Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[supercow297]

2025 is when we'll really start to feel it, with the new big three of Jump.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Watching most shows is painful in a different way since they're so much slower than manga imo.

Because, after reading for enough time, the brain becomes adjusted to being able to alter speed while progressing, something not possible when watching a TV show or movie.

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Easily, that roster had so many great titles. Almost everything there made it to the best part of 5 years, excluding Assass Class, Isobe and the 4 fodder (Though WT is a special case I suppose), with a considerable amount making it to 6 too. So many classics. Crazy when we currently only have 3 (4) series over 5 years at the moment.

Now now, Soul Catchers may not have been a hit, but it still ran for two years, 11 volumes and broke 1 million in sales, so it was still success if nothing else.

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2025 is when we'll really start to feel it, with the new big three of Jump.

Cute joke including Yui in the background there.

 

[Mammo]

If Zumou's entering the climax, I feel like it's very possible that it'll end this year (there's only 3 fights to go after all plus in-between stuff and wrap up), and then maybe it'll be the Winter GIGA series with a 3 chapter epilogue in there.

It's definitely the sort of series I can picture having an extended epilogue, it'd feel wrong for it to end without showing Hinomaru becoming Yokozuna which can't just be done in a quick 1 or 2 weekly chapter epilogue. It'd need a good 2 monthly-length chapters for the full build up and fight I feel plus a chapter for the epilogue's epilogue.

or you know.....he could lose

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

First Jump cover with all characters from current running, with Luffy being the newbie.

Next issue had another cover with all current mcs of that age:

Tbh it surprises me Ryotsu being the main lead, and Kenshin being in second tier. I mean, Kenshin was the dominant title in the age post Dragon Ball and Slam Dunk and pre One Piece and Naruto.

You can also see in these two covers Giorno from JoJo 5, Yugi, Midori, Takeshi, my boy Taikobou (Hoshin Engi), NuBe, Hareluya (BOY), and...some titles that I recognize but ended in Psyren tier (Wild Half or Meiryotei Gotoseijuro for example)

 

[Mammo]

the crazier thing is beside OP there are Bastards, Kenshin, JoJo, are all still running

Hoshin Engi, Yugi, Midori, Nube only ended recently, and all might be back with more sequels who knows..

that's more titles still running than the cover from 5 years ago

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

the crazier thing is beside OP there are Bastards, Kenshin, JoJo, are all still running

Hoshin Engi, Yugi, Midori, Nube only ended recently, and all might be back with more sequels who knows..

that's more titles still running than the cover from 5 years ago

I'm now thinking in 80s too.

I mean, they got current sequels right now:
-Dragon Ball
-Saint Seiya
-Sakigake Otokojuku
-Captain Tsubasa
-Kinnikuman (more like continuation than sequel)
-Ginga Nagareboshi Gin (I'm not sure at all with this one)
-We can also count JoJo here

Hokuto no Ken and City Hunter had also sequels until recently if I'm not wrong (in City Hunter more like an alternative world aka Angel's Heart). Video Girl Ai had a mini-sequel too recently, didn't it?

From 70s, only things with sequels-continuations currently are Play Ball (currently we are getting serialized BOTH Play Ball 2 and Captain 2), and...that's all. Ring ni Kakero had the ''Part 2'' last decade, and I think Circuit no Okami had also a sequel, already ended.

 

[Ctkk]

Easily, that roster had so many great titles. Almost everything there made it to the best part of 5 years, excluding Assass Class, Isobe and the 4 fodder (Though WT is a special case I suppose), with a considerable amount making it to 6 too. So many classics. Crazy when we currently only have 3 (4) series over 5 years at the moment.

But what I'm seeing is a lot of those series started way earlier than that. I guess early 2010s was more of a continuist era and that's why there were comparitively less hits starting then.

2025 is when we'll really start to feel it, with the new big three of Jump.

Bold of you to assume One Piece will have ended by 2025.

 

[OniluapL]

I still think that One Piece and HxH will outlive everything else in the current lineup, which is... scary to think about.

 

[Franz]

2025 is when we'll really start to feel it, with the new big three of Jump.

Maybe Hero. And Jujutsu.

I doubt BC will survive this long

 

[Thundercat27]

I still think that One Piece and HxH will outlive everything else in the current lineup, which is... scary to think about.

I would not consider the current status of HxH to be alive. From my point of view, irregular publication is a fate worse than death.

 

[tirakai]

Was about to say the same thing, HxH's not really a "living" series. It's a dead manga that get briefly resuscitated once a year or two.

 

[supercow297]

Maybe Hero. And Jujutsu.

I doubt BC will survive this long

Jujutsu is a really fast paced series, I doubt it'll go to 400 chapters. BC on the other hand is aiming for potentially one piece level, I can see 500 ez. Tabata has been continuously improving thus far, let's hope we get some Shingeki levels of development.

 

[101nemesis]

WSJ mangaka comments talking about Shokugeki no Soma from issue 29

Interesting. More mangaka commented on SnS's end than Toriko's end.

 

[Franz]

Jujutsu is a really fast paced series, I doubt it'll go to 400 chapters. BC on the other hand is aiming for potentially one piece level

Let's not exaggerate, at most I see BC on the 300-400 chapters, 500 seem to me too many.

 

[tirakai]

Didn't Tabata say he'd like Black Clover to go up to 700 chapters if allowed to? There's definitely potential there, it's just a matter of remaining popular for long enough to do it. Black Clover and MHA are the only two current series I can picture maybe outlasting One Piece.

 

[101nemesis]

Didn't Tabata say he'd like Black Clover to go up to 700 chapters if allowed to? There's definitely potential there, it's just a matter of remaining popular for long enough to do it. Black Clover and MHA are the only two current series I can picture maybe outlasting One Piece.

BC doesn't have high enough sales to last that long. MHA maybe but even that's a maybe.

 

[tirakai]

Black Clover isn't some unpopular flop, it's a really successful series. It's sales are good enough to last however long it wants to as long as they don't drop too much.

 

[Ctkk]

As long as it can maintan it, it'll be fine. That's hard to do, though. Even Naruto and One Piece started to go down eventually. They were just so high that it didn't matter. Bleach too, although it fell harder. But it still had a very high cushion.

Soma came from a higher place than BC (it was in the oricon top 10 as late as 2017) and look at how quickly that collapsed.

I haven't read BC yet but from what I've heard it seems the current arc is quite climatic. So it's probably the next arc after that will determine whether it can retain interest or if people start saying that it should have ended earlier like they do with Bleach and Aizen.

 

[TheEroSennin]

Was about to say the same thing, HxH's not really a "living" series. It's a dead manga that get briefly resuscitated once a year or two.

Jump doesn't care as long as HxH keep getting high numbers

 

[101nemesis]

Black Clover isn't some unpopular flop, it's a really successful series. It's sales are good enough to last however long it wants to as long as they don't drop too much.

EVERY series peaks and then drops. Name a series that hasn't dropped from it's peak number (AC and KnB don't count since they ended at their peak). Naruto's 1 million per volume numbers which we saw was not what it sold during it's peak. We know how much One Piece has dropped. HxH has dropped as well. We are aware of the drops experienced by Bleach, Toriko, Reborn, Nura, Bakuman, Beelzebub, Soma, Haikyuu!, Prince of Tennis etc.

Also, BC's sales are in line with Beelzebub if not slightly more. No one called it an "unpopular flop" but a decline in sales can easily mean it'll get cancelled like what happened to Beelzebub or so many other series before it. Especially in a highly competitive era.