Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[revo68]

1.7 Million

 

[El Jacco]

David and Japan weren't given simulpubs from Viz either. Something tells me that they're not doing gag manga.

Those series were launched before Viz started to simulpub each new series.

Viz know it's a waste of energy, cuz it's an axe fodder genre in wsj

They already said in their podcast that they will simulpub it under the name Mitama Security: Spirit Buster.

They translated previous axed fodders as Higuma and others, why even stop with this.

 

[RingoRoadOnceMore]

It does?

I mean, if you like the series for its atmosphere, that's fine (one of the things I love most about the Bleach manga is the way Kubo can create tension or awe with a simple drawing). But the MCs from TPN, Seraph of the End, World Trigger, Inuyasha, Blue Exorcist, YYH, Bleach, Shaman King and a ton of other series also empathise with the species they are fighting / that killed their family. Hell, I'd even argue that it's MORE rare to see a shonen MC who DOESN'T do that, because I can't think of any.

Also, explaining the backstory of the enemies just before/after/while they are dying is something Bleach did a lot.

So I just want to throw in my two cents regarding Tanjirou as a MC. Of course, this is just my perspective, but there's something about the way Tanjirou empathizes with others that just... resonates with me on a different class than all the other MCs you mentioned. You're right that other MCs have that quality, but Tanjirou always felt very "authentic" and just so "sincere" to me, to the extent that I tear up and seriously wish there were more people like him in the world. That's the thing that stands out to me about him. I actually feel something when Tanjirou shows kindness to his enemies, and I really can't say I feel the same when I'm reading those other manga series. Just my thoughts on the matter though! It's all subjective.

 

[NeeNeen]

So I just want to throw in my two cents regarding Tanjirou as a MC. Of course, this is just my perspective, but there's something about the way Tanjirou empathizes with others that just... resonates with me on a different class than all the other MCs you mentioned. You're right that other MCs have that quality, but Tanjirou always felt very "authentic" and just so "sincere" to me, to the extent that I tear up and seriously wish there were more people like him in the world. That's the thing that stands out to me about him. I actually feel something when Tanjirou shows kindness to his enemies, and I really can't say I feel the same when I'm reading those other manga series. Just my thoughts on the matter though! It's all subjective.

That's a very good reason. I also sometimes have series/characters that really grab me, even though at first sight they don't seem different from any other shonen (hero).

(The last one that did this was Rin from Blue Exorcist. His introduction story isn't unique in any way, but I felt for him so strongly that I instantly ordered the entire series. This is what makes something an SS-class manga in my book.)

Unfortunately, Demon Slayer doesn't do this for me, and without that connection it really doesn't stand out much. I would struggle to describe the MC in a way that distinguishes him from other shonen protagonists, because (aside from the usual and the fact that he shows empathy) we just know so little about him. I couldn't even name one thing he likes to do when he's not fighting.

 

[pamuchi]

KnY Series has accumulated 10 million breakthrough

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鬼灭之刃 系列累计1..

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[NeeNeen]

This might be a stupid question, but is 'young' supposed to be older than 'shonen'?

Because I just noticed that pretty much all Weekly Young Jump readers are adults.

Shueisha Reveals New Circulation Numbers, Demographics for its Manga Magazines

Average print circulation for Weekly Shonen Jump in 2018 was 1.74 million

www.animenewsnetwork.com

 

[Rain Spectre]

This might be a stupid question, but is 'young' supposed to be older than 'shonen'?

Because I just noticed that pretty much all Weekly Young Jump readers are adults.

Shueisha Reveals New Circulation Numbers, Demographics for its Manga Magazines

Average print circulation for Weekly Shonen Jump in 2018 was 1.74 million

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Uh...yes. Young Jump is a seinen mag, best known for running Tokyo Ghoul, Kingdom, Kaguya-sama and Golden Kamuy.

 

[TJQ15]

This might be a stupid question, but is 'young' supposed to be older than 'shonen'?

Because I just noticed that pretty much all Weekly Young Jump readers are adults.

Shueisha Reveals New Circulation Numbers, Demographics for its Manga Magazines

Average print circulation for Weekly Shonen Jump in 2018 was 1.74 million

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Young as in young adult, they leave out some of the context with that title.

 

[ruggia]

This might be a stupid question, but is 'young' supposed to be older than 'shonen'?

"Young" is a demographic/publishing label set between shounen and seinen.

 

[Rain Spectre]

"Young" is a demographic set between shounen and seinen.

Okay, now I'm confused. So YJ series like Kingdom and Tokyo Ghoul aren't actually "seinen" by Jump's definition, they're more along the lines of just a mature readers line for the main publication?

 

[NeeNeen]

Okay, now I'm confused. So YJ series like Kingdom and Tokyo Ghoul aren't actually "seinen" by Jump's definition, they're more along the lines of just a mature readers line for the main publication?

Well... those two do seem more like darker shonen, don't they? Compared to something like Space Brothers, it feels pretty different.

Then again, Golden Kamui does feel like a full-blown seinen, so who knows.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Well... those two do seem more like darker shonen, don't they? Compared to something like Space Brothers, it feels pretty different.

Then again, Golden Kamui does feel like a full-blown seinen, so who knows.

Golden Kamuy is very often compared to Gintama in terms of tone and style, so honestly even it feels the bill of just being a mature readers book rather than something geared specifically at adults.

 

[ruggia]

Okay, now I'm confused. So YJ series like Kingdom and Tokyo Ghoul aren't actually "seinen" by Jump's definition, they're more along the lines of just a mature readers line for the main publication?

"Young" label for the most part is meant to cater towards the age group between "Shounen" (WSJ, WSM, Sunday, etc.) and "Seinen" magazines (Manga Action, Big Comic Spirits, Morning, etc).

It does get lumped together with the "Seinen" in the grand scheme of things, but for publishers that contain both labels in their lineup (or at least used to) like Kodansha and Shogakukan, they do serve as a loose boundary.

 

[Franz]

KnY Series has accumulated 10 million breakthrough

鬼灭之刃 系列累计1000万部突破【少年jump吧】_百度贴吧

鬼灭之刃 系列累计1..

tieba.baidu.com

Did Black Clover reach that figure ?

 

[Rain Spectre]

Did Black Clover reach that figure ?

Most recent figure for it was 9M.

 

[Franz]

Most recent figure for it was 9M.

And since then ? No data ?

 

[RafGL]

And since then ? No data ?

It was on its lastest volume in July iirc.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

-Neverland is at 13 million
-Kimetsu is at 10 million

I wonder if Kimetsu will be able to beat Neverland in million copies in circulation at the rhytm both of them are going.

 

[Franz]

-Neverland is at 13 million
-Kimetsu is at 10 million

I wonder if Kimetsu will be able to beat Neverland in million copies in circulation at the rhytm both of them are going.

It depends on which of the two will end first.

However I am always of the opinion that the Kimetsu boost will run out by the end of the year.

 

[RafGL]