Discussion The Holy war

[Ger]

I'm sure if the other two induras come they're definitely stronger than this one

Until then this one is the strongest. I dont go off basing my assumption based off non evident to prove those unknown induras are remotely strong or stronger.

 

[Estarossa173]

He can as their Lord. Or giving them that other otherwise it is an act of rebellion against him and the Demon Clan like Meliodas.

Yes, she is as giving a title by the DK himself.

Nope, they aren't with several Indura of favor on the DC side controlled by the DK.

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They can, we saw their silhouette of monster similar to an Indura beast when they scared Arthur.

There are 3 others besides the current one that the sins are fighting too.

And they are a threat beyond them as they can fight Purgatory Ban with his sacred treasure lol.

Don’t assume their silhouettes are an indication that they can go indura.

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He can as their Lord. Or giving them that other otherwise it is an act of rebellion against him and the Demon Clan like Meliodas.

Again, another assumption.

 

[Seven777]

He can as their Lord. Or giving them that other otherwise it is an act of rebellion against him and the Demon Clan like Meliodas.

Yes, she is as giving a title by the DK himself.

Nope, they aren't with several Indura of favor on the DC side controlled by the DK.

Yep, and they could all freely choose rebellion over giving their sanity for the cause.

Yep and that title is Indura of Retribution, not Indura of Favor. They're different types as stated by the page you presented.

Nah, the number of Indura of Favor is unknown. Gowther's statement is canon.

In this chapter? Indura of favor (which is the one ban is fighting) is the strongest out of all of other induras

Indura of favor are a type of Indura, they are Indura that were once commandments, as stated in this chapter. Which means both Monspeit and Derriere are Indura of Favor too.

monspiet and derrier combine

you made this up. Nowhere is it said to be stronger than both combined, for all you know they are each individually as powerful as this Indura of Favor and Elizabeth is just op as hell.

 

[Ger]

Indura of favor are a type of Indura, they are Indura that were once commandments, as stated in this chapter. Which means both Monspeit and Derriere are Indura of Favor too.

It literally said based on official translation to be the strongest out of all induras and its OTHER kind like u said is no where near. So its other kind (which is all other indura types are inferior to this one).

you made this up. Nowhere is it said to be stronger than both combined, for all you know they are each individually as powerful as this Indura of Favor and Elizabeth is just op as hell

Well it was never stated being combine but surviving a kick from ban who's STRONGER than Elizabeth is capable of doing so. Indura monspiet and derrieri being immature they are capable of pushing her ark and needed help from the other AAs. Elizabeth's feat against DK were based off him not taking her seriously, being caught off guard. She isnt even equal to meliodas as she needed for meliodas to be caught off guard to do so. I dont see how indura monspiet and derrieri are anywhere near despite the fact ban is the strongest character aside from God tiers so far

 

[Seven777]

It literally said based on official translation to be the strongest out of all induras and its OTHER kind like u said is no where near. So its other kind (which is all other indura types are inferior to this one).

It literally says this form of Indura is the strongest out of all Indura, not this specific Indura.

Well it was never stated being combine but surviving a kick from ban who's STRONGER than Elizabeth is capable of doing so. Indura monspiet and derrieri being immature they are capable of pushing her ark and needed help from the other AAs. Elizabeth's feat against DK were based off him not taking her seriously, being caught off guard. She isnt even equal to meliodas as she needed for meliodas to be caught off guard to do so. I dont see how indura monspiet and derrieri are anywhere near despite the fact ban is the strongest character aside from God tiers so far

The immaturity argument makes sense, and I do also believe Ban is stronger than Elizabeth... for now, chances are she is gonna contribute more to the DK fight though. But even though Ban is stronger, Elizabeth's Purification took all her energy and she still needed help, while Ban could prob solo this Indura if it came down to it. Lets be honest, right now this Indura is being no diffed, largely thanks to Ban. Maybe it'll get more feats later, but so far it hasn't done anything particularly impressive.

 

[sobreno]

Don’t assume their silhouettes are an indication that they can go indura.

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Again, another assumption.

But it is lol, what else it is then?

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Yep, and they could all freely choose rebellion over giving their sanity for the cause.

Yep and that title is Indura of Retribution, not Indura of Favor. They're different types as stated by the page you presented.

Nah, the number of Indura of Favor is unknown. Gowther's statement is canon.
Indura of favor are a type of Indura, they are Indura that were once commandments, as stated in this chapter. Which means both Monspeit and Derriere are Indura of Favor too. you made this up. Nowhere is it said to be stronger than both combined, for all you know they are each individually as powerful as this Indura of Favor and Elizabeth is just op as hell.

