Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Rain Spectre]

The "getting tired of demons" argument doesn't really work when the series which have demons tend to have very different interpretations, and demons and spirits in general have been a long-standing tradition in Jump with YuYu Hakusho, Shaman King, Bleach and D-Gray Man among others.

 

[Stivie]

Lol.
And even in a bad situation, Kamio Yui is selling more than the The Last Flopyuki.

Hi ? will you want to appeal to silly internet meme just to generate fights? And then he complains about me pretending to be a victim.

Whether you sell more or not, the two are DOA, dude.

 

[Aeneas]

Taisei's author preparin' for that axe already. :P

Spoiler

 

[Stivie]

Taisei's author preparin' for that axe already. :P

Spoiler

sadness, it seemed to be a good shogi manga.

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Lol.
you get the baits very easily.
Its very funny.

Not as much as your regrets at Nakano asking for sport manga the entire semester on the jump, just for now they are not satisfying anyone.

 

[Halloween]

Mr.Fuji, cut it out, now.

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

sadness, it seemed to be a good shogi manga.

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Not as much as your regrets at Nakano asking for sport manga the entire semester on the jump, just for now they are not satisfying anyone.

If you're bothered by this, I say this:
It's just the beginning.

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Mr.Fuji, cut it out, now.

I already stoped.

 

[Tamil]

less on the wraparounds and more on the recommendation themselves which have been proven to boost sales at times (rarely, but had happen)

True. I think there was one Oda gave a shoutout for? Anyway, its a rarity and point still stands its a weak argument.

 

[Rain Spectre]

If you're bothered by this, I say this:
It's just the beginning.

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I already stoped.

Beginning of what exactly? Sports manga? Your response makes zero sense.

Also, rather than just shrugging it off, you really should just apologize.

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Beginning of what exactly? Sports manga? Your response makes zero sense.

Also, rather than just shrugging it off, you really should just apologize.

He knows what I'm talking about, so it makes sense.

Btw, it was as I said.
I already stopped this conversation.
I have better things to do.

 

[TyVip]

True. I think there was one Oda gave a shoutout for? Anyway, its a rarity and point still stands its a weak argument.

Yeah your lie in april, but it also has an anime out around that time. There could be some overlap, or Oda is GOAT and causes every volume to sold out.

To answer the wrapping question, it helps somewhat but most of the wrapping is for on going manga that already receive good reprint. Most of the time it doesn’t matter

Matsui for act age i think volume 4/5
Togashi for KnY volume 2
Kochikame for Neverland volume 2/3
Horikoshi for the Saguyi chan manga in jump+?

Oda did one for my hero in an sbs
—-

Doesn’t matter
Posuka for David last volume
Director of Gintama for Samon-kun

 

[Rain Spectre]

Yeah your lie in april, but it also has an anime out around that time. There could be some overlap, or Oda is GOAT and causes every volume to sold out.

To answer the wrapping question, it helps somewhat but most of the wrapping is for on going manga that already receive good reprint. Most of the time it doesn’t matter

Matsui for act age i think volume 4/5
Togashi for KnY volume 2
Kochikame for Neverland volume 2/3
Horikoshi for the Saguyi chan manga in jump+?

Oda did one for my hero in an sbs
—-

Doesn’t matter
Posuka for David last volume
Director of Gintama for Samon-kun

Don't forget Oda shilled for Ne0;lation in another SBS.

 

[iceemperor]

I know the talk about quality is subjective

& I had a feeling the par for entry is pretty low, I'm saying imo it shouldn't be, this is the biggest manga magazine in the world so you can afford to only publish well-polished work with diverse themes

in regards to being strict, I'm aware we might lose on manga with a slow start like KnY or AA and I'd still take that risk if i was them
under the previous regime huge hits like KnB, AssClass, Hq, BnHA have managed to break through in a super competitive environment and I don't see why a well polished work wouldn't be able to today

in regards to campaigns, i understand this is a business promoting its products, but do they really have to do it in this manner? if you call everything "the next big thing" then nothing is
other magazines (with lower circulation and fewer readers) have generated hits without the need for a new campaign every other week

I can understand wanting a higher hurdle for entry but looking at stuff like Chainsawman, you can see that they're basically going for a diverse range of series. Chainsawman was actually on the fence as Nakano said in the recent Champion interview that many in the meeting felt it was a little too "extreme" and whether it was a Jump-ish series but they decided to "believe" in their readers and went forward with it and now it's booming.

