Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Jovan]

New Jump+ serialization round, first one seems to be a collaboration between 4 people, wow.

 

[Halloween]

New poll is up.

 

[Aipom626]

New Jump+ serialization round, first one seems to be a collaboration between 4 people, wow.

Is that first one an original series, or is it based off of something preexisting (a novel, movie, etc)? The second one looks like it could be interesting too.

 

[Franz]

People are betting that it will sell, like 100k or more, despite the obnoxious ranking.
But remember that we are prohibited to talk about this, so I will not go any further.

Samurai 8 is difficult to make predictions, it depends on how the promotion is also in the manga store in Japan. He could also go top or sell "only" 20k, but it will hardly be a failure.

On sales, I don't really think that Samurai 8 will appear in the top ten, because it means that in three days every volume should sell at least between 30k and 40k, impossible

Even with 100K it still wouldn't get in the top 7. There's also JJK besides those 6. This is quite a bloated month.

Oh right, I forgot Jujutsu....

So

1) One Piece

2) Neverland

3) Kimetsu

4) Spy x family

5) Soma

6)Black Clover

7) Jujutsu

 

[tirakai]

New Jump+ serialization round, first one seems to be a collaboration between 4 people, wow.

Is that second one some weird Psycho-Pass spin-off, or is the title just entirely a crazy coincidence? Or deliberate to trick people for some reason? The name could be Good Morning Psycho-Pass, or it could just be completely unrelated and titled Good Morning Psychopath.

 

[Jovan]

Is that first one an original series, or is it based off of something preexisting (a novel, movie, etc)? The second one looks like it could be interesting too.

No idea. Also the last newbie (Yoru wo Higashi ni) was a oneshot back in August 2017!! Damn. Took two years for a serialization.

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[Tymano]

New Jump+ serialization round, first one seems to be a collaboration between 4 people, wow.

Now we take guesses as to which of these (probably none of them) will be on Mangaplus.

 

[Halloween]

Considering how close we are to Samurai 8's first two volumes being released, I'm going to remove the discussion ban.

Everyone, feel free to comment on the series in whatever way you like. However, and this is vital. Everyone is still required to remain civil.

If it turns into a shitshow again, I'll place it back into effect.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Is that second one some weird Psycho-Pass spin-off, or is the title just entirely a crazy coincidence? Or deliberate to trick people for some reason? The name could be Good Morning Psycho-Pass, or it could just be completely unrelated and titled Good Morning Psychopath.

I like an how actual Psycho Pass series is starting about 2 and a half weeks after. Assuming it isn't connected I hope we get it since it does seem interesting from that visual (and assuming the name is supposed to be "Good morning Psychopath"

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On Samurai 8 I think it will sell pretty well at first then drop off. If I'm remembering correctly that's what Robo did and I think it will have a similar path.

 

[Neala897]

I like an how actual Psycho Pass series is starting about 2 and a half weeks after. Assuming it isn't connected I hope we get it since it does seem interesting from that visual (and assuming the name is supposed to be "Good morning Psychopath"

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On Samurai 8 I think it will sell pretty well at first then drop off. If I'm remembering correctly that's what Robo did and I think it will have a similar path.

Same. But I suspect it worse will happen they might just move it to SQ

 

[Jovan]

I want to see the poll of everyone's guesses, when is the poll going to show up? The volumes are almost out.

What did RxL v1 sell for reference? Since that was the last big new flop series by a hit creator to set the bar of what to expect (I know we currently have Yui Kamio but it's been a while since Nura ended, Shiibashi had another flop in between, and Nura was never a top front runner in sales anyway).

Robot x Laserbeam at least lasted more than a year with OK sales which were falling. A disappointment compared to Kuroko of course, can't call it a flop in a traditional sense though. In any other magazine, this would have lasted long (just see Fumetsu no Anata E/Hitman/Orient being down from the heights of A Silent Voice/Kimi no Iru Machi/Magi on WSM, or Kimi wa 008 being very down from Kenichi, or Tonikaku from Hayate no Gotoku on WSS)
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[Roacher]

Ok, In your opinion which currently Jump series are most popular currently at West.
For me
MHA> OP > Haikyuu = Kimetsu > Promised Neverland > rest.

I think MHA is more popular at west than OP especially at USA becouse MHA is curently best selling manga there.

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I think Kimetsu is more popular than Haikyuu but at the other side Haikyuu is older and have multiple seasons so had more time to gather fans. Haikyuu is disadvantage becouse west/USA overall don't like sport.

