Games Mafia Game 71 - Kingdom Hearts - END GAME

[Elusia]

Now, for the actions

Spoiler: Day and Night Results

DAY ONE ACTIONS
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Belserion votes for SonOfDaws
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> Lambu votes for GrySun >>> wins flip

NIGHT ONE ACTIONS

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> Organizized >>>> redirects onto Taku >>> win coin flip
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Organizized
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> Tux >>> loses coin flip >>> redirected>>>Taku >>> gets blocked by crescent
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no target

PRIORITY TWO
Demonspeed - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Haku>>> gets nothing
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Farfalla>>> magic redirects onto gnut >>> targeted MarmaladeSky
GrySun - Sane Doctor >>>>> protects Panda
desin24 - Insane Doctor >>>>> protects Demonspeed >>> loses coin flip >>> kills Demonspeed instead (rip)
Nietz - Bodyguard >>>> protects gnut >>> switches to Farfalla cuz of magic form
Reebi - Hider >>>>> no target
Lady pompom - Sane Apprentice >>>>> learns from James >>> 1/2 lessons learned for Mason role
gnut - Mafia Doctor >>>>> protected Marma

PRIORITY THREE
shinobi - Mason Recruiter >>>>> no target
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Panda >>> kill fail cuz of Grysun's protection
Takuan - Mafia Apprentice >>>> kills Gryffindor
Gryffindor - Serial Killer >>>>> kills Reebi

DAY TWO ACTIONS
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Farfalla votes for Takuan
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> Belserion votes for desin24 >>> loses flip >>> cannot target Belserion tonight

NIGHT TWO ACTIONS ACTIONSo

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> invite Seraph, Copy Panda, Tux >>> Tux gets blocked
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks desin24 >>> blocked by Orgz
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Crescent Jinx >>> wins flip
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no target

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Crescent Jinx >>> no target
GrySun - Sane Doctor >>>>> protects Lambu
desin24 - Insane Doctor >>>>> protect/kill Nietz >>> flip says: kill >>> flip with Juviii: won >>> Nietz dies
Nietz - Bodyguard >>>> no target
Lady pompom - Sane Apprentice >>>>> learns from James Rye >>> success and becomes Mason
gnut - Mafia Doctor >>>>> protects Juviii

PRIORITY THREE
shinobi - Mason Recruiter >>>>> recruits GrySun
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills desin24
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> no target

DAY THREE ACTIONS:
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Seraph votes for Daws
Farfalla - Badass Cowboy >>>>> challenges ES to a duel >>>>> wins a coin flip
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> DigitalDude votes for gnut >>>win coin flip

DAY FOUR ACTIONS:
None

NIGHT FOUR ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> invites James Rye, Lady pompom and GrySun >>> blocked James Rye (redirected onto revo but power form)
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks digitaldude >>> Magic redirect onto SonOfDaws
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Hakuteiken
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no action

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on digitaldude >>> Magic redirect onto SonOfDaws >>> no result
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Panda with no janitor power>>> magic redirect onto Lady pompom

DAY FIVE ACTIONS:
Lambu - Politician >>>>> makes Copy Panda vote for Hakuteiken
Copy Panda - Badass Cowboy >>>>> challenges Organizized to a duel >>>>> loses a coin flip and dies (rip)

NIGHT FIVE ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Organizized
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> random block on Juviii >>> blocked by Cres (smfh)
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no action

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Hakuteiken >>> no action
GrySun - Mason >>>>> Ultimate Form Doctor action >>> protect Farfy
James Rye - Mason >>>>> Ultimate Form Doctor action >>> protect Farfy (these masons smh)

PRIORITY THREE
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills revo with no Janitor power >>> revo dies

DAY SIX ACTIONS
Farfalla - Badass Cowboy >>>>> Ultimate Form activated and challenges Haku to a duel >>> wins

NIGHT SIX ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Juviii randomly by ultimate >>> ignored by power form

PRIORITY TWO


PRIORITY THREE
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Lambu >>>> redirect by magic onto Grysun>>> redirected into Lambu again??? yep XD

In conclusion: never do swapped actions ever again

Thanks for playing everyone! Hope you all enjoyed it!

