Discussion The Holy war

Who started the war?

  • The demon clan

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The demons weren't on par with the goddesses when Meliodas left, they were weaker, that was the whole point of the GCs attack, because they had the advantage. Meliodas maintained the balance, and when he betrayed the demons the balance broke, so Gowther took someone equal to Meliodas', Mael, and swapped him over, using him to bring back the balance Meliodas once upheld. The GC wanted a secure victory, not a drawn out war, because they don't like casualties, so they went for a draw instead.

This is all said by Gowther, I'm barely even paraphrasing, so it's all canon.

Oh and Indura that weren't commandments are far weaker, so they shouldn't be a threat as long as Elizabeth is around. It's only the Indura of Favor she has to worry about.
I don't think so, that line is the editor line and it shouldn't remain into the official volume on the market.

In short, it isn't legit.

Just wait the official translation coming out to see if that line is still there.

There are several Indura of favor, 4 roaming into the Demon World anyway like this one which is enough to destroy the entire Goddess Clan. Zeldoris, Monspiet and Derrierie are the potential Indura of favor, Zeldoris being the utmost strongest Indura of favor as he is literally the son of the DK and the highest ranked Demon after Mel's betrayal.

DK can create Indura of favor anyway, there are just highest ranking Demon loyal to him and who received title and decree from him.

If he wanted, he could make it more by selecting all high ranking Demon above 50K for himself. He has plenty of candidates lol.

Hell, one, the one that the Sins are fighting right now, is enough.

4 at the same time is overkill. It will literally be a horror movie or manga.
 
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I don't think so, that line is the editor line and it shouldn't remain into the official volume on the market.

In short, it isn't legit.

Just wait the official translation coming out to see if that line is still there.

There are several Indura of favor, 4 roaming into the Demon World anyway like this one which is enough to destroy the entire Goddess Clan. Zeldoris, Monspiet and Derrierie are the potential Indura of favor, Zeldoris being the utmost strongest Indura of favor as he is literally the son of the DK and the highest ranked Demon after Mel's betrayal.

Hell, one, the one that the Sins are fighting right now, is enough.

4 at the same time is overkill. It will literally be a horror movie or manga.
Wait zeldris an indura of favour since when
 

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Wait zeldris an indura of favour since when
He can be one, he is high ranking Demon and his power level far exceeds 50K.

Not to mention that he is the representative of the DK in the Holy War and son of him.

He also received the commandment of Piety in that War. And become the new leader of the 10C.

He is just a far better Monspiet and Derrierie lol.

If he transformed into an Indura of Favor, rest in piece for the entire Goddess Clan. Keep in mind that Zeldoris is already Archangels level and Ludo tier, now imagine that little Demon Prince transforming into an Indura of favor by sacrificing his 6 hearts to form a pact with the Darkness. Yeah, a new monster will be born.

He will be the strongest Indura of Favor that the Demon Clan never saw up until now lol.
 
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I don't think so, that line is the editor line and it shouldn't remain into the official volume on the market.

In short, it isn't legit.

Just wait the official translation coming out to see if that line is still there.

There are several Indura of favor, 4 roaming into the Demon World anyway like this one which is enough to destroy the entire Goddess Clan. Zeldoris, Monspiet and Derrierie are the potential Indura of favor, Zeldoris being the utmost strongest Indura of favor as he is literally the son of the DK and the highest ranked Demon after Mel's betrayal.

DK can create Indura of favor anyway, there are just highest ranking Demon loyal to him and who received title and decree from him.

If he wanted, he could make it more by selecting all high ranking Demon above 50K for himself. He has plenty of candidates lol.

Hell, one, the one that the Sins are fighting right now, is enough.

4 at the same time is overkill. It will literally be a horror movie or manga.
Meh, you can wait, if it's released in the Jap version its good enough for me.

Those 4 are Indura of different titles, not Indura of Favor. They're all prob about as strong as Baruja of Retribution, so not much to worry about. Zeldris isn't an Indura of Favor, and likely would never become one.

As far as we know, Derriere and Monspeit were the only demons in the demon realm with a PL over 50k, so no, the DK can't create Indura of Favor. He also has no way of forcing demons to make this sacrifice, he'd have to rely on loyalty, which most of the 10C seem to have an extreme lack of, including Zeldris.

