Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[GL_Nova]

Huh? What are you talking about? How am I shaming myself? I said Makarov is weak and I stand by what I said. Him having high amount of MP doesn’t mean he is the strongest in the guild.

She didn’t use it against Jenny because she didn’t want to. She didn’t use it against Seilah because she didn’t want to. Mira was never in any fight where she needed to spam nukes, it doesn’t mean she can’t.

Loki and Taurus are both strong physically. They have the raw strength that’s needed.

Ajeel was hit with a Jupiter cannon a day or two before he fought Elfman and Lisanna. How was he not weakened? Lisanna>Yukino idk what you’re talking about. Also the Ajeel fight was offscreened so we have no idea what happened. For all we know, Lisanna tanked multiple of Ajeel’s attacks. Also Lisanna wasn’t knocked out when Etherious Seilah was thrashing Mira and Lisanna was in the background. Her durability is no joke yet Lucy one shot her but the same nuke left Mira unfazed. Stop sleeping on Mira’s durability.

Mirajane ALEGRIA is a fanfic even though Mirajane literally said with words whilst explaining Mirajane ALEGRIA that she absorbed all the Tartaros demons and souls after the battle with Tartaros, this creating Mirajane ALEGRIA? Do you even pay attention to the story? There is no such thing as Mirajane Plutogrim. The form is all the Tartaros souls AND Plutogrim and that’s a canon fact. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go reread chapter 492 or rewatch the final season episode 27.

You’re an idiot if you think Macro would work on every single soldier. Do you think Macro has the capacity to work on hundreds or thousands of people at once when Seilah never used it on more than 6 people at once? Use your brain. There’s no reason why Kagura would not be effected by it in a freaking one vs one fight. The only reason it didn’t work on the fodder soldiers was obviously because Macro has either a capacity limit or radius limit, anyone with a brain would be able to tell that much. Unless the fodder soldiers behind the sleeping ones were stronger than the sleeping ones or the fodder soldiers were too strong for Mira, which wouldn’t make sense at all considering all the fodder soldiers are the same and Mira is a tier unreachable to those soldiers. Use your brain, the curse itself is obviously limited depending on how many people it’s being used on. It would work fine on Kagura who isn’t in a tier higher than Mira, so Kagura logically should be affected by Macro. She’s not shrugging off Macro that stopped Erza and Minerva in their tracks and forced them to strangle themselves.

Mira knocked out a lot of the fodder soldiers instantly whilst others were not affected at all. That’s literally a limitation of the curse. Why would some of them get knocked out immediately whilst the others were unaffected? My God, when it comes to Mira nobody uses their brain for some reason.

Huh? It is a good feat to blitz someone that’s scared. Because you’re strong enough to scare them senseless then blitz. The same thing would happen to Minerva and Kagura as they’d have no idea hat Mirajane Alegria was a thing and it’s the strongest demon Mira possesses in terms of magic output and damage output. Even then, just because you’re scared doesn’t mean you can’t react. Mira was still too fast for JnH who were both BSS and competent fighters.

Mira defeated a Spriggan whilst she was weakened. Show me Kagura in the final season defeating anyone close to Mira’s level. Kagura’s GMG feats are outdated in canon and that’s a fact. Jacob underestimated Mira by thinking he could defeat her with closed eyes. He was wrong and he lost to a weakened Mira.

Pushing Sting down into his shadow doesn’t mean Kagura would be able keep him down. Also, Mira>Sting so I don’t understand what your point is lol.

Lol Larcade and Dimaria scared the crap out of Kagura, Mirajane Alegria would do the same. Juliet and Heine used to live near Spriggan's yet Mirajane Alegria scared the shit out of them. I wonder why?

Historia Wahl and Historia Bloodman fell after Neinhart lost. It’s inconclusive.

