Then you're suggesting it to the wrong person, I'm not the one who writes the story and dialogue, Oda does.
Oda's the one who wrote the story.
I can't make how something works complicated, I can only accept what the Manga says and the person who determines how powers works in the Manga is Oda.
So, you should speak to Oda regarding complexity and simplicity. Nothing I can do about it.
As you would say it yourself, pure headcanon. There are no facts to support what you wrote, just like there aren't any confirming/denying what I wrote.
No, there isnt any error in the theory so far. There has to be something specific that kills theory, something the prevents it from being even possible and such thing doesnt exist. Dont confuse your different beliefs as proof which kills my theory, it is just your belief, nothing about those things is 100% proven yet.
Well, that's because evidence proves you're wrong.
You said:
You wouldn't have said that if you didn't find it complex.
So, you're either lying or forgetful.
Then you're suggesting it to the wrong person, I'm not the one who writes the story and dialogue, Oda does.
Oda's the one who wrote the story.
I can't make how something works complicated, I can only accept what the Manga says and the person who determines how powers works in the Manga is Oda.
So, you should speak to Oda regarding complexity and simplicity. Nothing I can do about it.
False, I have provided evidence. You'd be delusional to say otherwise given that there are reference and citations to each point made.
That's dumb logic.
It's like saying there's no specific point that disproves that:
Zoro having 15 wives.
Luffy reads about Poneglyphs every night and actually understands it a lot more than Robin.
Nami steals Luffy's food when he's asleep and she's a slob.
No proof to prove or disprove, so to claim that a ridiculous theory requires counter-evidence, it's bad reasoning and logic.
If there's no hint or evidence regarding a theory, it's nonsense.
Has nothing to do with beliefs, your theory is just nonsensical given that it lacks hint or evidence.
Everything I've said is reference by hint and evidence.
Huge difference between a belief from wish as is your problem, and belief from evidence and hints.
How many times have you been wrong despite being sure in your arguments? I have seen it at least a couple of times.
Why do you think this time is any different?
I am not thinking of someone else, saw you being wrong several times despite previously being sure in your claims and having "facts"...
Bottom line, you are jumping the gun too soon. Nothing is confirmed yet, not your theory, not mine either. We have a different interpretation of the same story, beats me why would you be so sure in the correctness of your theory when you can be wrong as much as you can be right...
If the Manga says something regarding an idea, that's evidence.
To say otherwise is ignorant.
Evidence is not interpretation. Huge difference buddy.
Also no a matter of interpretation when the Manga says so itself. It's really simple English reading comprehension. If the Manga says the Sky is blue, there's no other way to take it other than it's blue. It's really not rocket science.
I ask you to provide evidence for your ludicrous claim, but you can't even provide evidence which is why your claim remains headcanon.
I am not thinking of someone else, saw you being wrong several times despite previously being sure in your claims and having "facts"...
Bottom line, you are jumping the gun too soon. Nothing is confirmed yet, not your theory, not mine either. We have a different interpretation of the same story, beats me why would you be so sure in the correctness of your theory when you can be wrong as much as you can be right...
Have a huge list of things that I've written that have all been confirmed due to the process I use. I have writings that prove my credibility. If my process was wrong, then there wouldn't be continous confirmation of things I've written, but contradictions.
Well manga said through Fujitora that Luffy is strong enough to beat Yonkos and Emperors and whoops, we saw that he isn't.
I guess it takes being ignorant to see obvious things.
Whenever I argued with you, your claims ended being incorrect. Too many times to name them all. Several of them yet to be confirmed like Luffy not going back to FI and WCI.
Whenever I argued with you, your claims ended being incorrect. Too many times to name them all. Several of them yet to be confirmed like Luffy not going back to FI and WCI.
It isnt wrong, he is not strong enough to fight them. Whether he lacks physical strength or Haki is irrelevant, he wasnt strong enough to fight them.
Kaido made that clear. You are unable to accept that you were wrong and that what manga says should be taken with a grain of salt but you stick blindly to it...