Of those 4 series, only AssClass and Heroaca were massive right out of the gate. Kuroko and Haikyu were big (basically a level below the aforementioned two) but they truly exploded with their respective anime. Also, editors don't know what'll be a hit and what won't. They can guess based on past experience but every new series is basically a gamble. Mangaka also improve on the job so even if a series isn't that polished in the beginning, it can become more so as the series progresses. Act-age and Kimetsu and even Jujutsu are examples of this. Just seeing their success makes me feel like it's okay for them to give a little more leeway.

I too have wondered on the names of those campaigns but I remember hearing that rookie editors come up with these and also other phrases to be used in the magazine and the ones that sound the best are chosen. On that front I do think they should at least name them better instead of literally screaming "SUPER PUSHHHHH".

 

[Stivie]

He knows what I'm talking about, so it makes sense.

Btw, it was as I said.
I already stopped this conversation.
I have better things to do.

Dude, you wanted a discussion out of sheer nonsense, not me.

 

[Halloween]

Chainsawman was actually on the fence as Nakano said in the recent Champion interview

Got a link to the full interview?

 

[Aeneas]

Togashi for KnY volume 2

Vol. 4 (unless he did for 2 as well)

 

[CuriousReborn]

Only 3 volumes in the top 500
(Excluding Vol 11)

492 - Ｄｒ．ＳＴＯＮＥ　２
482 - Ｄｒ．ＳＴＯＮＥ　１０
431 - Ｄｒ．ＳＴＯＮＥ　１

This doesn't mean much, tomorrow is the real test

 

[Rain Spectre]

I can understand wanting a higher hurdle for entry but looking at stuff like Chainsawman, you can see that they're basically going for a diverse range of series. Chainsawman was actually on the fence as Nakano said in the recent Champion interview that many in the meeting felt it was a little too "extreme" and whether it was a Jump-ish series but they decided to "believe" in their readers and went forward with it and now it's booming.

Of those 4 series, only AssClass and Heroaca were massive right out of the gate. Kuroko and Haikyu were big (basically a level below the aforementioned two) but they truly exploded with their respective anime. Also, editors don't know what'll be a hit and what won't. They can guess based on past experience but every new series is basically a gamble. Mangaka also improve on the job so even if a series isn't that polished in the beginning, it can become more so as the series progresses. Act-age and Kimetsu and even Jujutsu are examples of this. Just seeing their success makes me feel like it's okay for them to give a little more leeway.

I too have wondered on the names of those campaigns but I remember hearing that rookie editors come up with these and also other phrases to be used in the magazine and the ones that sound the best are chosen. On that front I do think they should at least name them better instead of literally screaming "SUPER PUSHHHHH".

Series that actually take chances and have faith in the reader always have a significantly higher chance succeeding than ones that don't IMO. Look at Beast Children, it plays things beyond safe and for it is perhaps one of the most forgettable and dull manga I've ever seen.

Don't forget, AssClass had the MAJOR advantage in that it appealed massively to students for obvious reasons, and HeroAca was being hyped up significantly because of the power vacuum Naruto was leaving.

 

[shoyoboyo]

On that front I do think they should at least name them better instead of literally screaming "SUPER PUSHHHHH".

I like Jump Super Push, the name is funny and self-aware.

HeroAca was being hyped up significantly because of the power vacuum Naruto was leaving.

Orrr just maybe it was being hyped up on its own merit?

 

[Rain Spectre]

Orrr just maybe it was being hyped up on its own merit?

Oh, much of the discussion was def because of the manga itself, but I think it's pretty certain Jump only gave it such a big first print run was because they knew the series could be molded into a new pillar for the roster.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Series that actually take chances and have faith in the reader always have a significantly higher chance succeeding than ones that don't IMO. Look at Beast Children, it plays things beyond safe and for it is perhaps one of the most forgettable and dull manga I've ever seen.

Don't forget, AssClass had the MAJOR advantage in that it appealed massively to students for obvious reasons

Wanting to kill their teachers?

And you need to read more things if Beast Children is one of the most forgettable and dull mangas you have ever seen, seriously, i've seen hundreds of worst mangas in just Shonen Jump alone.,,