Fantasy Brandish vs Laxus

[Seven777]

Lol what? Sting or Minerva's attacks are nowhere near the power levels of today and Sema got beat out by a flick of the wrist from Laxus or the War God slash which is way greater than them. Without bigger attacks we can't scale anyone off of it for a power increase.

She was scared of the legend. She got backstabbed and beat up by bloodlusted Natsu and only had superficial injuries lol.

Natsu was shitting his pants at Brandish while she wasn't against Natsu. So no difference.

Sting and Minerva's attacks are bigger than FDK Demolition Fist. Sema dwarfs every single attack from Natsu combined, by miles. Attack size means nothing.

She got scared cause she got massacred, she saw him coming and tried to stop time, but regardless of her hax she was beaten so hard and left so brutally wounded that she couldn't even stop them from cuffing her a while after.

Which just proves how little MP means, since Natsu can beat literally every character in the series.

 

[GL_Nova]

This i agree. Durability and Attack Power is different thing. But we don't have anything to suggest that laxus could tank a etherion to his face.

This isn’t true. Not only could Wahl effortlessly fire off an etherion blast (effectively answering the question about them being capable of country level outputs) it was what his computer brain thought was necessary to finish off an already dying Laxus. So why wouldn’t we think he could handle it?

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Suit yourself. But I'll stand with my statement as well. Mashima has stated Fiore is a country and I'll go with the writer. I don't how your calculating energy stuff works but by this logic if Irene compressed Ishigar she would what Multi-continental to Moon level.

What does it being a country in name have to do with it having the mass of what we consider a continent? It would just prove their continents are far larger than ours.

Yeah, it totally would.

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This is the only site that would put Laxus above Brandish or power above hax lol.

And you can't even say he has more power either since Brandish can drop islands and Laxus biggest attack was a mountain sized nuke. Islands >>>> Mountains.

So what’s your reasoning for why we should ignore August assessment that Laxus casual Nuke was capable of killing Ajeel? An while you’re at it, do you have a reason to ignore Zeref’s expectation that Laxus could reach him in the guildhall, knowing he would have to fight his way through his armies and assembled Spriggan to do so?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

his isn’t true. Not only could Wahl effortlessly fire off an etherion blast (effectively answering the question about them being capable of country level outputs) it was what his computer brain thought was necessary to finish off an already dying Laxus. So why wouldn’t we think he could handle it?

For the simple fact Whal couldn't fire it in time. So you have nothing to prove Laxus can tank it.

 

[GL_Nova]

For the simple fact Whal couldn't fire it in time. So you have nothing to prove Laxus can tank it.

It was never stated he couldn’t fire it, where are you getting this misinformation from? Laxus interrupted him. An yeah, him feeling it was necessary to kill an already dying Laxus makes that seem pretty obvious.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It was never stated he couldn’t fire it, where are you getting this misinformation from

He went retarted and didn't fire it. I never said he couldn't fire it but he didn't so we have nothing to prove Laxus can take one to the face and survive it. His computer mind was not very good since he fired a railgun when Laxus was falling injured from the sky which powered him up in the end. But why this Etherion stuff is relevant against this battle against Brandish.

 

[GL_Nova]

He went retarted and didn't fire it. I never said he couldn't fire it but he didn't so we have nothing to prove Laxus can take one to the face and survive it. His computer mind was not very good since he fired a railgun when Laxus was falling injured from the sky which powered him up in the end. But why this Etherion stuff is relevant against this battle against Brandish.

He didn’t know he was a dragon slayer so why not use one of the best weapons modern tech yields? An he didn’t fire it because he was startled by the rune Shiki reveal, but none of that invalidates that based on their fight up until that point and the data gathered, it was the best course to assure victory against a, again, dying Laxus.

An because it’s the part you response too honestly

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

He didn’t know he was a dragon slayer so why not use one of the best weapons modern tech yields?

He knew Laxus was Dragon Slayer other wise he wouldn't say that he forgot Laxus thrives on electricity. For machine to forget stuff is pretty funny joke. It would be funny if Zeref didn't know that laxus is a dragon slayer when he somehow knew Gray's background.

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[GL_Nova]

He knew Laxus was Dragon Slayer other wise he wouldn't say that he forgot Laxus thrives on electricity. For machine to forget stuff is pretty funny joke. It would be funny if Zeref didn't know that laxus is a dragon slayer when he somehow knew Gray's background.

Spoiler: Spoiler

I always took it as he forgot his element in the moment, not confirmation he knows he’s a slayer. Regardless, how did you add the pic in like that?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Regardless, how did you add the pic in like that?

Add the image inside the Spoiler tag.