It's hopeless, you can't accept being wrong and every discussion leads to a dead end.
Luffy wouldn't be lifting rocks in Udon and getting buffed if he was strong enough...
Comparing Kaido to Crocodile who Luffy couldn't touch... WTF!!!
Defeating Kaido with a group of people isnt equal to being strong to defeat a Yonko singlehandedly.
Poor reading comprehension on your part.
I didn't compare Crocodile to Kaido if you're capable of reading what I said properly.
I referenced circumstances that related to Luffy losing, and then winning after.
Huge difference buddy.
Didn't say Crocodile and Kaido are the same strength.
Again, it's down to reading comprehension.
Poor reading comprehension on your part, I never said Kaido and Crocodile strength was same.
You compared Luffy losing to Crocodile(because he couldnt touch logia) to losing Kaido who he could touch and landed countless hits on.
It is a fact, shown in manga, that beats another "fact" from manga of Luffy being strong enough.
You are terrible to discuss with, twisting things around and debating irrelevant stuff.
I guess I am ignorant again for seeing the obvious. But do tell me that I am wrong and give some explanation that I couldn't care less about...
That's it for me on this topic. I am sure things will be clear once this arc is over.
I didn't make a comparison to how they fought. Clearly, you're a liar. Where did I make any claim regarding Luffy touching Crocodile as anything to do with Crocodile? Like I said, you're fallacious.
I said Luffy lost to Crocodile and still ended up winning when your point was that losing means he can't win. I referenced Luffy losing against an opponent and still ending up winning in the end. More or less referenced how Luffy's fights tend to playout. No need to twist and lie just to come across as making a valid point.
Facts do not contradict facts, that's not how facts work buddy, that's how opinion works. Google the word fact, a fact is something that is always true.
It only proves that Luffy losing a fight doesn't mean he loses the final fight or the conclusive fight. So, you're wrong.
I guess I am ignorant again for seeing the obvious. But do tell me that I am wrong and give some explanation that I couldn't care less about...
That's it for me on this topic. I am sure things will be clear once this arc is over.
I'll redact my statement regarding this panel, my interpretation of it was wrong.
What however isn't wrong is what he says.
He more or less says he's done running from Admirals and Emperors. Chapter 798's final page is more or less about Luffy saying he's done with Running.
Luffy initially says:
Context was he was supposed to run to the crew to escape. He however runs into Fujitora when Bartolomeo tells Luffy to run around Fujitora and avoid him.
What does Luffy do when told to run away? He says no, he refuses to run, running away was a thing he did 2 years ago because he was weak, and that patter has ended. He no longer has to run anymore. The entire theme is about being bold to challenge the Emperors and Admirals.
The next chapter starts off with Luffy saying what exactly? I'm not running anymore and Fujitora says he appreciates he has the strength to back his words following with "I appreciate your spirit" which also translates to guts in another translation.
Luffy was not talking about being strong enough to defeat the Emperors, and neither was Fujitora. Fujitora was saying that Luffy's bold enough to back up his claim to fight the Emperors and Admirals that people run away from.
In essence, what Fujitora is saying here is not wrong. What was wrong was my initial interpretation. The Manga is never wrong when it states anything as fact or proclamation.
What Fujitora is saying is since Luffy attacked him, he believes he's strong enough to back up his words about challenging the Emperors and Admirals whom he also is.
Interpretations can be wrong, but what the Manga says? It can't be wrong.
I'm presuming the point of you asking me this question is because you "believe" that Haki comes from the will or is a form of will?
I'll give you my reasons and I'll provide evidence.
For one, there's nowhere in the Manga where it's stated that Haki is Will or Willpower.
Many people think this and refer to this panel which ironically says otherwise. What that panel actually says is that people go through life never quite achieving their potential or discovering it. He's saying to never doubt is strength which is more or less Rayleigh saying that if he doesn't doubt himself, he can learn to use this power and confidence is power, not that not doubting/confidence is Haki. He's simply telling Luffy confidence in himself will allow him to use this power.