The Indura rampage indiscriminately, best the DK could do is set the Indura loose in Brittania and hope there are a few goddesses around for it to kill. Even then, Elizabeth could simply call everyone to retreat, and leave the Indura to run amok, or she could wait til around noon, and then come back with Mael and Purify the lot of them at the same time with Mael powering her spell.
 

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Meh, you can wait, if it's released in the Jap version its good enough for me.

Those 4 are Indura of different titles, not Indura of Favor. They're all prob about as strong as Baruja of Retribution, so not much to worry about. Zeldris isn't an Indura of Favor, and likely would never become one.

As far as we know, Derriere and Monspeit were the only demons in the demon realm with a PL over 50k, so no, the DK can't create Indura of Favor. He also has no way of forcing demons to make this sacrifice, he'd have to rely on loyalty, which most of the 10C seem to have an extreme lack of, including Zeldris.

The Indura rampage indiscriminately, best the DK could do is set the Indura loose in Brittania and hope there are a few goddesses around for it to kill. Even then, Elizabeth could simply call everyone to retreat, and leave the Indura to run amok, or she could wait til around noon, and then come back with Mael and Purify the lot of them at the same time with Mael powering her spell.
You realize that the official translation will come soon lol. And that is case anyway as it is just the cover page and normally, there is nothing on the cover page lol.

Baruja is one Indura of favor, they are Indura with title, not nameless one.


That page is from the volume of the manga.

It was a hypothetical scenario, Zeldoris can be one.

The DK can and they will obey in order to be his pets and win for him.

He can also control them like Bijuu controlled by Madara, so nope.
 

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You mean this?

Yeah, it seems that it is legit thanks. It seems that only high tier Demon only recognized by the Demon Lord, can become the Indura of favor.
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Please, send me the link to read the official translation of the chapter.
 

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You realize that the official translation will come soon lol. And that is case anyway as it is just the cover page and normally, there is nothing on the cover page lol.
Indeed and I guess thats settled, normal Indura are weaker.

Baruja is one Indura of favor, they are Indura with title, not nameless one.


That page is from the volume of the manga.
You realise in that page there it actually says Baruja isn't an Indura of Favor? It says there are Indura of Favor, and there are other types of Indura, like Retribution, which is Baruja.
It was a hypothetical scenario, Zeldoris can be one.

The DK can and they will obey in order to be his pets and win for him.

He can also control them like Bijuu controlled by Madara, so nope.
Except he can't, and he didn't. There are no other known demons as powerful as Monspeit and Derriere and Zeldris isn't loyal to the DK. He's not likely to give up his future with Gelda just to win a war he has absolutely no interest in. If anything Indura Zeldris would use his power to turn on the DK.
DC is equal to the GC dude, as stated by the guy you claimed is "the smartest guy in the manga", give it up. Baruja tier Indura are barely a threat, and the only Indura of Favor we know of other than the Indura this chapter were Monspeit and Derriere, who Elizabeth already defeated.
Hmm, I hope Diane tackles one of these weaker Indura.
 

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Indeed and I guess thats settled, normal Indura are weaker.

You realise in that page there it actually says Baruja isn't an Indura of Favor? It says there are Indura of Favor, and there are other types of Indura, like Retribution, which is Baruja.
Except he can't, and he didn't. There are no other known demons as powerful as Monspeit and Derriere and Zeldris isn't loyal to the DK. He's not likely to give up his future with Gelda just to win a war he has absolutely no interest in. If anything Indura Zeldris would use his power to turn on the DK.
DC is equal to the GC dude, as stated by the guy you claimed is "the smartest guy in the manga", give it up. Baruja tier Indura are barely a threat, and the only Indura of Favor we know of other than the Indura this chapter were Monspeit and Derriere, who Elizabeth already defeated.
Hmm, I hope Diane tackles one of these weaker Indura.
DK can control them and they are mindless beast similar to an animal, so nope.

Baruja is one, it is one named by the DK, and that is how Indura became an Indura of favor.

Nope, they aren't thanks to those Indura beast. I know that Zeldoris would never do it, I am referring to a hypothetical scenario with the DC used any and all means possible.
 

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DK can control them and they are mindless beast similar to an animal, so nope.

Baruja is one, it is one named by the DK, and that is how Indura became an Indura of favor.

Nope, they aren't thanks to those Indura beast. I know that Zeldoris would never do it, I am referring to a hypothetical scenario with the DC used any and all means possible.
According to official translation, the indura we are seeing right now is the strongest out of all induras, including the ones that AAs couldnt handle.
 