You’re trying to say that Kagura>Mirajane=Minerva even though Mirajane has better EoS feats? How can Mira be weaker than Kagura when she has been shown to be stronger? We don’t even know if Minerva defeated Historia Wahl and that’s her ONLY feat in the final season. Mirajane one shot Irene’s enchanted swords who were BSS level and killed hem then Mira beat an assassin in h2h combat. Show me Kagura defeating anyone in the EoS that scales to Mira. Show me something conclusive that shows that Minerva defeated Historia Wahl. Also I don’t know how Minerva defeating Historia Wahl is more impressive than a weakened Mira defeating Jacob lol bye.

The real ranking by feats is Erza>Mirajane>Kagura=Minerva then any girl after them because it doesn’t really matter.

Why would Bloodman NOT be able to use the Curses to their best potential when he was created by Zeref just like the Nine Demon Gates? Why didn’t he even bother to use all his curses. Use your brain.

I'm honestly wondering how he thinks Pre SO Erza lvl characters are anywhere near GMG+ Mirajane let alone Current Mirajane and how the one who was fodderize by every S12 she met is above a person who beat an S12 lol.

People really try to downplay Mira vs Jacob but turn around and hype Laxus vs Wall when they are practically the same lol.

Did you just compare Laxus vs Wahl to Mira’s joke fight? You can’t be serious.

 

[Jko]

Did you just compare Laxus vs Wahl to Mira’s joke fight? You can’t be serious.

How?

Laxus:
-Sick
-Lightning disadvantage

Wall:
-Goes retarded
-Doesn't use his best ability

Mira:
-Was beat up
-1-5% magical power disadvantage

Jacob:
-Closed his eyes
-Didn-t use his best ability

The fact you guys ignore Mira's feat yet hype Laxus' feat is pure fanboyism.

 

[One4All]

As much as I love Mira's power and saddened of her being underused in most of the arcs, I can't really say that she is much better than Erza. I will base this on those fights shown in the entire series and not just on assumption. Most of the time,hype is not a good thing in FT,some villains were overhyped that you will believe they can give extreme battle against the protagonists only to get fodderized or underwhelmed later on(some Spriggans are disappointment IMO).

Mira could have gotten a decent battle in Alvarez arc but Hiro just gave her a not so impressive feat. Juliet & Hyne were not really impressive tbh, their feat was only on Jet,Droy,Nab which are fodder level in FT. For me,they are just arrogant villains believing they could deafeat Mira and Makarov easily just because they are enchanted by Irene,they may be on higher level than all of the underlings of every spriggan but they are not on a spriggan level. Rather than comparing Laxus vs Wahl, I think Mira vs Jacob was much more comparable with Lissana&Elfman vs Ajeel. Their fights were mostly off-screen and at that point the final arc was obviously rushed that Hiro got lazy and didn't even gave both a decent fight. Their fight was for us to assume and imagine. So for me, both fights were not comparable to Laxus' feat.

The final arc mostly showcased the newer forms of Mira and not the full potential of it. Sad but true.

 

[Axiomus]

Jacob's hand to hand combat doesn't even stack up to Wall's with his eyes opened. What do you think will happen to Lucy if Wall hit her with every shot he hit Laxus with? Now count the number of times Jacob landed a shot on Lucy. How much damage did that do? Laxus killed Jacob with the first attack that Wall wasn't immune to. Mirajane simply edged out a knockout over Jacob.

Laxus fought someone stronger and did more damage.

 

[Seven777]

Are we actually comparing Laxus to Mira lol? The only reason Wahl survived more than two seconds was because Laxus had to set up his enchantment and trick Wahl into curing him, something he did while dying of MBPs and kicking Wahl's ass throughout the majority of the fight. If Laxus wanted to he couldve killed Wahl the moment the fight began, just like with Ajeel.

Mira beating Jacob while exhausted is a good feat, but Laxus was visibly far more exhausted when he killed Wahl. MBPs were already killing him when the fight began.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Most of( if not all ) the Spriggan fights were won thanks to total plot armor, nerfing the villains or/and their sadism towards the protagonists.


