Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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What was the ziga author bitter about?
If I recall correctly,
He ended the epilogue chapter with some of those other monster generals shoving the shark girl everyone loved into the mouth of a giant monster. Basically, he brutally and pointlessly killed off the only shred of popularity this series ever received.
 

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I do wish Jump would use more adult MC's. Especially since, you know, that's their biggest reader demographic.
I loved when Luck Stealer (which was in Jump Square, but still shonen) used an adult MC. Such a shame we dont get that more often.
 

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The thing is what you hear in websites (even japanese websites) will not necessarily reflect the real popularity of the character.

For example: I remember that Tsuyu (MHA) had many fans in some websites, but she is not a really popular character in the polls.
Tsuyu was in the top 10 in the first two japanese polls and in all the viz ones (if you mean western sites).

Horikoshi even said in an interview that her role in the story was expanded because of her popularity.

So she was definitely very popular, just not the absolute fan-favorite with no competition.
 

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Tsuyu was in the top 10 in the first two japanese polls and in all the viz ones (if you mean western sites).

Horikoshi even said in an interview that her role in the story was expanded because of her popularity.

So she was definitely very popular, just not the absolute fan-favorite with no competition.
True.

However, the way people in some websites spoke about Tsuyu made look her as an extremely popular character (and the most popular female character). As you said, that wasn't the case.

I mentioned this based on the supposed popularity of Estelle (in websites), which some though could help save the manga Last Saiyuki.
 

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True.

However, the way people in some websites spoke about Tsuyu made look her as an extremely popular character (and the most popular female character). As you said, that wasn't the case.

I mentioned this based on the supposed popularity of Estelle (in websites), which some though could help save the manga Last Saiyuki.
And it would also be necessary to wait for the 2nd volume to know if the popularity of Estelle would help or not in the survival of the manga, and I doubt that the jump will wait so long to cancel saiyuki.
Higuma who sold more and had a better in its 2nd volume was canceled.
 

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Part of the reason for Estelle's popularity might have been that fans were desperate for something to "save" the series, and latched on to Estelle when it turned out she was a pretty cool character. She was popular, sure, but I think how much was exaggerated, people who read the series liked her I'm doubtful that she brought in any new readers.
 

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I do wish Jump would use more adult MC's. Especially since, you know, that's their biggest reader demographic.
basically this

It will depend if the adult audience of WSJ wants this. They being adults doesn't mean they are interested in an adult MC.

I mean many Seinen use young adult (or characters that look like young adults) as main characters.
I'm an adult that read WSJ, I don't particularly want an adult mc in the magazine
I assume a lot of adults that read it do so out of nostalgia/escapism/ and trying to recapture their childhood magic & they don't want to be reminded of how old they're
 
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Spy X Family should have been serialized in the main mag of Jump
It wouldn't exist if it was on WSJ. And I don't know why this makes any difference, except for the fetish of having every manga possible to have an anime. lol
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It will depend if the adult audience of WSJ wants this. They being adults doesn't mean they are interested in an adult MC.

I mean many Seinen use young adult (or characters that look like young adults) as main characters.
Not only that but seinen magazines like Comic Cune and the kirara line uses female characters on middle/high school so it's more the intention of the magazine than the major public reading it.
 

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I'm an adult that read WSJ, I don't particularly want an adult mc in the magazine
I assume a lot of adults that read it do so out of nostalgia/escapism/ and trying to recapture their childhood magic & they don't want to be reminded of how old they're
I think were talking "young adult", maybe even "older, mature teen". And also in some sort of badass or fantastical context that still allows for escapism.
I doubt that anyone really wants a 40+ year old accountant in a WSJ manga. You got seinen magazines for that.

And I would also like more stories with older characters, even if it's not the main plot. The small Endeavor-arc in MHA is one of my favorites in the entire series and the Vigilante-spinoff also got some very entertaining stories with mostly older characters.
 

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I just noticed almost 40 percent of the poll voters think Beast Children will swing up this week and end up at the middle, interesting.
 

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I just noticed almost 40 percent of the poll voters think Beast Children will swing up this week and end up at the middle, interesting.
most people really liked this manga, I would say that much more than samurai 8.
 

