Discussion Gecko Moria Post Timeskip

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I got to thinking about Gecko Moria today.(I’ve been rewatching old arcs, just finished Thriller Bark.) Whenever Moria pulls shadows into himself he gets more and more disfigured. Kuma said, and I’m paraphrasing here, “Moria relies too much on others shadows, the don’t make him any stronger” and there have been comments, I think Jimbe, saying that his refusal to train has made him much weaker, and having others, his shadow or zombies, fight his battles for him has made him weak in 1 v 1 fight. I think if he were to expel every shadow from his body, other than his own, he would end up looking more or less normal. Still have the horns and teeth of course (Oda drew him as a child with them, but I don’t think he would be bloated and cartoonish. I think there are a number of shadows that he is able to keep in his body even if he is asleep or knocked unconscious. I think he would end up a very tall muscular awesome lookin dude, with waaay more dexterity and agility than his huge body-state. I hope Oda was alluding to that when the characters mentioned the shadows being a crutch. It would be pretty badass to see him come “out of the cold” and be stronger after getting over his “shadow addiction”. There is a bit of him younger, and more normal looking, at the Roger execution.
 

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I don't think Moriah carries shadows all the time, he's just fat.
 

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I don't think Moriah carries shadows all the time, he's just fat.

Yeah, that’s definitely possible, but I like the idea that he’s so “deformed” that the shadows might be the cause. Remember when he took in all of the shadows on Thriller Bark? How deformed and monstrous he got? And it was basically just an exaggeration of his already deformed self. The fact that he had a normal looking body, not pear shaped, makes me think that shadows may be the cause.
 

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Yeah, that’s definitely possible, but I like the idea that he’s so “deformed” that the shadows might be the cause. Remember when he took in all of the shadows on Thriller Bark? How deformed and monstrous he got? And it was basically just an exaggeration of his already deformed self. The fact that he had a normal looking body, not pear shaped, makes me think that shadows may be the cause.
The cause has been hinted to be a complet beatdown by Kaido, after which Moriah lost his spirit and his chin, and he became fat.
Being infused with Shadows only exaggaretes what feats one already has. Fat Moriah became even more fat, muscular Luffy became even more muscular.
Shadow's Asgard in Moriah's prime was quite likely a frightening ability with no real downsite whatsoever.
Kind of like G4 Moriah. Now I wanna see, it, damn.
 

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The cause has been hinted to be a complet beatdown by Kaido, after which Moriah lost his spirit and his chin, and he became fat.
Being infused with Shadows only exaggaretes what feats one already has. Fat Moriah became even more fat, muscular Luffy became even more muscular.
Shadow's Asgard in Moriah's prime was quite likely a frightening ability with no real downsite whatsoever.
Kind of like G4 Moriah. Now I wanna see, it, damn.
You’re probably right, but I hope you’re wrong! I wanna see Moria looking badass!
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Not sure if I posted it in this thread or not but I think I realized something! Eustass Kidd is either related to Moria or from the same island or something like that! He has similar features, I bet he has horns under those goggles he wears, and his ship has a sail that says “Thriller Bark” on it!
 

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and his ship has a sail that says “Thriller Bark” on it!
That ship belonged to Moria. We see the ship leave the island right before Kaido attacks.

Absolem's been as journalist Absa, and was even spotted in the reverie..



Notice the flash without a person....
 

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That ship belonged to Moria. We see the ship leave the island right before Kaido attacks.

Absolem's been as journalist Absa, and was even spotted in the reverie..



Notice the flash without a person....
Yeah, not long after I posted that I saw someone’s post on some website explaining the “little thriller bark” belonging to absolom, possibly Moria. I still suspect a connection though... he is wearing those goggles, Kid I mean, even as a child. I think they are hiding something...
 

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I dont see a connection between them....

But Moriah has a horror theme, and Kidd has a voodoo/shaman art like theme which perhaps could be a connection, but dont think so.....

Also, Kidd's from south blue.. While we dont know where Moriah if from, Thriller Bark itself is an island from West Blue, making him possibly from there....

Kidd is more likley to be connected to Shanks...
both have red hair
both are from south blue
both have their left arm missing...
both have a scar on their left side...
 

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I dont see a connection between them....

But Moriah has a horror theme, and Kidd has a voodoo/shaman art like theme which perhaps could be a connection, but dont think so.....

Also, Kidd's from south blue.. While we dont know where Moriah if from, Thriller Bark itself is an island from West Blue, making him possibly from there....

Kidd is more likley to be connected to Shanks...
both have red hair
both are from south blue
both have their left arm missing...
both have a scar on their left side...
Only issue there is Kid lost his right arm during a confrontation with shanks, not necessarily him personally though.
 

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Do you have a picture?
I could pull one up but it turns out it was either Absalom or Moriah's ship and I just misunderstood the panels. So yeah...my bad! :facepalm
 

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Here:

Middle panel shows a ship leaving the island with Thriller Bark. I believe its the same ship we saw after Thriller Bark arc
 
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