidentally got blocked N1? Literally nothing.

But okay... you mentioning two times to shoot someone is ignored for whatever reason.

Waiting to see more of what you have to say. Frankly expecting more of townie-syx than to ask people to lynch him while refusing to say more of himself that could help.

Stop repeating what I've already said.

What are your expectations? Like seriously, please tell me.

And your reasoning for not sharing partner is even more disappointing. Doing the opposite of what I do? So if I asked for people not to share it nor reveal anything you would‘ve? Meh...

Let's not kid ourselves and exaggerate. You know very well how I think about you. I will be as careful as possible when it comes to you.

 

[Seraph]

saying Seraph is Seraph is just a wierd explaintion for a new one.... ist just show he is randomly nothing or everything .... ....shall I say Nietz is just Nietz or an Nietzschean, which has nothing to do with or for this game....

Considering that i am supposed to just show something "randomly" or "nothing" i've been doing a far too good a job,excuse me Ma'am Still waiting for that Reply where you confirm wether you're Spy or Detective to me. Feels strange that you overlooked that out of all posts.

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Of whom i'd like to hear more today,or at least before the Phase is over would be @Brandish and @MarmaladeSky as well as @Kato756 when he finds the time. I saw him lurking the Thread earlier,would love to hear some of his targets,he claimed Bodyguard.

Brandish i haven't questioned about his views on everything yet,would like to hear them. Possibly suspicions etc. you know the drill.

Marma,i am already sorry for it ,but i saw in Erin's List(I know i know ) That you have a passive but charming role. Mind going more into detail on it?

 

[Lambu]

Rip dd, I cant believe it actually happened even if it was obvious.

Dont feelsbad me now Taku, I want the divorce.

Like, you had one job, just one, and it was to mark the det so he gets to survive one more night. You knew it and let it go, no townie would do that, ever.

So the only reason Im not locking you is because theres a fair share of people that should go too.

Considering that i am supposed to just show something "randomly" or "nothing" i've been doing a far too good a job,excuse me Ma'am Still waiting for that Reply where you confirm wether you're Spy or Detective to me. Feels strange that you overlooked that out of all posts.

Will never understand why shes holding it so much, and now that the assassin killed it makes no sense that she holds it, theres at least a bg out there to cover her in the night.

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@syx your reasonings werent flawed, but were far too easy, when you are town you somehow try to do your best and not make a mistake, contrasting information and accusations. This time around you simply fell for the easy road and let things happen, if theres irl reasons for that playstyle then Im sorry, but you cannot say you are being suspected over silly things.

And your reasoning to not follow the pairing reveal is nonsense, dont even try to deny it.

 

[syx]

syx is most logical Assassin out of all players, but hasn‘t been here much nor has said who he trusts and who not. Almost like a third party wanting to not get on anyone‘s bad side.

You seriously want my record?

I've been so bad at this, it's not even funny:

- I went for DD (reason already given) -> turns out town
- I thought Tux is Mafia (I thought he would be more active as town) -> turns out town
- when Demon went for me, I thought it's a Mafia play -> turns out Demon is town

Yeah, I'm super good at judging MG players...

I have no opinion about Bel. She is - what we call in german - a dry player. Whenever I think about her, my mind turns blank. She is very consistent in her behaviour, like an old one-dimensional robot. Have no idea what to think about her.

Brandish -> votekilled me after Demon went against me, just because. Demon got killed. DD results shows guilty on me, Brandish votekills me, DD votekills me, DD gets killed. I'm inclined to believe he could be the Assassin.

GrySun -> It's a meme I know, but still... it's D3 and he is still alive. Mentioned two times to shoot Demon. Could have been a hidden message or a good Mafia play, I'm not sure. Went for Juviii, but that was D1, dunno if it's worth anything or not. Part of me thinks Town, other part of me thinks Mafia, maybe also a possible Assassin.

Kato -> is he actually playing?

Lambu -> talks too much, as if he was trying to take control of everything. Also went for Juviii (saw a chance and took it?) D1, but as I said before... it was D1. Went for me D2 when Demonspeed made the first move (again, saw a chance and took it?) -> inclined to believe he is Mafia.

MarmaladeSky -> jumped on Demonspeeds train without saying anything. Since I'm town, it's obvious I suspect her.

Nietz -> No idea. Thought she is TP Lovers, because she used the word "lovers" in one of her earlier posts which made me think that she unknowingly "quoted" her pm. But no idea, really

Seraph -> Dunno why he hid the fact that Gryff lied about them being partners. But it's nothing new of him. Can't judge.

