Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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I have to admit, my favorite Jump manga (Toriko) has traditionally ugly art. Shima is great at creature designs, but his art style is indicative of a different era.

Plus, you know, his ability to draw human anatomy is pretty lacking, admittedly. Interestingly enough, I felt like he improved with Build King.
 

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Still no confirmation if HZ will conclude in GIGA?


it ended brother

if anything need wrapping up, they will just release a light novel
like they did with the first part
 

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So happy to see Jujutsu Based first. I hope it gets anime announcement soon. And another cover soon.

Hopefully these 1st places also help Jujutsu to finally get some visibility in West. Is sad how in Spain nobody knows it exist.

Act-age being so low meanwhile hurts me.
 
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with Hinomaru ending and Beast flopping only Hq remain in the sports genre

this is another problem beside the current "zero gag manga in the line up" problem

I was going to ask what happened to the biking manga from last year that everyone here liked

then I googled it, it was 2 years ago, time sure flies

 

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lol all new manga except samurai 8 on the bottom
 

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Disastrous for Beast Children, and a bottom 5 for Tokyo Shinobi Squad, which is bound to be lower soon.

Seems Kamio Yui could actually survive this round.
 

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I mean, did anyone really think Taisei, Beast or Shinobi were going to survive? They all looked pretty DOA to me...
 

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I mean, did anyone really think Taisei, Beast or Shinobi were going to survive? They all looked pretty DOA to me...
I thought Beast could have had a shot to work, but seems this won't be the one to do that.
 

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Zumou ended kinda rushed to be honest, maybe the last volume will have a quick epilogue included? i thought it would have a marriage and stuff in the end but it seems like the last chapter is just Ushio being the champion lol

as long as you keep disguising your opinions as facts I'll call you out on them
you didn't say it failed, which is a fact
you said why it failed, which is an opinion

and minority is always the exception for the rule, not the rule

and about your healthy debate comment, you're the last person to talk
you're the guy that keeps screenshoting my posts along with rica, buranchi, shinuki, curious and pretty much anyone that disagrees with you and post them to a different site to mock them with your friends

you called us dumb, mentally ill, deranged boomers, etc behind our backs so how does that make for a healthy debate???


well, here's another screenshot for your discord
This is true? because if it is, well, there goes away my opinion that he actually improved a lot in the last weeks...
 
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At this rate only samurai 8 and chainsaw man will be the only successes of 2019.
 

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with Hinomaru ending and Beast flopping only Hq remain in the sports genre

this is another problem beside the current "zero gag manga in the line up" problem

I was going to ask what happened to the biking manga from last year that everyone here liked

then I googled it, it was 2 years ago, time sure flies

The problem is that we don't know how much furudate had planed.
Hq could end after this arc or began a 2 year
 

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But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

If it were so they should drop them all if you do not do it halfway up already from the first rank.

Jujutsu who started like this today is first, act age the same speech.
 

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The issue with sports manga is one of execution being the only thing which a sports manga can use to get interest.

There is a very limited pool of ideas which comes with sports manga. Nearly all of them have the same basic narrative structure of "Team Assembles, Some Initial Matches, Prefecture Tournament, Nationals" and are set at high-schools with an often struggling team. That's a pretty basic template, and there's only so far you can stretch the basics until it becomes unrecognizable.

To recap all the sport successes since the end of Slam Dunk, sans Rising Impact, Whistle and Hinomaru:
-Hikaru no Go: Had basically the same base appeal of Slam Dunk in "discovering" a lesser known sport with the protagonist. Being a board game, it was also new territory for Jump.
-Rookies: Established author work which was more about the daily lives of the team over the intense dramatics. Was generally for a more mature audience.
-Prince of Tennis: Extremely flashy and extravagant, was basically what made sports manga so associated with fujoshi.
-Eyeshield 21: Very exaggerated and extreme without "technically" breaking reality. Had some of the best artwork in the industry at the time.
-Kuroko's Basketball: More or less an attempt to marry Slam Dunk and Prince of Tennis' styles into one manga.
-Haikyu: More or less a complete refinement of the entire genre up to this point, refocusing on character drama and a realistic depiction of the sport while retaining the expanded character dynamics and visual imagery.

The basic underlying thing with all of these is that, until Haikyu, they were basically finding ways to bend the build Slam Dunk used, leading to different ideas on the concepts that were both good (expanded focus on the members of various teams) and bad (ridiculously exaggerated character motivations and special moves). Haikyu can be seen as culmination of sorts towards this idea, refocusing on the most acclaimed aspects of the genre while discarding the stuff which attracts mockery. It's very comparable to HeroAca in how it's both accessible to new readers and strong in quality.

The question then becomes, where do we go from here? What exactly can be done to expand sport as a genre at this point. Curious what people think, because I sure don't know.
 

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Hinomaruuuuuuuu!!!!! Fuck! I at least wanted an epilogue of sorts in GIGA, Soma got one for crying out loud! Heck with how the new batch is doing I was at least expecting some time for a proper wrap up here in the main magazine.

Oh well, it is what it is, thank you Kawada for such an amazing journey with great art, characters and a compelling story all this years, I only joined midway through but it was such a blast following it as of now. Best of luck for your next work, hoping it can catch on a wider audience without compromising your artistic integrity.

While I wish for him to come back to Jump, I think he’ll do better on a different magazine, a seinen one at that; or probably even moving to a different editorial, like Kodansha. But we’ll thats it from me for now. Goodbye HZ, you will be missed
 
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