Games Mafia Game 71 - Kingdom Hearts - END GAME

[Elusia]

Now, for the actions

Spoiler: Day and Night Results

DAY ONE ACTIONS
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Belserion votes for SonOfDaws
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> Lambu votes for GrySun >>> wins flip

NIGHT ONE ACTIONS

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> Organizized >>>> redirects onto Taku >>> win coin flip
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Organizized
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> Tux >>> loses coin flip >>> redirected>>>Taku >>> gets blocked by crescent
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no target

PRIORITY TWO
Demonspeed - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Haku>>> gets nothing
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Farfalla>>> magic redirects onto gnut >>> targeted MarmaladeSky
GrySun - Sane Doctor >>>>> protects Panda
desin24 - Insane Doctor >>>>> protects Demonspeed >>> loses coin flip >>> kills Demonspeed instead (rip)
Nietz - Bodyguard >>>> protects gnut >>> switches to Farfalla cuz of magic form
Reebi - Hider >>>>> no target
Lady pompom - Sane Apprentice >>>>> learns from James >>> 1/2 lessons learned for Mason role
gnut - Mafia Doctor >>>>> protected Marma

PRIORITY THREE
shinobi - Mason Recruiter >>>>> no target
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Panda >>> kill fail cuz of Grysun's protection
Takuan - Mafia Apprentice >>>> kills Gryffindor
Gryffindor - Serial Killer >>>>> kills Reebi

DAY TWO ACTIONS
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Farfalla votes for Takuan
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> Belserion votes for desin24 >>> loses flip >>> cannot target Belserion tonight

NIGHT TWO ACTIONS ACTIONSo

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> invite Seraph, Copy Panda, Tux >>> Tux gets blocked
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks desin24 >>> blocked by Orgz
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Crescent Jinx >>> wins flip
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no target

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Crescent Jinx >>> no target
GrySun - Sane Doctor >>>>> protects Lambu
desin24 - Insane Doctor >>>>> protect/kill Nietz >>> flip says: kill >>> flip with Juviii: won >>> Nietz dies
Nietz - Bodyguard >>>> no target
Lady pompom - Sane Apprentice >>>>> learns from James Rye >>> success and becomes Mason
gnut - Mafia Doctor >>>>> protects Juviii

PRIORITY THREE
shinobi - Mason Recruiter >>>>> recruits GrySun
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills desin24
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> no target

DAY THREE ACTIONS:
Lambu - Politician >>>>> Seraph votes for Daws
Farfalla - Badass Cowboy >>>>> challenges ES to a duel >>>>> wins a coin flip
Emperor Spriggan - Mafia Gambler >>>>> DigitalDude votes for gnut >>>win coin flip

DAY FOUR ACTIONS:
None

NIGHT FOUR ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
digitaldude - Barkeeper >>>>> invites James Rye, Lady pompom and GrySun >>> blocked James Rye (redirected onto revo but power form)
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks digitaldude >>> Magic redirect onto SonOfDaws
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Hakuteiken
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no action

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on digitaldude >>> Magic redirect onto SonOfDaws >>> no result
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Panda with no janitor power>>> magic redirect onto Lady pompom

DAY FIVE ACTIONS:
Lambu - Politician >>>>> makes Copy Panda vote for Hakuteiken
Copy Panda - Badass Cowboy >>>>> challenges Organizized to a duel >>>>> loses a coin flip and dies (rip)

NIGHT FIVE ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Organizized
Organizized - Prostitute >>>>> random block on Juviii >>> blocked by Cres (smfh)
Hakuteiken - Mafia Escort >>>>> no action

PRIORITY TWO
revo - Sane Spy >>>>> spies on Hakuteiken >>> no action
GrySun - Mason >>>>> Ultimate Form Doctor action >>> protect Farfy
James Rye - Mason >>>>> Ultimate Form Doctor action >>> protect Farfy (these masons smh)

PRIORITY THREE
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills revo with no Janitor power >>> revo dies

DAY SIX ACTIONS
Farfalla - Badass Cowboy >>>>> Ultimate Form activated and challenges Haku to a duel >>> wins

NIGHT SIX ACTIONS:

PRIORITY ONE
Crescent Jinx - Prostitute >>>>> blocks Juviii randomly by ultimate >>> ignored by power form

PRIORITY TWO


PRIORITY THREE
Juviii - Mafia Janitor >>>>> kills Lambu >>>> redirect by magic onto Grysun>>> redirected into Lambu again??? yep XD

In conclusion: never do swapped actions ever again

Thanks for playing everyone! Hope you all enjoyed it!