Nope, they can't as showed by their loyalty stronger than Mel.

Same thing as they are titled by the DK himself. He can make your Indura of favor but it seems that you are in denial about it lol.

Both Indura were still evolving and we know that Indura final stage is being gigantic, lol at Elizabeth being OP, nice wank.

She can't anything against a fully developed Indura even with help. She needed help against two semi evolving one.

 

[Ger]

It literally says this form of Indura is the strongest out of all Indura, not this specific Indura.

That's right indura of favor is the strongest out of all, but basing off this feat since this indura has been there for so long, longer than indura monspiet and derrieri, now its fighting ban who combated with DK and manage to give DK run for his money and its unknown of its result whether it's still alive next chapter or so. Though it survived a kick from ban and ban was forced to use his ST, which I would put it above both induras, not only that these same induras didnt really stomp ludoshel and forcing him to submit, unlike DK meliodas who forced ludo to stop mael cuz they arent in his realm of power. After seeing ban combating DK he was shock how a being could do so much.

 

[Seven777]

But it is lol, what else it is then?

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Nope, they can't as showed by their loyalty stronger than Mel.

Same thing as they are titled by the DK himself. He can make your Indura of favor but it seems that you are in denial about it lol.

Both Indura were still evolving and we know that Indura final stage is being gigantic, lol at Elizabeth being OP, nice wank.

She can't anything against a fully developed Indura even with help. She needed help against two semi evolving one.

Except they can, as shown by demons being convinced to retreat by Elizabeth. Everyone has a choice, including demons.

I'm not the one denying the manga. It literally says Baruja is a different type of Indura.

Speculation on your part, and poor speculation at that. We know from Gowther that the GC and DC are equal.

 

[OtakuFreak]

This nonsense that the Demon King can force any commandment members into Indura is silly.

Sure, he could probably ask them to do it for him and they might oblige, but if they refused then there isn't a spell for him to force someone into the transformation. This isn't like Hendrickson pressing a button and turning the new generation into fodder demons.

Every person has their own will in this universe, which has been shown multiple times through demons obeying orders and then having Elizabeth persuade them otherwise.

As for this Indura, it might be categorically one of the most Indura but it seems to pale in comparison to what Derieri and Monspiet showed us feat wise.

 

[sobreno]

Except they can, as shown by demons being convinced to retreat by Elizabeth. Everyone has a choice, including demons.

I'm not the one denying the manga. It literally says Baruja is a different type of Indura.

Speculation on your part, and poor speculation at that. We know from Gowther that the GC and DC are equal.

Lol, that was just fodders Demons.

Yes, you are, it is a titled Indura.

It really isn't as we know that Indura makes a huge difference in their favor.

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This nonsense that the Demon King can force any commandment members into Indura is silly.

Sure, he could probably ask them to do it for him and they might oblige, but if they refused then there isn't a spell for him to force someone into the transformation. This isn't like Hendrickson pressing a button and turning the new generation into fodder demons.

Every person has their own will in this universe, which has been shown multiple times through demons obeying orders and then having Elizabeth persuade them otherwise.

As for this Indura, it might be categorically one of the most Indura but it seems to pale in comparison to what Derieri and Monspiet showed us feat wise.

He literally did with the Indura that the Sins with current Ban is facing right now lol.

Nice denial.

 

[Seven777]

Lol, that was just fodders Demons.

Yes, you are, it is a titled Indura.

It really isn't as we know that Indura makes a huge difference in their favor.

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He literally did with the Indura that the Sins with current Ban is facing right now lol.

Nice denial.

Yep

And nowhere is it said that titled Indura are Indura of Favor. In fact it says the exact opposite, it says Indura of Favor are stronger than other titled Indura.

It is. What Gowther says>>>what you speculate.

 

[sobreno]

Yep

And nowhere is it said that titled Indura are Indura of Favor. In fact it says the exact opposite, it says Indura of Favor are stronger than other titled Indura.

It is. What Gowther says>>>what you speculate.

It is said that for nameless Indura which isn't the case for Baruja, Indura of favor has just Indura who were loyal to the DK which is the case of Baruja.

He didn't take Indura into account lol, which is a game changers for the Demons as showed by how the current Indura fight Current Purgatory Ban who trash to any Goddess besides the SD.

Along with Full Wings King.