And besides,I know I will get major hate for this, I honestly doubt Laxus would have one-shot Ajeel. He have would taken heavy damage, but then again, doesn't he have his sand body ability? If wind and water counter him, shouldn't he like have resistance towards lighting? XD

 

[Jko]

More skilled then Jacob in H2H-> Jacob fought both Natsu snd Lucy at the same time and dominated with just pure skill... -> Wall was never noted for H2H ability

What would happen to Lucy if Wall had hit her?-> Nothing -> You think the MC will get killed? -> He misses every single lethal shot just like he did against Laxus.

Only edged out Jacob -> Mira beat Jacob as soon as she could use her magic lol.


Visibly more exhausted -> Only gets effected half way through the fight by MCBs -> Still can use his magic throughout the entire fight -> While Mira was out of magic throughout her fight till the end.

 

[Axiomus]

Jacob was only dominating Natsu and Lucy when the strongest attack that Natsu used was equivalent to a Lucy kick. When things actually got serious, Makarov's punch floored Jacob and demolition fist knocked Jacob out cold. Wall's punches were sending Laxus flying through the streets. That speaks for itself.

Even if you don't think Lucy would be killed by Wall's attacks, she would get wrecked. It would be worse than when Brandish turned her Aqua Metria back on her. It would probably be at least as damaging as when Kyria roared at her, which knocked her out. "Nothing" was what happened when Jacob hit her. Lucy was in good enough shape to consider following Natsu into fighting August.

The point is that Mirajane didn't kill Jacob like Laxus did. Again, the only reason Mirajane was even exhausted is because she used up all her power fighting Juliet and Heine. I actually disagree with Laxus being more exhausted than Mirajane. Laxus was never running low on magic power. Never ran out of power nuking Ajeel. Never ran out of power killing Wall. Never ran out of power beating Hades. Didn't even run out of power after getting beat up by Acnologia. The majority of the magic power that Wendy enchanted into Natsu probably came from Laxus. What was handicapping Laxus during his fight with Wall was the anti magic particles causing him organ failure. A lack of magic power was never his issue.

 

[Seven777]

Laxus' fight with Wahl only actually started when he used Red Lightning, before that he was just setting up his enchantment and leading Wahl around. So when I say Laxus was visibly more exhausted(I mean physically) when he killed Wahl, I mean right at the moment his MBPs were cured, because thats when the fight started. So yeah, Laxus was more exhausted in his fight with Wahl than Mirajane was, and he still killed Wahl with one attack.

I don't think Jacob is as low tier as most people do, I was actually pretty impressed with him, and sure, Mira was handicapped in her fight, but so was Jacob, to the extent Mashima felt the need to mention it. It's enough for me to say Mira is more or less equal to him, but Laxus had as big of a handicap, if not bigger, and still absolutely dominated his spriggan opponent, while dying of MBPs and secretly setting up an enchantment. He is in an entirely different league to Mirajane and most spriggans. The fact that Wahl was killed by the only one of Laxus' attacks that he wasn't immune to, and that Ajeel was nearly killed by a casual nuke just shows how wide the gap is between Laxus and those on Mirajane's level.

 

[GL_Nova]

An the thing is both of those factors put together would make his feats impressive even if they were both only low tier Spriggan. Except people seem to downplay that Wahl was present on two separate fronts he was able to generate a mechias dummy powerful enough to register as a Spriggan alongside Brandish and Ajeel for the first battle of the Arc. Who was in turn able to create bots to inconvenience the Strauss siblings, Gruvia, and the Thunder Legion. Wahl also has some impressive AOE feats and distance feats himself. An a healthy Laxus no diffs him. Kills him in one blow. Which only gives further credence to August’s assessment of how his nuke on Ajeel would have turned out, which was a no named spell in comparison. Twice he no diffed Spriggans, and the one who didn’t have the General’s protection died. We only see him again because of Historia, and he’s able to give Minerva a pressed battle, and we know historias weren’t as powerful.

 

[Arjuna]

Most of( if not all ) the Spriggan fights were won thanks to total plot armor, nerfing the villains or/and their sadism towards the protagonists.