 

[Asako]

There's still the form used

Spoiler

Forms used NIGHT ONE:

Seraph - use guardian form
Farfalla - use magic form on Greg
Nietz - use guardian form
GrySun - use guardian form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Copy Panda - use guardian form
Hakuteiken - use guardian form
Demonspeed - use power form
Lambu - use guardian form
SonOfDaws -
Gryffindor - use guardian form
gnut - use power form
Tux -
Belserion - use magic form on lambu
Takuan - use power form
Juviii - use power form
digitaldude -
James Rye -
revo -
shinobi - use guardian form
MarmaladeSky - use power form?
Organizized - use guardian form
Lady pompom - use guardian form
desin24 - use guardian form
Emperor Spriggan - use guardian form
Reebi -

Forms used NIGHT TWO:

digitaldude - use guardian form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Organizized - use speed form
revo - use power form
GrySun - use guardian form
desin24 - use guardian form
Nietz - no form
Lady pompom - use power form
Farfalla - use magic form on revo
Copy Panda - use magic form on MarmaladeSky
Lambu - use guardian form
Belserion - use magic form on MarmaladeSky
Seraph - use magic form on Emperor Spriggan
Tux - use RAGE form
SonOfDaws
James Rye - use guardian form
shinobi - use speed form

Juviii - use power form
gnut - use power form
MarmaladeSky - use guardian form

Emperor Spriggan - use guardian form
Hakuteiken - use guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FOUR:

digitaldude - use speed form
Crescent Jinx - use speed form
Organizized - use guardian form
revo - use power form
GrySun - use guardian form
Lady pompom - use magic form on Emperor Spriggan
Farfalla - use magic form on Hakuteiken
Copy Panda - use magic form on Lady pompom
Lambu - use guardian form
Seraph - use RAGE form
SonOfDaws - use magic form on digitaldude
James Rye - use magic form on revo

Juviii - use power form

Hakuteiken - use guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FIVE:

Crescent Jinx - use Guardian form
Organizized - use U L T I M A T E F O R M
revo - use speed form
GrySun - use ULTIMATE form

Farfalla - use ULTIMATE form
Lambu - use ULTIMATE form
SonOfDaws - use Magic form on James Rye
James Rye - use ULTIMATE form

Juviii - use ULTIMATE form

Hakuteiken - use Guardian form

Forms used NIGHT FIVE:

Crescent Jinx - use ULTIMATE
GrySun - use magic on lambu
Farfalla - use magic on James Rye
Lambu - use magic on grysun
SonOfDaws - Use ULTIMATE on juviii
James Rye - use magic on farfalla

Juviii - use power form

 

[GrySun]

Btw. Guys would Daws as Jesus not be sort of OP? With that Special Ability,he could technically kill himself twice with Rageform and use that Marker on 2 Players.

Doesn‘t his one only work if he gets lynched? Rage form is more a must-death at day end, not a lynch.

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Trust me if I was Mentor I wouldn't attempt to recruit Gryff. That's not how this rivalry works

I don‘t know much about those rivalries apart from who smacktalks/smackvotes who. You and Juviii would be possible Mentors then, albeit Juviii more likely?

That said, if you were Mentor in this game who would you recruit as a helper? Just curious.