 

[Star Frost]

If it wasn't for Brandish's hax, I would say Laxus wins but she obviously got this with her hax. If she can enlarge Natsu's tumor and blow him up from within if she had so chooses, she can do the same for Laxus organs.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Brandish wins no diff. She can literally shrink his brain or something instantaneously.

 

[HybridTheory]

Brandish wins no diff. She can literally shrink his brain or something instantaneously.

His hax doesn't even work on Neinhart who get one-shotted by Natsu

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

His hax doesn't even work on Neinhart who get one-shotted by Natsu

All the Spriggan’s apart from the top 3 have the same level of magic power. Brandish and Neinhart had an equal amount of magic, so her hax’s would have worked on him. However, when Irene put her magic into Neinhart by enchanting him he became too strong for Command T. Brandish’s magic can’t work on someone who specifically has more magic than she has. Unless Laxus has more MP than most of the Spriggan’s, he’ll die. If anything, I can only see him having an equal amount of magic power compared to Brandish and even then, I’ve never seen Gray terrified of Laxus’ magic power. So that’s just wishful thinking.

People that keep mentioning the fact that Neinhart got one shotted by Natsu need to realise that has nothing to do with magic power. Neinhart has a lot of magic power but his defence was God awful. Command T is specifically dependent on magic power, not actual defence. Do people even pay attention lol

 

[Seven777]

All the Spriggan’s apart from the top 3 have the same level of magic power. Brandish and Neinhart had an equal amount of magic, so her hax’s would have worked on him. However, when Irene put her magic into Neinhart by enchanting him he became too strong for Command T. Brandish’s magic can’t work on someone who specifically has more magic than she has. Unless Laxus has more MP than most of the Spriggan’s, he’ll die. If anything, I can only see him having an equal amount of magic power compared to Brandish and even then, I’ve never seen Gray terrified of Laxus’ magic power. So that’s just wishful thinking.

People that keep mentioning the fact that Neinhart got one shotted by Natsu need to realise that has nothing to do with magic power. Neinhart has a lot of magic power but his defence was God awful. Command T is specifically dependent on magic power, not actual defence. Do people even pay attention lol

No one said anything about MP, just that Neinhart became too strong. MP is just one small aspect of a characters overall strength, Laxus is overall much stronger than Brandish, as he was shown to be much stronger than two of her peers, so he should beat her easily. He’s also faster and could one shot her first.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

No one said anything about MP, just that Neinhart became too strong. MP is just one small aspect of a characters overall strength, Laxus is overall much stronger than Brandish, as he was shown to be much stronger than two of her peers, so he should beat her easily. He’s also faster and could one shot her first.

He became too strong for Command T to work on him because Irene enchanted him. Neinhart + Irene’s enchantment had more magic power than Brandish, so Command T wouldn’t work on him. All Irene did was put some of her magic power in Neinhart, you know, since that’s what an enchantment is. Neinhart became too strong because he had more magic power than Brandish had. Laxus doesn’t have more magic power than Brandish so Brandish would use her INSTANTANEOUS Command T to kill Laxus. It’s really not that hard.

You could have Brandish beat in every category apart from magic power and you’ll still lose. Why? Because Command T is based on magic and nothing else. Laxus’ head will pop or shrink. Brandish could’ve solo’d Fairytail it she wanted to but instead she was naked in Lucy’s bathtub. Command T is pure hax. Not many people in the Fairytail verse can beat Brandish and Laxus isn’t one of them. Ajeel and Wahl would both get one shotted by Brandish so....

 

[Seven777]

He became too strong for Command T to work on him because Irene enchanted him. Neinhart + Irene’s enchantment had more magic power than Brandish, so Command T wouldn’t work on him. All Irene did was put some of her magic power in Neinhart, you know, since that’s what an enchantment is. Neinhart became too strong because he had more magic power than Brandish had. Laxus doesn’t have more magic power than Brandish so Brandish would use her INSTANTANEOUS Command T to kill Laxus. It’s really not that hard.

You could have Brandish beat in every category apart from magic power and you’ll still lose. Why? Because Command T is based on magic and nothing else. Laxus’ head will pop or shrink. Brandish could’ve solo’d Fairytail it she wanted to but instead she was naked in Lucy’s bathtub. Command T is pure hax. Not many people in the Fairytail verse can beat Brandish and Laxus isn’t one of them. Ajeel and Wahl would both get one shotted by Brandish so....

Yes, he could resist because of Eileen's enchantment on him, however no one said anything about his MP being higher, just that he was stronger, and like I said, MP is just one aspect of a characters strength.
As for Laxus not having more MP than Brandish, you don't know that. All we can safely say is that no one on team Natsu had more MP than Brandish.