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it's good that they gave Chainsaw a chance in the end, but being on the fence about a series because it isn't Jump-ish while shoving GIGA flops here and there isn't really making me hopeful

my point in mentioning those 4, is to say you don't need to hand hold new series, they can break out by themselves
even ones with slower start than instant hits survived the magazine until their anime popularity arrived

and about the campaigns, it's the same argument as Coach vs General Manager from sports discussions, when a team is doing badly who's to blame?
the coach or the guy that put the coach in this position?

are those rookie editors to blame or who put them in that position? I would argue their superiors are



Kamio & Saiyuki have been struggling magazines wise since ch 9
but they kept them in the magazine for 10 more weeks (about 3 months)
why? the the hope volume sales would be great enough to save them?
now, that volumes are out and flopping what did they gain?
a good old 12 ch axe could have cut their losses :eyeroll
Yeesh, you come off as really bitter.

Anyway, as plenty of people have pointed out, this is simply being economical. Jump doesn't have the massively solid pillars of the Big 3 anymore to sustain themselves and series go whenever they feel like it. They have to be persise about when they let things end.
 

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So according to Manga+ Saiyuki could be reaching Chapter 21 at this rate (3 saved IDs for the series right now, so that same chapter could be the last one tho). Didnt expect this, I thought It would have been axed earlier. Same with Yui Kamio tho, 3 more chapters for sure.
 

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So according to Manga+ Saiyuki could be reaching Chapter 21 at this rate (3 saved IDs for the series right now, so that same chapter could be the last one tho). Didnt expect this, I thought It would have been axed earlier. Same with Yui Kamio tho, 3 more chapters for sure.
What do you mean saved IDs? I had no idea you were able to see that (though they could just be the usual placeholders and not mean anything in the end).
In any case I won't be surprised if WSJ waits for another round until after GFC ends.
 

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urls, if you look closely there are patterns and tells,

tldr, chapters are consecutive for a while and then they have a skip to the next batch,
 

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What do you mean saved IDs? I had no idea you were able to see that (though they could just be the usual placeholders and not mean anything in the end).
In any case I won't be surprised if WSJ waits for another round until after GFC ends.
Every 4 weeks WSJ titles chante the links they use for chapters, and usually hace 4 saved of what I call IDs (f.e., lets say One Piece gets the ID 1000001, then 1000002, 1000003 and 1000004, and then 1000005 would be other series). This can change whenever the series gets a break (like Boku no Hero some weeks ago, which ended up in the series only getting 3 of those IDs) and of course when series ends. It has worked everytime as of now, that's why I'm guessing they should still get 3 more chapters.
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urls, if you look closely there are patterns and tells,

tldr, chapters are consecutive for a while and then they have a skip to the next batch,
Yeah, this is basically it.
 

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Every 4 weeks WSJ titles chante the links they use for chapters, and usually hace 4 saved of what I call IDs (f.e., lets say One Piece gets the ID 1000001, then 1000002, 1000003 and 1000004, and then 1000005 would be other series). This can change whenever the series gets a break (like Boku no Hero some weeks ago, which ended up in the series only getting 3 of those IDs) and of course when series ends. It has worked everytime as of now, that's why I'm guessing they should still get 3 more chapters.
Elaborate a bit, please? I'm not 100% convinced those aren't just blanks.
 

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Enjoyed this week’s chapter of Taisei.

Lol that blindfold.
 

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Elaborate a bit, please? I'm not 100% convinced those aren't just blanks.
That's the most I can elaborate. You can just check how f.e. Act-Age chapters from 68 to 71 follow that pattern, then change to another series and do the same, etc. I cant actually give a full list of how this works because its pretty hard to do it on phone, but you can actually check how they use 'batches' of URLs for every WSJ series every 4 weeks.

Actually, found an old example of this but won't probably help too much since chapters are unavailable (but you can check the numbers iirc):

1001907-1001910 -> Jujutsu Kaisen 58-61


1001911-1001914 -> My Hero Academia 227-230


1001915-1001918 -> Kimetsu no Yaiba 157-160


1001919-1001922 -> Haikyu!! 348-351


1001923-1001926 -> Black Clover 204-207


1001927-1001930 -> Shokugeki no Soma 310-313


1001931-1001934 -> We Never Learn 110-113


1001935-1001937 -> Dr. Stone 105-107


1001938-1001941 -> Act-Age 64-67


1001942-1001945 -> Chainsawman 21-24

The whole point of this is to check that there's actually no blank spaces between WSJ titles, although there are between some older series (most of them to fill with re-editions chapters).
 
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