 

[Farfalla]

Was there a reason as to why? Assuming killers use Power form you‘d be dead regardless if you swap with someone, and it could kill greg if they tried killing you. But I guess more exciting that guardian for passives? Hm

Yeah. Since I didn't check my role PM before N1, I assumed mafia wouldn't gamble on killing me without knowing anything and that I didn't need protection overall. I also thought that Detectives might suspect me. Greg was super set on Seraph during the whole Day 1 and it was weird to see him voting for Daws in the end, instead of getting a third vote on his suspect (Daws didn't need that vote to die either). So I decided to see if I could redirect a detective to him, or even an unlikely kill. I also don't think he would be a kill target himself cause he barely participated y'day and there were a shit ton of active claims in game, looked safe to me to swap.

 

[GrySun]

Haha cute.

Moo.. My role allows me to use magic form, as well. Nothing else I could tell you right now

How does a passive role confirm itself easily? Innocent Kiiid?

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Here to spoonfeed everyone some information.
I'll make the layout better, assuming players are going to spill the beans about their forms on other days as well. But for now, I'll leave it like this because I am a lazy person.

I've got a passive role, added that to the list as well.
Updated list

@Seraph as Roxas I never had my Role before,I'm a Townie,my Role is passive and if i'm honest i'd have preferred another random Townie Role over this one because i won't be of much benefit to Town as in Reveals/Targets/Investigations.
I actually don't have an Ultimate Form,i was only given a Special Ability that will only be useful if my Role's Power activates. From what i could gather from my PM,my Ability would work even if it was triggered today. (D1)
I'm not the Lover and i used the Guardian Form tonight (N1).
if i go by my own Role and Ability they seem to compliment/enhance another.
@Demonspeed as Xigbar Town SuperMason (not recruited)My role is active. Not sure if I have had it before(apparently not) but I'll check more thoroughly later.
@Crescent Jinx as Xemnas On that note, I will start us off by hinting that never had the role but it was something that at least one host didn’t like when they had it, potentially another as well. I don’t particularly like it, but we will see how things work out.
I have a special ability. There’s no conditions for it. I just assumed that when it said in the opening post that the Ult form after N5...
@Nietz as Yen Sid my role ain't passive, and might be important in some cases.. I haven't played the role before... so I am still unfamiliar with it. it is active during Night and is helpful. Not lover, used Guardian Form (n1).
@Copy Panda as Young Xehanort My role is easily proven. I used Guardian Form. (N1)
@Farfalla as Goofy Ok so I used Magic on Greg this night. And that's also a hint about my role o/
@SonOfDaws as Donald Town
@MarmaladeSky as Namine I haven't had this role before. I've got a passive role.
@revo as Demyx To say something about my role, of the very few games I played, it's the first time I have this one and I'm actually happy with it. I have an active role, and i used Guardian tonight(N1). Also, i am not the lover.
I'm Townie this time, if you want more hints about my role this time, it's an active one and again, very useful.
@gnut as Saix I have had this role quite a few times and its quite old
@digitaldude as Larxene Claims barkeeper My hint for the day. I dont have any of the new roles. I DIDNT USE FORMS OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT (N1) Im a bar keeper and I redirected someone from either orgz, seraph or desin24
@Organizized as Ansem Seeker of Darkness Never had this role before, despite it being far from new, so I’m not really well versed on the best strats for it.. but I’ll give it my best, or my slightly-afk-best.
@Hakuteiken as Sora don't have an active role. Whether my role can be useful or not is rather debatable.
@desin24 as Kairi I have a role I have never had before
@Reebi as Mickey Spy
@Takuan as Terra I have an active role, and i used Guardian tonight. Also, i am not the lover.
@Tux as Luxord My role? Boring. Plain. Not fun at all.
@Gryffindor as Marluxia Serial Killer
@James Rye as Ventus I had this role before. This role might play a useful role in the game if all goes right.
@Juviii as Aqua
@Emperor Spriggan as Xion
@shinobi as Vexen for my role It might be useful in a way, that depends on how it's used.
@Belserion as Riku I've never had the role before.
@Lambu as Ienzo "My role is active, I never had it before (thank goodness Im not a doctor again). "
@GrySun as Axel My special ability is definitely not worth Rage Forming over, unless I feel like ragequitting/suiciding for the sake of it.
@Lady pompom as Vanitas I'm hungry

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@Juviii and @Emperor Spriggan Unless I missed it, you guys haven't said anything about yourselves yet. Can you share something with us?