Command T isn't instantaneous, it's why Brandish couldn't beat Dimaria. Whenever Brandish uses Command T she raises her hand or snaps her fingers. Laxus can similarly launch the nuke he used on Ajeel just by raising his hand, the difference of course being that Laxus is far faster than Brandish, and so would cast his spell first.

No, the stronger fighter always wins. If you beat Brandish in every category she loses, likely because her hax won't work, but even if her hax does work on you, but you are simply more powerful, then you still win. Doesn't matter how great her instakill technique is, the more powerful opponent can always overcome it one way or another. Organ busting is overrated anyway, who knows if she can even do it in combat.

 

[Axiomus]

Yes, he could resist because of Eileen's enchantment on him, however no one said anything about his MP being higher, just that he was stronger, and like I said, MP is just one aspect of a characters strength.

Well actually, Neinhart himself mentioned that his magic power has outstripped it's limits. Neinhart would have been stronger than most of the Spriggans at that point, at least in terms of MP.

As far as who wins this fight, either Brandish's magic works on Laxus or Laxus beats her down in a straight fight. We won't know until we see the limits of who Brandish can or cannot effect.

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

Yes, he could resist because of Eileen's enchantment on him, however no one said anything about his MP being higher, just that he was stronger, and like I said, MP is just one aspect of a characters strength.
As for Laxus not having more MP than Brandish, you don't know that. All we can safely say is that no one on team Natsu had more MP than Brandish.

Command T isn’t instantaneous, it's why Brandish couldn't beat Dimaria. Whenever Brandish uses Command T she raises her hand or snaps her fingers. Laxus can similarly launch the nuke he used on Ajeel just by raising his hand, the difference of course being that Laxus is far faster than Brandish, and so would cast his spell first.

No, the stronger fighter always wins. If you beat Brandish in every category she loses, likely because her hax won't work, but even if her hax does work on you, but you are simply more powerful, then you still win. Doesn't matter how great her instakill technique is, the more powerful opponent can always overcome it one way or another. Organ busting is overrated anyway, who knows if she can even do it in combat.

Command T is instantaneous. She’s activated it before without making any gesture’s before. Of course Dimaria stopping time is going to be quicker than Command T.

Also, someone in the commentsalso said that Neinhart said his magic passed his limits, so he had more MP than Brandish. Notice how Brandish used Command T on Natsu after he one shotted Neinhart? Because Natsu was physically stronger than Neinhart but he still had less MP than he had, so Command T worked on Natsu and not on Neinhart.

We know for a fact that Brandish can bust organs lol. It’s like the sky is blue. She enlarged Natsu’s head as a joke and shrunk Lucy’s breasts as a joke. She shrunk a tumour. She can shrink Laxus’ brain, bust his organs. So many different methods of killing him.

Brandish does have more MP than Laxus. Gray never met anyone with more MP than Brandish had and she was casually walking around. Her MP is probably too much to contain when she’s in base so it leaks out. And even if I give Laxus the benefit of the doubt and say he has the same amount of MP that Brandish has, Command T would still work on him. Laxus doesn’t have more MP than Brandish has and he has no feats that say otherwise.

Command T is based on magic. That is a canon fact. If you have an equal amount of magic to Brandish or less, you will lose. This is literally backed up by manga facts.

 

[Seven777]

Command T is instantaneous. She’s activated it before without making any gesture’s before. Of course Dimaria stopping time is going to be quicker than Command T.

No it isn’t, we saw her use it in a straight fight, it is far from instantaneous. Even Dimarias magic isn’t instantaneous, she has to click her teeth first. Brandish lost to Dimaria because she was too slow, same thing would happen if she were to fight Laxus.

Also, someone in the commentsalso said that Neinhart said his magic passed his limits, so he had more MP than Brandish. Notice how Brandish used Command T on Natsu after he one shotted Neinhart? Because Natsu was physically stronger than Neinhart but he still had less MP than he had, so Command T worked on Natsu and not on Neinhart.

I saw her sneak attack Natsu, sure, doesn’t mean much. Sneak attacks almost always work. August did it to Brandish, Cana did it to Brandish, Mest did it to Brandish. It also happens to most other characters too, Brandish just has so many examples.

We know for a fact that Brandish can bust organs lol. It’s like the sky is blue. She enlarged Natsu’s head as a joke and shrunk Lucy’s breasts as a joke. She shrunk a tumour. She can shrink Laxus’ brain, bust his organs. So many different methods of killing him.

Nah, we know she can sneakily get her opponents organs when they’re not looking. Invel managed to instafreeze Natsu too, and Ice Lock Gray, we haven’t seen either used in combat though, just as we haven’t seen Brandishs organ bust used in combat. So I can safely ignore it.

Saying Brandish can organ bust Laxus in a fight is like saying Mest can mindrape Brandish in a fight and make her kill herself.