And besides,I know I will get major hate for this, I honestly doubt Laxus would have one-shot Ajeel. He have would taken heavy damage, but then again, doesn't he have his sand body ability? If wind and water counter him, shouldn't he like have resistance towards lighting? XD

Well August said so and August is a reliable person to know how strong Ajeel is and his abilities so I think we take that nuke would have really heavily injured and incapacitated him if not outright killing.

 

[GL_Nova]

Well August said so and August is a reliable person to know how strong Ajeel is and his abilities so I think we take that nuke would have really heavily injured and incapacitated him if not outright killing.

Why? I meant what would turning to sand do? We literally just saw Laxus evaporate a ton of sand moments before. The only thing suggesting it wouldn’t is a boast from a guy who lost to Elfman and Lisanna.

 

[Arjuna]

Why? I meant what would turning to sand do? We literally just saw Laxus evaporate a ton of sand moments before. The only thing suggesting it wouldn’t is a boast from a guy who lost to Elfman and Lisanna.

Why are you countering me?Did I say Sand will defend Ajeel? Please read carefully what i wrote before replying to me.

 

[Seven777]

August's opinion is objective, unlike Ajeel's, plus he's a far superior mage. But even if I were for some insane reason to believe Ajeel was as good a source of information on magic as August, August's opinion is still more valid in this scenario, because August actually experienced Laxus' attack, while Ajeel merely saw it coming(while shitting his pants).

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Well August said so and August is a reliable person to know how strong Ajeel is and his abilities so I think we take that nuke would have really heavily injured and incapacitated him if not outright killing.

Well ,then again , in the next panel he claims August is getting senile? It comes down to who you believe more. Would Ajeel have died? IMo not, but would he have been heavily injured? Ofc

 

[Arjuna]

Well ,then again , in the next panel he claims August is getting senile? It comes down to who you believe more. Would Ajeel have died? IMo not, but would he have been heavily injured? Ofc

Well the guy who said that he can solo Ishgar is far less believable than a wise experienced person isn't it?

 

[Brandish μ]

August was born knowing everything. Or, knowledge comes to him easily. I can't remember that explanation, not sure it was a part of his repertoire early in the arc either.

 

[MangerDan]

August was born knowing everything. Or, knowledge comes to him easily. I can't remember that explanation, not sure it was a part of his repertoire early in the arc either.

He wasn’t born knowing everything his magic power was just large enough for him to remember things like Mavis and zeref from his memories.

 

[GL_Nova]

Why are you countering me?Did I say Sand will defend Ajeel? Please read carefully what i wrote before replying to me.

I’m not countering you I’m chiming in after you.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 16, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 16, 2019 ---

Well ,then again , in the next panel he claims August is getting senile? It comes down to who you believe more. Would Ajeel have died? IMo not, but would he have been heavily injured? Ofc

Wait, your counter is August might be senile?

 

[Ratrace]

Jacob was only dominating Natsu and Lucy when the strongest attack that Natsu used was equivalent to a Lucy kick. When things actually got serious, Makarov's punch floored Jacob and demolition fist knocked Jacob out cold. Wall's punches were sending Laxus flying through the streets. That speaks for itself.

Even if you don't think Lucy would be killed by Wall's attacks, she would get wrecked. It would be worse than when Brandish turned her Aqua Metria back on her. It would probably be at least as damaging as when Kyria roared at her, which knocked her out. "Nothing" was what happened when Jacob hit her. Lucy was in good enough shape to consider following Natsu into fighting August.

The point is that Mirajane didn't kill Jacob like Laxus did. Again, the only reason Mirajane was even exhausted is because she used up all her power fighting Juliet and Heine. I actually disagree with Laxus being more exhausted than Mirajane. Laxus was never running low on magic power. Never ran out of power nuking Ajeel. Never ran out of power killing Wall. Never ran out of power beating Hades. Didn't even run out of power after getting beat up by Acnologia. The majority of the magic power that Wendy enchanted into Natsu probably came from Laxus. What was handicapping Laxus during his fight with Wall was the anti magic particles causing him organ failure. A lack of magic power was never his issue.

Natsu and Lucy went with Brandish and Mest to try to negotiate with August