I see several mistakes such as that Demon was Spy not Town, Reebi Hider not Spy..

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Or because I'm playing

Should we kill you and see whether he sticks around?

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No, magic form counters power form

How?

Funny. I placed trust on you both for the same reason. When Seraph shared his Special power that didn't fit the rule text at all, you were both fine with it. After Elusia endorsed Seraph's claim, I assumed it's cause you and Haku also have Specials unfitting with the text. And as you said it yourself, those are likely townies.

No mine fits my role, in a very boring way.

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Since Jinx invited me and I decided to join (because Pandaren did, hah), I'm just enjoying it as a change of pace. The games you have seen of me were mostly close to the the time I stopped playing altogether. If you roll it a few years back, you would see how much of a chatterbox I once was.

I always play to my own whims. Townie, Mafia, third party, as long as I get to set things on fire as a mastermind of sorts, that's my victory

I see Nice showing so far this game at least.

 

[Farfalla]

How does a passive role confirm itself easily? Innocent Kiiid?

You misunderstood the rule.

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How?

You transfer the kill o.o

 

[GrySun]

Yeah. Since I didn't check my role PM before N1, I assumed mafia wouldn't gamble on killing me without knowing anything and that I didn't need protection overall. I also thought that Detectives might suspect me. Greg was super set on Seraph during the whole Day 1 and it was weird to see him voting for Daws in the end, instead of getting a third vote on his suspect (Daws didn't need that vote to die either). So I decided to see if I could redirect a detective to him, or even an unlikely kill. I also don't think he would be a kill target himself cause he barely participated y'day and there were a shit ton of active claims in game, looked safe to me to swap.

Props on making it to not check your PM all day, I‘d be too curious not to. Other than that, I kinda see your reasoning behind using Magic but at the same time it‘s rather farfetched. But not that important.

That said, there exist no passive mafia roles, every mafia can kill. So shouldn‘t no mafia be able to use Magic?

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You misunderstood the rule.

The rule, or his hint? Because that was Panda‘s hint from D1.

You transfer the kill o.o

You don‘t prevent it though, so they still kill, unless you transfer to a mafia I guess, which should be unlikely.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

I take it it‘s one of the games where mass reveals would win us the game easy, but good luck getting people to do that

The SK lover is probably a mafia, since SK + townie is a handicap kinda. May be why that person isn‘t revealing, hoping for a Threesome?

Also, I still think there‘s a Mentor in the game. Probably what killed Gryffindor. So Mentor is likely Juviii/Bel.

Another possibility would be ES.

 

[GrySun]

Another possibility would be ES.

ES or Juviii would be my vote if hunting a Mentor then, but I‘d prefer a mafia

 

[Hakuteiken]

That said, there exist no passive mafia roles, every mafia can kill. So shouldn‘t no mafia be able to use Magic?

That wording tells me that a regular Mafia member should be able to use it, because the wording "Roles without a night action" seem to emphasize that way. I'm not 100% of this assessment, though. It's my interpretation.

 

[Marmalade]

I see several mistakes such as that Demon was Spy not Town, Reebi Hider not Spy..

Thank you for pointing that out! I'll defnitely be factchecking this more.

 

[GrySun]

Btw mafia‘s Rage form isn‘t a big drawback, so if they had some sweet powers like a Mafia Det targetting a bunch of people right away, then they‘d probably use it N1. So if they did they may have one or more unskilled mafias now but may have gotten big things in exchange.

My thoughts are that there‘s 1 big mafia, where one mafia is lover with the SK, and a Mentor. The Mentor either killed Gryff or recruited, the big mafia got Gryff or Demon+Reebi with luck, and SK failed or killed Demon+Reebi. Many possibilities but if the lover is a mafia that would basically confirm a big mafia team, and the Mentor.

That wording tells me that a regular Mafia member should be able to use it, because the wording "Roles without a night action" seem to emphasize that way. I'm not 100% of this assessment, though. It's my interpretation.