Brandish does have more MP than Laxus. Gray never met anyone with more MP than Brandish had and she was casually walking around. Her MP is probably too much to contain when she’s in base so it leaks out. And even if I give Laxus the benefit of the doubt and say he has the same amount of MP that Brandish has, Command T would still work on him. Laxus doesn’t have more MP than Brandish has and he has no feats that say otherwise.

Fraid not. Gray hadn’t met any member of FT outside team Natsu and Juvia since before the one year time skip, which means he can only know the mp of team Natsu and preskip FT. Mirajane, Laxus and Gildarts could all have Spriggan plus MP.

As for Laxus feats that say otherwise, casually dropping a nuke, which is pure magic and no physicals, that can outright kill a spriggan in one hit according to their strongest and most knowledgeable member, does sorta imply he has not only greater mp, but far greater mp.

Command T is based on magic. That is a canon fact. If you have an equal amount of magic to Brandish or less, you will lose. This is literally backed up by manga facts.

No it isn’t, and you can’t provide a single panel that says it is. But even if it was, it doesn’t matter, if you are stronger overall you win, the most powerful fighter always does.

Well actually, Neinhart himself mentioned that his magic power has outstripped it's limits. Neinhart would have been stronger than most of the Spriggans at that point, at least in terms of MP.

As far as who wins this fight, either Brandish's magic works on Laxus or Laxus beats her down in a straight fight. We won't know until we see the limits of who Brandish can or cannot effect.

Fair point

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

No it isn’t, we saw her use it in a straight fight, it is far from instantaneous. Even Dimarias magic isn’t instantaneous, she has to click her teeth first. Brandish lost to Dimaria because she was too slow, same thing would happen if she were to fight Laxus.
I saw her sneak attack Natsu, sure, doesn’t mean much. Sneak attacks almost always work. August did it to Brandish, Cana did it to Brandish, Mest did it to Brandish. It also happens to most other characters too, Brandish just has so many examples. Nah, we know she can sneakily get her opponents organs when they’re not looking. Invel managed to instafreeze Natsu too, and Ice Lock Gray, we haven’t seen either used in combat though, just as we haven’t seen Brandishs organ bust used in combat. So I can safely ignore it.

Saying Brandish can organ bust Laxus in a fight is like saying Mest can mindrape Brandish in a fight and make her kill herself.

Fraid not. Gray hadn’t met any member of FT outside team Natsu and Juvia since before the one year time skip, which means he can only know the mp of team Natsu and preskip FT. Mirajane, Laxus and Gildarts could all have Spriggan plus MP.

As for Laxus feats that say otherwise, casually dropping a nuke, which is pure magic and no physicals, that can outright kill a spriggan in one hit according to their strongest and most knowledgeable member, does sorta imply he has not only greater mp, but far greater mp.

No it isn’t, and you can’t provide a single panel that says it is. But even if it was, it doesn’t matter, if you are stronger overall you win, the most powerful fighter always does.

Fair point

First of all, Brandish told Dimaria to wait. She knew the attack was coming and she couldn’t even finish her sentence before Dimaria stopped time. Oh wow, Dimaria has to click her teeth so that is not instantaneous? Lmao, people like you.... Neither is Laxus’ movement speed. He still has to move and by the time he reaches Brandish, she could have already shrunk him.

Stop downplaying Brandish. Give me a good reason why someone who can alter any mass cannot alter Laxus’ organs.

Brandish had a mock fight with Lucy and shrunk her and enlarged her multiple times. Heck, all she needs to do is shrink Laxus and she wins. A tiny Laxus isn’t defeating anyone lol he’ll just be an angry ant.

Laxus’ nuke nearly killing Ajeel doesn’t tell us he has Spriggan plus MP. It just shows us that Ajeel isn’t durable enough to tank it. Neinhart had Spriggan+ MP when he was enchanted and he was defeated with a PUNCH. Your reasoning sucks ass. You want Laxus to win so bad you didn’t even realise you fucked up LOL. Show me something that 200% shows Laxus has more MP than Brandish, who made Gray shit his pants.

Check chapter 500 and 510. Neinhart had too much MP since he was enchanted by Irene so Command T didn’t work on him.all that changed was that he got more MAGICAL POWER. He still got defeated with a PUNCH. Brandish couldn’t use Command T on Natsu’s END tumour after it had expanded. Why? Because it gave Natsu more MP.

Again, why would Command T, which can alter mass, have anything to do with speed, power, durability? It’s literally shrinking and expanding. It’s based on magic power and nothing else. Brandish will kill you if you don’t have more MP than she does. Hence why Command T didn't work on enchanted Neinhart but he got defeated by a punch....

How can the most powerful fighter overral win if their head pops like a balloon? Serious question.