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[Koni]

It’s a tough matchup between 41k-80k and 81k-120k. This is the first volume of Samurai 8, so it will sell quite a bit probably due to Kishi’s name alone.

I chose the latter, mainly looking at the sales of Robot x Laserbeam and Boruto for a point of reference. It’ll probably fall in between, closer to RxL.

Ok, In your opinion which currently Jump series are most popular currently at West.
For me
MHA> OP > Haikyuu = Kimetsu > Promised Neverland > rest.

I think MHA is more popular at west than OP especially at USA becouse MHA is curently best selling manga there.

Manga Dominates U.S. Book Sales in November 2018

Manga sales have been stronger than ever as 2018 has ushered in a new wave of ultra popular anime [...]

comicbook.com

I think Kimetsu is more popular than Haikyuu but at the other side Haikyuu is older and have multiple seasons so had more time to gather fans. Haikyuu is disadvantage becouse west/USA overall don't like sport.

Answerman - Why Do Sports Anime Bomb In North America?

The idea that sports anime "bomb" in America is an old truism that still has some truth to it - even though we've seen some pretty big exceptions in recent history. Justin explains the phenomenon, and how things are changing.

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Out of the currently running series that have or had an anime, I’d say:
MHA (It’s really popular, and it has been since 2017)
One Piece (It’s been fairly popular for a really long time)
Demon Slayer (It’s really popular, but longevity needs to be tested)
Black Clover (Fairly popular, long form anime helps with relevancy)
Neverland (Fairly popular, yet isn’t talked about as much due to seasonal nature, we’ll see how Season 2 does)
Dr. Stone (Fairly popular, but not really big)
Yuuna (Does anybody outside of anime circles even know what Yuuna is?)

 

[Franz]

On Samurai 8 I think it will sell pretty well at first then drop off. If I'm remembering correctly that's what Robo did and I think it will have a similar path.

Are you really comparing Kishimoto to Fujimaki?

 

[vinceled]

I think S8 will sell between 50-100k for the first two volumes but that the sales are going to drop starting volume 3. I don't really see the series surpassing what RxL did in terms of sales.

 

[Leoat12]

New Jump+ serialization round, first one seems to be a collaboration between 4 people, wow.

The second one was the one that picked my interest more just by the art, but I don't know what they mean by the title...

 

[Caiops]

My prediction is 100k-110k.

More or less what Platinum End did.

 

[Ctkk]

Ok, In your opinion which currently Jump series are most popular currently at West.
For me
MHA> OP > Haikyuu = Kimetsu > Promised Neverland > rest.

I think MHA is more popular at west than OP especially at USA becouse MHA is curently best selling manga there.

Manga Dominates U.S. Book Sales in November 2018

Manga sales have been stronger than ever as 2018 has ushered in a new wave of ultra popular anime [...]

comicbook.com

I think Kimetsu is more popular than Haikyuu but at the other side Haikyuu is older and have multiple seasons so had more time to gather fans. Haikyuu is disadvantage becouse west/USA overall don't like sport.

Answerman - Why Do Sports Anime Bomb In North America?

The idea that sports anime "bomb" in America is an old truism that still has some truth to it - even though we've seen some pretty big exceptions in recent history. Justin explains the phenomenon, and how things are changing.

www.animenewsnetwork.com

I think OP might be tied with MHA considering the last few chapters have been trending and their subreddits have comparable numbers. It's hard to tell because their communities are very different I feel. With MHA, there are lot more anime-onlies, so I think there's a good chance the episodes of S4 also become global trends. I think maybe OP is still bigger within the anime/manga community, but MHA reaches beyond that into the mainstream, since it's more accessible because you don't have to watch 900+ episodes to catch up.

 

[Roacher]

I think OP might be tied with MHA considering the last few chapters have been trending and their subreddits have comparable numbers. It's hard to tell because their communities are very different I feel. With MHA, there are lot more anime-onlies, so I think there's a good chance the episodes of S4 also become global trends. I think maybe OP is still bigger within the anime/manga community, but MHA reaches beyond that into the mainstream, since it's more accessible because you don't have to watch 900+ episodes to catch up.

How even OP anime doing? There so many years I watched it. I heard that people complain about animation and pacing.

 

[Leoat12]

One Piece is only for the strongest ones at this point, no casual fan will read or watch 900+ chapters or episodes to catch up with it. Indeed, My Hero Academia is much more accessible because of the short anime. I think Shueisha should start doing a reboot of One Piece anime based on arcs with modern and better animation, etc.