I mean yeah among mafias there are those with extra night powers, but none are really passive. Just the wording I guess, hosts probably let them use it too.

 

[Hermit]

@Emperor Spriggan I'm sorry for dragging you out of the shadows man but mind sharing anything about your Role or any suspects for this game? Perhaps something regarding your Ability,or which form you used tonight? I'll take anything to be honest. Having said that,HEY! First time we actually play together!

My role? Jinx practically hinted it for me on day one when she covered for me

Spoiler

That was a joke btw

 

[Juviii]

ES or Juviii would be my vote if hunting a Mentor then, but I‘d prefer a mafia

Everytime you talk to me in MGs you insult my intelligence, Gry. I would never try to recruit Gryffy if there was a chance I could kill him instead, moreso when I was actually suspicious of him this time, just a gut feeling tho but I knew it.

And you know what, if I'm ever mentor I will recruit you and either kill you on N1 or making you bear with me as a teammate. Perfect revenge, I'm telling you.

Edit: fixed typo.

 

[Farfalla]

That said, there exist no passive mafia roles, every mafia can kill. So shouldn‘t no mafia be able to use Magic?

I don't see why you're asking me that o.o you lost me.

 

[Organizized]

That wording tells me that a regular Mafia member should be able to use it, because the wording "Roles without a night action" seem to emphasize that way. I'm not 100% of this assessment, though. It's my interpretation.

I think Gry is right here. Otherwise, a Mafia member who uses Rage Form wouldn’t really get a proper “backfire”; they’d become Unskilled, but as a result be able to use Magic form instead. Their drawback of Rage Form is already much less painful than Townies’ one, so I think and hope that the ability to kill counts as having a night action.

We could always ask the hosts directly?

 

[Farfalla]

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The rule, or his hint? Because that was Panda‘s hint from D1.

The rule. It's not only passive people that can use magic and confirm himself.

 

[GrySun]

Everytime you talk to me in MGs you insult my intelligence, Gry. I would never try to recruit Gryffy if there was a chance I could kill him instead, moreso when I was actually suspicious of him this time, just a guy feeling tho but I knew it.

And you know what, if I'm ever mentor I will recruit you and either kill you on N1 or making you bear with me as a teammate. Perfect revenge, I'm telling you.

Why an intelligence insult, you and him seem like a decent team in terms of fun for you two, and Gryff himself isn‘t a bad person to have as a Mentee whatsoever. But sure go ahead.

 

[Farfalla]

You don‘t prevent it though, so they still kill, unless you transfer to a mafia I guess, which should be unlikely.

The whole point tho was that I suspect him.

 

[GrySun]

I don't see why you're asking me that o.o you lost me.

Would be something confirming you or other Magic users if mafias can‘t use it. But nvm that, probably a bad wording.

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Th

The rule. It's not only passive people that can use magic and confirm himself.

Ahhh so the dream is still alive

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I think Gry is right here. Otherwise, a Mafia member who uses Rage Form wouldn’t really get a proper “backfire”; they’d become Unskilled, but as a result be able to use Magic form instead. Their drawback of Rage Form is already much less painful than Townies’ one, so I think and hope that the ability to kill counts as having a night action.

We could always ask the hosts directly?

@Vandred @Elusia @Asako

 

[Hermit]

It's just a feeling but to Mafia and TP i'm usually a Wild Card due to my playstyle,they keep me around to bounce off me basically. In every game i always end up being suspect through one way or another,this one is no exception as we saw.

Then let me save you the trouble of being a play thing for the Mafia
!votekill Seraph
This discussion is going nowhere, so I'll place the first vote kill.
I didn't use those guardian form thingies whatever btw, my role isn't exactly super useful so there's that.

 

[Farfalla]

Would be something confirming you or other Magic users if mafias can‘t use it. But nvm that, probably a bad wording.

I mean, in spite of the point Haku raised about the simple mafia, let's say only townies can use it indeed. How do you confirm them? D: Could be a lie.