 

[Seven777]

It is said that for nameless Indura which isn't the case for Baruja, Indura of favor has just Indura who were loyal to the DK which is the case of Baruja.

He didn't take Indura into account lol, which is a game changers for the Demons as showed by how the current Indura fight Current Purgatory Ban who shit to any Goddess besides the SD.

Along with Full Wings King.

No, it was said The Indura of Favor were more powerful than Indura of different names. Different names like Retribution.

Not really a game changer, because they didn't change the game in the slightest. The Indura existed long before Meliodas' betrayal, and even with their power and Meliodas dutifully carrying out his orders, the DC still couldn't beat the GC or a single other race. So again your speculation<<<Gowther's word

 

[sobreno]

No, it was said The Indura of Favor were more powerful than Indura of different names. Different names like Retribution.

Not really a game changer, because they didn't change the game in the slightest. The Indura existed long before Meliodas' betrayal, and even with them and Meliodas dutifully carrying out his orders, the DC still couldn't beat the GC or a single other race. So again your speculation<<<Gowther's word

Nope, as those Indura were named by the DK, you don't understand what a Indura in favor is and what conditions we need to meet in order to have one lol.

Because they didn't participate in the War, at least not the Indura who is fighting the current sins, mainly Purgatory Ban.

Lol at your speculation, no Goddess can resist the Assault of that Ban, along with current King.

Nice denial lol.

 

[Seven777]

Nope, as those Indura were named by the DK, you don't understand what a Indura in favor is and what conditions we need to meet in order to have one lol.

Because they didn't participate in the War, at least not the Indura who is fighting the current sins, mainly Purgatory Ban.

Lol at your speculation, no Goddess can resist the Assault of that Ban, along with current King.

Nice denial lol.

Cite your source for them being named by the DK.
Not that it matters anyway

Spoiler

Says here clear as day. "Of all their iterations, The Ten Commandments who were bestowed commandments by the Demon Lord transform into whats called the "favored" Indura. There are other types of Indura who have been given such titles as "Ashes", "Years", "Distant Thunder" and "Retribution", among others"

There is no speculation, I simply repeated what Gowther said, almost word for word in fact. It's not my fault you don't like what he said.

 

[sobreno]

Cite your source for them being named by the DK.
Not that it matters anyway

Spoiler

Says here clear as day. "Of all their iterations, The Ten Commandments who were bestowed commandments by the Demon Lord transform into whats called the "favored" Indura. There are other types of Indura who have been given such titles as "Ashes", "Years", "Distant Thunder" and "Retribution", among others"

There is no speculation, I simply repeated what Gowther said, almost word for word in fact. It's not my fault you don't like what he said.

Source? You literally have it lol.

" such titles ", indeed, that is it, titles comparable to them since the " such " and given by the DK himself.

Once again, that is your assumption and denial, which doesn't matter as the new Indura trash the Goddesses by feat beside the SD anyway lol.

 

[Seven777]

Source? You literally have it lol.

" such titles ", indeed, that is it, titles comparable to them since the " such " and given by the DK himself.

Once again, that is your assumption and denial, which doesn't matter as the new Indura trash the Goddesses by feat beside the SD anyway lol.

Nowhere in the page is it stated that the DK gave them the titles. All it says is there are other types of Indura than the Indura of Favor, and then literally gave Baruja as an example.

Like I said, I'm just repeating Gowther's words.

 

[sobreno]

Nowhere in the page is it stated that the DK gave them the titles. All it says is there are other types of Indura than the Indura of Favor, and then literally gave Baruja as an example.

Like I said, I'm just repeating Gowther's words.

Only the DK gave title in the Demon World lol, I don't need to prove common sense as he is the Lord of that world.

Hence the " such " title part.

Like I said, you ignores the current Indura one and his fear which trash anything that the Goddesses showed thus far lol.

 

[Seven777]

Only the DK gave title in the Demon World lol, I don't need to prove common sense as he is the Lord of that world.

Hence the " such " title part.

Like I said, you ignores the current Indura one and his fear which trash anything that the Goddesses showed thus far lol.

Says who?

I don't need to ignore it, because even with it, and a loyal Meliodas, the DC still couldn't beat anyone.

 

[Shadowlord123]

Not like I care that much for this debate, but right now this Indura is getting trashed by the Sins. Diane (who sits at 50K max with the dance) can actually hurt that thing. The same applies to Merlin. Ban casually destroyed those baby Induras and bullied the older one with Corechouse. Right now, this beast has done nothing remotely close that makes you think he can solo Mael, let alone the entire GC minus the SD.