 

[Asako]

There's still the form used

Spoiler

Forms used NIGHT ONE:

Seraph - use guardian form
Farfalla - use magic form on Greg
Nietz - use guardian form
GrySun - use guardian form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Copy Panda - use guardian form
Hakuteiken - use guardian form
Demonspeed - use power form
Lambu - use guardian form
SonOfDaws -
Gryffindor - use guardian form
gnut - use power form
Tux -
Belserion - use magic form on lambu
Takuan - use power form
Juviii - use power form
digitaldude -
James Rye -
revo -
shinobi - use guardian form
MarmaladeSky - use power form?
Organizized - use guardian form
Lady pompom - use guardian form
desin24 - use guardian form
Emperor Spriggan - use guardian form
Reebi -

Forms used NIGHT TWO:

digitaldude - use guardian form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Organizized - use speed form
revo - use power form
GrySun - use guardian form
desin24 - use guardian form
Nietz - no form
Lady pompom - use power form
Farfalla - use magic form on revo
Copy Panda - use magic form on MarmaladeSky
Lambu - use guardian form
Belserion - use magic form on MarmaladeSky
Seraph - use magic form on Emperor Spriggan
Tux - use RAGE form
SonOfDaws
James Rye - use guardian form
shinobi - use speed form

Juviii - use power form
gnut - use power form
MarmaladeSky - use guardian form

Emperor Spriggan - use guardian form
Hakuteiken - use guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FOUR:

digitaldude - use speed form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Organizized - use guardian form
revo - use power form
GrySun - use guardian form
Lady pompom - use magic form on Emperor Spriggan
Farfalla - use magic form on Hakuteiken
Copy Panda - use magic form on Lady pompom
Lambu - use guardian form
Seraph - use RAGE form
SonOfDaws - use magic form on digitaldude
James Rye - use magic form on revo

Juviii - use power form

Hakuteiken - use guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FIVE:

Crescent Jinx - use Guardian form
Organizized - use U L T I M A T E F O R M
revo - use speed form
GrySun - use ULTIMATE form

Farfalla - use ULTIMATE form
Lambu - use ULTIMATE form
SonOfDaws - use Magic form on James Rye
James Rye - use ULTIMATE form

Juviii - use ULTIMATE form

Hakuteiken - use Guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FIVE:

Crescent Jinx - use ULTIMATE
GrySun - use magic on lambu
Farfalla - use magic on James Rye
Lambu - use magic on grysun
SonOfDaws - Use ULTIMATE on juviii
James Rye - use magic on farfalla

Juviii - use power form

 

[Seraph]

So, basically, passive roles that need a trigger get an "ultimate trigger" that amplifies their reaction past day 5? Is that how this seems to work?

From what i could gather from my PM,my Ability would work even if it was triggered today.

 

[GrySun]

My special ability is definitely not worth Rage Forming over, unless I feel like ragequitting/suiciding for the sake of it.

 

[SonOfDaws]

The forms remind me of Deoxys.

The system feels kinda pointless from first read, since mafia killers will always use power form, townies will always use either guardian or power if they suspect being blocked. A killer using power form and target using guardian form cancel each other out, basically coming back to how it normally works.

Feels like a placebo of sorts, making killers feel more safe with killing, and townies feel more safe with staying alive, when it actually doesn‘t do anything.

Only thing that could be relevant is mind games, like the killer using guardian too while expecting his target to not have guardian on, but that‘s high risk with low reward, ie. a bad idea most of the time.
But if townies opt for power/speed instead of guardian then even prostitutes/doctors targeting the right person won‘t be able to prevent a kill because of killers with power form.

TL-DR Always use guardian or all prostitutes/doctors become useless, or if you feel confident you‘re not being killed then do power. Speed is useless. The magic form is unreliable, and even a Bulletproof using that will die to a power form killer, so it‘s largely pointless.

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What do you mean with that, being aware?

Quack, Quack.
(I can think of a couple roles that could make use of magic form, deathrattle roles in particular. Guardian is without a doubt the default though.)

 

[GrySun]

So, basically, passive roles that need a trigger get an "ultimate trigger" that amplifies their reaction past day 5? Is that how this seems to work?

If that‘s true then those people would basically be confirmed townies, since mafias can‘t know it works like that. Specifically Seraph.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 29, 2019, Original Post Date: Mar 29, 2019 ---

Quack, Quack.
(I can think of a couple roles that could make use of magic form, deathrattle roles in particular. Guardian is without a doubt the default though.)

What‘s a deathrattle role? Magic has some use yes, more than Speed I‘d say, but the problem is that magic is highly unpredictable and could screw up more than had you not. Depends on luck and other people‘s actions I suppose.

 

[Hakuteiken]

If that‘s true then those people would basically be confirmed townies, since mafias can‘t know it works like that. Specifically Seraph.

Is it because the mafia don't have passive roles you mean?

 

[GrySun]

Is it because the mafia don't have passive roles you mean?

Because no passive mafia roles happen when someone targets them similar to Vengeful Townie, Witch, PGO etc. Maybe Mafia Bomb? But idk how that would work.