No where is it stated that Haki is Will.
Secondly, Will and Not Doubting one's self are 2 distinctly different things. Will is the choice to do something no matter how easy or difficult it is. An example of Will is showcased in Wano. Luffy's moving despite being weakened by Kairoseki. He shouldn't be able to move this well, but he chooses to push himself despite being weighted on by Kairoseki. That's will, the choice to persevere through hardship.
To not Doubt is not the same thing as Will. To not Doubt is Self Confidence or Belief... Will is not self-confidence or belief... Will is the choice to do something.
Also, Haki is limited, it can finish, it gets depleted, thus why Luffy has to charge it after he uses all of it. The fact that Haki is limited implies that Haki is not Will, why exactly? Will cannot be depleted. The choice to do something cannot be quantified. If Haki were "Will", then Haki would be unlimited and Luffy would be able to use it anytime.
Will on the other hand is not limited, Will cannot finish. Luffy can always rely on his Will because it's not quantified or finite, but Luffy can't use Haki all the time because it's finite and limited. Haki and Will are not the same thing.
Many character, if not all characters have will or great will power. Crocodile stuck to a plan for almost 2 decades to achieve his dream, it's not easy to stick to a plan that takes 12+ years to bear fruit, yet he can't use Haki. He has great will/will power, he however doesn't have Haki because they're not the same thing.
Haki is simply a power that people have and how much of it they have, how powerful it is and how quickly they awaken it is all based on talent, not willpower.
Facts do not contradict facts, that's not how facts work buddy, that's how opinion works. Google the word fact, a fact is something that is always true.
There's no truth, everything is limited to the author imagination. While Oda has been more consistent than other authors (*cof* Naruto *cof*), he's not perfect. That said, maybe you shouldn't take too serious a comic where the main characters can inflate his body without ripping off his clothes.
Again, irrelevant. That has nothing to do with the claim the Manga has no facts. It does.
As is the definition of fact. A thing that is known or proved to be true.
There are things that are known to be true in the One Piece story, to say otherwise is denial to simply put it.
It's a truth Emperors exist in the One Piece story.
It's a truth there is a governmental system known as the WG.
It's a truth that fruits that give powers exist.
It's a truth that Katakuri is Awakened.
These are all things that are known and proven to be true by the story and ultimately the author.
You've mistaken fiction as meaning facts don't exist when it simply means made-up.
The fact that you can even claim that someone is a DF user or Zoan, or can make any absolute statements like Kaido is an Emperor means you accept the truths that the story has presented, it's pretty hypocritical to claim facts don't exist when you acknowledge truths within the story and actually acknowledge them despite the fact you don't quite realise it for the sake of attempting to make an argument you thought valid that isn't valid.
Just because it doesn't suit your argument doesn't mean facts don't exist in fiction. It only betrays your double-standardness to change perspective when it suits your and deny them when it doesn't.
Stories can have facts, simple as that. The author chooses and makes up what is fact in the story.
Facts are based on objective reality. But there's no reality on fiction.
Examples of situations that can only occur in fiction:
- Usopp left the crew in Water Seven arc. But Nami got a new Clima-Tact from Usopp in Ennies Lobby arc.
- There are 3 types of Devil Fruits. But Katakuri was introduced as a Logia who doesn't use a natural element. So he was changed to "Special Paramecia" when the chapter was re-released.
Have you ever heard of similar situations in real life?
- Abraham Lincoln makes an announcement on TV this week, despite dying over a hundred of years ago.
- George Bush was the president of the US from 2001 to 2009. But since he was a bad president, it has been decided that the president from that period was Kim Kardashian.
Such situations never occur in real life. When Abraham Lincoln dies, he will never live again. The past cannot be changed, Kim Kardashian was never president.
If such situations were possible, the concept of "fact" would not exist, since reality could change on a whim. The word "fact" was invented to differentiate concepts that are bound to something.