SonOfDaws -> no idea

Takuan -> claimed Martyr and got penalty vote...

Zasz -> probably town, but also Zasz

 

[Takuan]

Dont feelsbad me now Taku, I want the divorce.

Like, you had one job, just one, and it was to mark the det so he gets to survive one more night. You knew it and let it go, no townie would do that, ever.

So the only reason Im not locking you is because theres a fair share of people that should go too.

Even if i had saved him, i would have sacrificed and he would have died next day anyway. Without knowing his sanity. My one job is to sacrifice for the town, and i'm sorry, i didn't feel it was the time with dd.
You can lock me all you want though, i've been saying how much i dislike my role and how much i wanted not to use it. If i use it i die, if i don't i get lynched? I'd rather stay in the game for as long as i can, and sorry if that displeases you.
You can't even pretend that you're shocked that i didn't use my role, when i've been saying it in the night pad the whole time.
It's sad that we lost our det, but i won't feel sad about not using my role today. I might start using my role next day, but i didn't today and i don't feel ashamed.

 

[Lambu]

@Nietz please, for gods sake, share your results if you have some. You wont die at night, not you at least, trust me in this one. What role do you have and which results did you get.

I wont ask again, Im tired already.

 

[Seraph]

Will never understand why shes holding it so much, and now that the assassin killed it makes no sense that she holds it, theres at least a bg out there to cover her in the night.

I'll be honest with you,i don't trust her. At all. She's a Mafia,newbie or not. It's been awhile since i questioned her about this "reveal" that she tried and made believe,i still haven't heard anything. Neither have any of you guys. My Vote is still on her,the game hasn't made big steps either. Will most likely remain on her.

She seems to hint at an investigating Role,as she "observes" other Players etc. and even as Town is in an desperate hour she isn't sharing any results or targets...i mean...come on.

As for our claimed Bodyguard,given his activity(I understand,i saw the Pictures and heard the circumstances around him and i'm sorry to hear about it,hope he's good and well!) i doubt he has made any Night Actions so far. We know for Day 1 for certain,he had Penalties the next day. He had to be called by the Hosts to prevent being hostkilled. So if he really is Town then he simply hasn't been able to do us a favor yet.

 

[syx]

@syx your reasonings werent flawed, but were far too easy, when you are town you somehow try to do your best and not make a mistake, contrasting information and accusations. This time around you simply fell for the easy road and let things happen, if theres irl reasons for that playstyle then Im sorry, but you cannot say you are being suspected over silly things.

I said I'm being suspected because of lousy reasonings, and they are - in fact - lousy. I never said there are no reasons to suspect me (because there are, like me not giving a single hint about me in D1 and D2 -> now, that is a reason I can reason with, but not because when people say my posts were weird)

And by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was rather quite when I was still around. Nothing much happened, I didn't have much at hand and had to leave, hence I voted dd rather early. He was the most logical choice for me.

And your reasoning to not follow the pairing reveal is nonsense, dont even try to deny it.

It might look like nonsense for, but I repeat again: I have - in general - a hard time to trust anyone in MG. It's my nature. GrySun being (let me be humble) one of the better players out there gives me all the reason to doubt everything he says regardless how logical they are. It's not because I think Gry is definitely Mafia, it's because I'm afraid that he might be. You don't have to like that side of mine, I can understand, but I can't change my mind, sorry.

 

[Lambu]

Even if i had saved him, i would have sacrificed and he would have died next day anyway. Without knowing his sanity. My one job is to sacrifice for the town, and i'm sorry, i didn't feel it was the time with dd.
You can lock me all you want though, i've been saying how much i dislike my role and how much i wanted not to use it. If i use it i die, if i don't i get lynched? I'd rather stay in the game for as long as i can, and sorry if that displeases you.
You can't even pretend that you're shocked that i didn't use my role, when i've been saying it in the night pad the whole time.
It's sad that we lost our det, but i won't feel sad about not using my role today. I might start using my role next day, but i didn't today and i don't feel ashamed.

How can you say it would have been for naught? He was a det. Say we lynch syx now and he flips mafia, then we already know his sanity and first thing he does in d4 is disclose his result. Town would have got a massive advantage and lost it because you want to keep playing?

I dont know about you Taku but I want to win, everyone is playing for the sake of their allegiance. So if you are not then I would rather take you down, I dont care if you flip townie even, you are basically only helping mafia.

Are you lovers with the assassin?? Im running out of ideas to try make this damn puzzle.