Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Tamil]

Kimetsu no Yaiba is less impressive because it is in anime boost right now, but Spy x Family has 14 chapters! 14! It is selling 300k now the first volume?
That's what good content can do.

Quality is subjective...I dont find SxF to be as amazing as people say it is. The success is certainly impressive though, I may give the edge to KnY as the series came from having its first volume not even being ranked to now being a huge hit.

 

[Rain Spectre]

20-30k debut would be lower than RxL as well, right?

Yeah, it would be. And RxL didn't have the amount of backing S8 did.

 

[101nemesis]

If I'm not mistaken, Illegal Rare debuted with 20-30k as well.
Lets see if this manages to go higher than that to 40-50k by improving over the next few days.

 

[Rain Spectre]

In less depressing/apprehensive news, bookstores apparently have been having to limit copies of Kimetsu to just one per person because of how popular they are. Holy shit.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Are people scalping copies of Demon Slayer? The only other reason I can think to buy more than one copy is one for reading and one for saving in which case why not just buy digital for reading?

 

[Tamil]

Are people scalping copies of Demon Slayer? The only other reason I can think to buy more than one copy is one for reading and one for saving in which case why not just buy digital for reading?

Collection purpose I guess

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Are people scalping copies of Demon Slayer? The only other reason I can think to buy more than one copy is one for reading and one for saving in which case why not just buy digital for reading?

If i remember well a fan of the P2! manga (old ping pong manga on Jump) bought like over 10 copies of the same volume, the picture was posted here.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Wow people just find any thing to downplay Samurai 8

 

[Rain Spectre]

Wow people just find any thing to downplay Samurai 8

It under-preformed.

It's sales are not terrible for a Vol 1, but, based on the data we have, it's not fulfilling the expectations placed on it as Kishimoto's followup to Naruto.

What are we downplaying.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

It under-preformed.

It's sales are not terrible for a Vol 1, but, based on the data we have, it's not fulfilling the expectations placed on it as Kishimoto's followup to Naruto.

What are we downplaying.

Well the amt of hate and trash talking it got I thought it wouldn't even touch the 50th rank but still it's in 30 for vol 1 and 40 for vol 2.
Good thing is that even someone like kishimoto is struggling just like a newbie.

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One thing you don't expect much from samurai 8 and at the same time say it should have been better because of kishimoto, such hypocrisy

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Wow people just find any thing to downplay Samurai 8

Just get used to it, the member above would find something negative even if Samurai 8 beat One Piece at the Shoseki rankings ;P

 

[Caiops]

I mean, RxL was cancelled doing much better than that.

 

[OniluapL]

Well the amt of hate and trash talking it got I thought it wouldn't even touch the 50th rank but still it's in 30 for vol 1 and 40 for vol 2.
Good thing is that even someone like kishimoto is struggling just like a newbie.

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One thing you don't expect much from samurai 8 and at the same time say it should have been better because of kishimoto, such hypocrisy

It's 30th in the daily ranking, which isn't really that great. It might go up in the weekend, ot might not. But that's the same position of act-age vol. 1, which didn't really start amazing. I'm not being negative for the sake of it, it's not trash talk to say that while it isn't terrible, it's disappointing. I know some people love to hate on the series at every opportunity, but not everything warrants such defensiveness. Again, it might go up, who knows.

 

[ChocoBar9]

My Hero Academia Wins Best Manga at Harvey Awards

Radiant was nominated for Best European Book, but loses to Waves

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Guess this is the first Jump manga to win one.

 

[Nemesis]

I have to agree. Samurai 8 doesn't seem to be bad but it's similar to Dr. Stone in that the sales are disappointing related to the push. Which to be fair, as far as Cover, color page and position in TOC, it actually was never pushed as Dr. Stone lol But otherwise, I think it has marketing outside of the magazine itself.

 

[Heiji]

We Never Learn 16th volume, out april 3, we'll have limited edition with OAD. Will be original episode write by mangaka.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

It's 30th in the daily ranking, which isn't really that great. It might go up in the weekend, ot might not. But that's the same position of act-age vol. 1, which didn't really start amazing. I'm not being negative for the sake of it, it's not trash talk to say that while it isn't terrible, it's disappointing. I know some people love to hate on the series at every opportunity, but not everything warrants such defensiveness. Again, it might go up, who knows.

I'll agree the first 6-7 chapters were boring and disappointing but after that now it's good and is getting better and better everyweek

 

[supercow297]

I think El Chavo is watched everywhere in Latin America still. Here in Brazil it rarely stay some weeks without reruns just to go back to airing. I think Chapolin is in a similar state as well

And talking about Gintama, I really love that manga. It's my favorite one ever and Gintoki is my favorite Jump protagonist (He is kinda similar to me and we ALMOST share birthdays). I was actually surprised when I saw that Gintama wasn't as universally praised as I thought it was, though. Looking at the part of the fandom I have most contact with, it seems kind of hit or miss. What do you guys think about the manga?

Favorite manga bar none. I've probably read thousands and consider my taste pretty damn good. Or at least matured now. it stole my number 1 spot from One Piece when I was 17, and one piece has taken number 1 for like 5 years, I thought that's never change.

Only seriously competing manga are Shingeki considering recent years, vinland saga considering mostly arc 1 and 2, and Gintama is my favorite fictional story, only competitors are Higurashi VN (100s of times better than the anime, like actually) and Dickens' bildungsromans, Great Expectations and David Copperfield.

I like human-feeling characters and character development a lot, among other things, and Gintama was a gold mine for that, among other amazing things.

People seem mixed on the influx of serious arcs but I loved them all until hiatus hell and the ending arc didn't get me to cry much which is rare for Gintama. But I'd already reread the series 3 to 5 times, reread certain arcs 12 to 15 times, watched those arcs 3 to 5 times, and watched reactors 5 to 10 times for those arcs so I had already experienced so much greatness a hedonic treadmill may have occurred.

All in all Sorachi said " if this manga is interesting to you at least on the first read through then I have managed to make my wishes come true" and since it's done that many times over, unless something else emotionally destroys me, Gintama is forever number 1 even if I can't feel the intense highs I used to with it.

I've already enjoyed it so much that I can't complain. In fact I'm very grateful. Same vibes as in the last chapter..
Some "fans" dislike humanizing the villains but I think that opinion is shit.

Gintama #1, most likely for life. If it is ever surpassed, it will always be a fondly remembered favorite.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Ok let me get it straight, there is a big difference between some random user on the internet and a big company.
The company doesn't just see how it's performing in it's initial stages despite the investments used on it, they are people who are capable of seeing beneath the surface they see the potential of the manga, where can the story go upto in future, what new experience can it give to the readers and many such factors before deciding to axe it.
So yes S8 I can't just see it getting axed soon

 

[Franz]

This is gonna get ugly.

And you say it because...