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DK can control them and they are mindless beast similar to an animal, so nope.

Baruja is one, it is one named by the DK, and that is how Indura became an Indura of favor.

Nope, they aren't thanks to those Indura beast. I know that Zeldoris would never do it, I am referring to a hypothetical scenario with the DC used any and all means possible.
He can't force demons to become Indura, at least as far as we've seen. We also don't know of any demons as strong as Monspeit and Derriere.

Baruja isn't an Indura of Favor, the page you linked literally states he is another type of Indura.

Nah, the GC and DC are equal, we've known this for over a hundred chapters. Elizabeth hard counters the Indura.
According to official translation, the indura we are seeing right now is the strongest out of all induras, including the ones that AAs couldnt handle.
Where does it say that?
 

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So the only Indura that are an actual threat to the AA/Elizabeth are Derieri, Monspiet, the current one, Zeldris & Meliodas.

Not sure if the masters can become Indura since they were split from a single entity (though the horse could probably go Indura).
 

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He can't force demons to become Indura, at least as far as we've seen. We also don't know of any demons as strong as Monspeit and Derriere.

Baruja isn't an Indura of Favor, the page you linked literally states he is another type of Indura.

Nah, the GC and DC are equal, we've known this for over a hundred chapters. Elizabeth hard counters the Indura.

Where does it say that?
He can as their Lord. Or giving them that other otherwise it is an act of rebellion against him and the Demon Clan like Meliodas.

Yes, she is as giving a title by the DK himself.

Nope, they aren't with several Indura of favor on the DC side controlled by the DK.
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So the only Indura that are an actual threat to the AA/Elizabeth are Derieri, Monspiet, the current one, Zeldris & Meliodas.

Not sure if the masters can become Indura since they were split from a single entity (though the horse could probably go Indura).
They can, we saw their silhouette of monster similar to an Indura beast when they scared Arthur.

There are 3 others besides the current one that the sins are fighting too.

And they are a threat beyond them as they can fight Purgatory Ban with his sacred treasure lol.
 

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Where does it say that?
In this chapter? Indura of favor (which is the one ban is fighting) is the strongest out of all of other induras including indura monspiet and derrier combine
 

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In this chapter? Indura of favor (which is the one ban is fighting) is the strongest out of all of other induras including indura monspiet and derrier combine
I believe the other two induras in the indura introduction page (one dinosaur looking another with 6 arms) would be far stronger than this indura
 

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I believe the other two induras in the indura introduction page (one dinosaur looking another with 6 arms) would be far stronger than this indura
Well its confirmed thus to be stronger by the manga itself so if you're trying to go against it then all up to you. But DKs chooses it to battle sins to get enough time is a feat from it.
 

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Well its confirmed thus to be stronger by the manga itself so if you're trying to go against it then all up to you. But DKs chooses it to battle sins to get enough time is a feat from it.
Who knows if other two induras are coming, I mean we have seen many cases where nakaba hypes the characters like when he introduced the TC he said they are mightiest of the demon clan and then we had Chandler and cussack who were said to be far stronger and all that's why I think the other two induras are stronger than this one
 

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Who knows if other two induras are coming, I mean we have seen many cases where nakaba hypes the characters like when he introduced the TC he said they are mightiest of the demon clan and then we had Chandler and cussack who were said to be far stronger and all that's why I think the other two induras are stronger than this one
No where did they say TC was the strongest in the clan, they literally used the word "elite". So this argument that you're using is not gonna work. Merlin SAID Chandler and Cusack were the strongest in the demon aside from DK. In this chapter it was stated by no character other than nakaba who wrote the editorial text to be it being the strongest indura. Induras arent demons, they are separated from demons themselves as induras were never shown to be a part of the demon clan, sure previously they probsbly are but turning into hideous beast was never considered to be a demon.
 

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No where did they say TC was the strongest in the clan, they literally used the word "elite". So this argument that you're using is not gonna work. Merlin SAID Chandler and Cusack were the strongest in the demon aside from DK. In this chapter it was stated by no character other than nakaba who wrote the editorial text to be it being the strongest indura. Induras arent demons, they are separated from demons themselves as induras were never shown to be a part of the demon clan, sure previously they probsbly are but turning into hideous beast was never considered to be a demon.
I'm sure if the other two induras come they're definitely stronger than this one
 
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