 

[Elusia]

Just so to be clear to everyone in this game: Special Abilities are the result of the player's Ultimate/Rage Forms.

Okay, read the rules, haven't read the thread yet. I have to ask the hosts @Asako @Elusia @Vandred :

When you say "Roles with a night action and non-townie roles can choose from" it means active townie roles and Mafia/3rd Party roles and when it says "Roles without a night action can choose from" it means ONLY townies with no night action can chose those options, right?
Because if Mafia has access to the "Magic Form" then that is gg for townie because no matter what all det actions will fail to get a clear result as they would have to know who their target targeted to switch places with. So I really hope I am getting this right and Mafia has no access to that form.

The roles without any night actions can apply to every passive roles.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Because no passive mafia roles happen when someone targets them similar to Vengeful Townie, Witch, PGO etc. Mafia Mafia Bomb? But idk how that would work.

Checking out the roles list to refresh some memory, only Burden seems like a passive role for Mafia side to me.

Anyways, my initial assessment is out of the window, since Seraph specified his ability is not working the way an ultimate does, as in day 5 and onwards timewise.

 

[Lady pompom]

That moment you are catching up and a wild page appears 8'D

Well, about the mechanics, I've thought it to be very straightforward, but reading again today, that Magic form seems like a bet and could be both very benefitial or just mess up det/doc/prost actions.

As for my hint...

I'm hungry

 

[Organizized]

Ugh people complaining it’s not active enough, meanwhile I’m trying to keep up on my phone and failing.. Quick scan through the thread and I’m wary of Seraph, Jinx and a little bit Nietz (but for similar reasons I was suspicious of Asako at first, before I got used to the way she wrote and played so maybe I shouldn’t read too much into that). Some others as well, but I need to read the thread more carefully before going around accusing anyone for real.

Also, Farf doesn’t give me as much of a scum-vibe as usual... but usually when she does, she’s Town...

Hint: I’m almost 100% sure (not at my laptop where I have all the data) that I never had this role before, despite it being far from new, so I’m not really well versed on the best strats for it.. but I’ll give it my best, or my slightly-afk-best.

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That moment you are catching up and a wild page appears 8'D

Tell me about it!

 

[Seraph]

As for my hint...

I'm hungry

I could sue for Copyright infringement.

 

[GrySun]

Lmao Seraph you sure made a very memorable hint back then

 

[Seraph]

I sure did,i think next to "I have a Plan/Strategy" it might be my No.1 Meme. I am hungry too btw. for a Town Victory.

 

[Nietz]

I’m wary of Seraph, Jinx and a little bit Nietz

To my role again and bc people think it is similar, it isn't... maybe my talking, but I have a completely different situation... my hints again are I am active, I never have played the role before and I can be important for a certain situation or even person...

I am kind of suspecious to @Crescent Jinx ... sry girl, but you wanted a hint of my role, I wanted a hint from you, but you didn't tell anything yet?!

 

[Crescent Jinx]

That moment you are catching up and a wild page appears 8'D

Well, about the mechanics, I've thought it to be very straightforward, but reading again today, that Magic form seems like a bet and could be both very benefitial or just mess up det/doc/prost actions.

As for my hint...

I'm hungry

Prostitute?

I think I asked that last time to Seraph too.

If I’m ever prostitute going to say “I’m Thirsty.”

 

[Seraph]

To my role again and bc people think it is similar, it isn't... maybe my talking, but I have a completely different situation... my hints again are I am active, I never have played the role before and I can be important for a certain situation or even person...

I am kind of suspecious to @Crescent Jinx ... sry girl, but you wanted a hint of my role, I wanted a hint from you, but you didn't tell anything yet?!

Sounds like Doctor or Bodyguard to me at first,could also be Spy or Detective for all i know. Wasn't Spy the role you claimed last time as well?

 

[Crescent Jinx]

To my role again and bc people think it is similar, it isn't... maybe my talking, but I have a completely different situation... my hints again are I am active, I never have played the role before and I can be important for a certain situation or even person...

I am kind of suspecious to @Crescent Jinx ... sry girl, but you wanted a hint of my role, I wanted a hint from you, but you didn't tell anything yet?!

I gave 3-4 hints?

 

[Hermit]

Ok, here finally.
I know nothing about the game or characters.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

And Farfalla evening remarked I was the first person to hint. Casting shade Nietz?

 

[Farfalla]

@Elusia @Asako @Vandred
Can specially abilities be passive?

I'm sry but the way the rule was written I see 0 space for that to the be the case.

It's not like I rly suspect Seraph but I'm a bit surprised to be the only one to feel that way about this situation so I wanna be sure if we can count on surprises regarding that ultimate rule.