Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Thundercat27]

Just caught up with double taisei. This shit fucking rocks. No matter how this manga ends up to be, I will always remember it. Truly the misunderstood genius of our time.
Also, Hata is a fucking madlad.
Everyone should read this mad masterpiece. Or at least skip forward see other Tendo generation characters. Seriously, everyone has to read this manga.

 

[tirakai]

The guy clearly wants to make a gag manga and doesn't care about the shogi part. I have to wonder why he went for shogi in the first place.

 

[NeeNeen]

Abyss Rage is among the top viewed series in the app but with disastrous tankobon sales. Hence why the manga stopped with print releases and switched to online only volumes.

Just mentioning Jump+/MangaPlus series, Dear Sa-chan, Spotless Love, Curtain's Up, Arata Primal and Moon Land all have poor to horrible sales . I assume Moon Land is still alive thanks to the fact it's editor is also a Chainsaw Man/Spy x Family one, which are the 2 newbie highlights for Jump this year. Surely not because of the views, which are one of the lowest "per chapter" there from what I remember.

It's not the lowest, but it is pretty bad.


MangaPlus - Views per chapter from the last week(s):

(or for Boruto and Dragon Ball Super, views in the first week after the chapter was released because I couldn't use my previous data anymore after the crazy bumping)

Spoiler

(English)			(Spanish)
Boruto	366 582​		Boruto	302 085​
Spy x Family	182 325​		One Piece (n)	184 587​
One Piece (n)	168 255​		Dragon Ball Super	180 680​
Dragon Ball Super	165 709​		Kimetsu no Yaiba	55 899​
Kimetsu no Yaiba	78 741​		My Hero Academia	32 028​
My Hero Academia	39 629​		Spy x Family	29 188​
Tis Time for Torture, Princess	32 300​		Black Clover	18 001​
Chainsaw Man	32 073​		The Promised Neverland	16 062​
Summer Time Rendering	29 216​		Dr. Stone	15 892​
Blue Exorcist	26 752​		Hell's Paradise	10 327​
Seraph of the End	25 027​		Jujutsu Kaisen	10 222​
Yozakura Family	20 879​		Samourai 8	8 850​
Dr. Stone	20 621​		Platinum End	5 861​
The Promised Neverland	20 464​		World Trigger	5 078​
Black Clover	19 936​		Blue Flag
Samourai 8	19 917​		Heart Gear
World Trigger	19 609​
We Never Learn	18 826​
Jujutsu Kaisen	18 592​
Hell's Paradise	16 200​
Act-age	15 515​
Hinomaru Sumo (epilogue)	14 200​
Haikyuu	13 091​
Hina Change	10 494​
Tokyo Shinobi Squad	9 250​
Platinum End	8 775​
Dear Sa-chan	8 250​
Spotless Love	5 650​
Arata Primal	5 288​
Yui Kamio Lets Loose	3 654​
Mitama Security	3 535​
Double Taisei	3 533​
Moonland	3 420​
Beast Children	3 392​
Dricam	2 980​
Curtain's Up	2 475​
I'm from Japan	1 439​
Abyss Rage
Blue Flag
Dr. Stone Reboot
East, Into the Light
Heart Gear

 

[animeexpert]

flip flop world would never do th....

Kimetsu fans seeing this post about this anituber:


Lmao I cant stop laughing

 

[Jovan]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 11/01

#1 Haikyuu!! 40
#3 Dr. Stone 13
#4 We Never Learn 14
#9 Hana Nochi Hare 14
#11 Haikyuu-bu!! 1
#48 Mato Seihei no Slave 3
#70 Koigoku no Toshi 1
#76 Hidarikiki no Eren 10
#79 Heart Gear 2
#88 Koro-sensei Q 5
#91 Melt Away! Mizore-chan 4
#141 Hachurui-chan wa Idakanai 1
#164 Tokyo Shinobi Squad 2
#228 Hina Change 1
#250 Double Taisei 2
#325 The Last Saiyuki 3
#326 Kaibutsu Shoujo wa Hatsukoi no Yume wo Miru ka? 1
#366 Moon Land 4
#405 Beast Children 2

Haikyuu-bu seems to be a good performer for Jump+ and decent start for Koi Goku no Toshi.
Kaibutsu Shoujo and Hina Change flopped, while the Infamous Jump Newbie Trio all slipped even more. Yikes.

 

[supercow297]

Are there are good discussion threads for WSJ in general? I understand the clarification on the rules here but I wish there was some place on the internet for just discussing WSJ and all of its series in one place. I think there was Crunchyroll's TOC discussion but it was kinda dead when I came here, and of course 4chan's WSJ threads but those are mostly when spoilers for the whole magazine releases.

Any suggestions? Please spoon feed me.

 

[Jovan]

New reprint schedule

NEW 11/19 Mato Seihei no Slave Vol. 1-2
NEW 11/25 act－age Vol. 1-8
NEW 11/25 Jigokuraku Vol. 2-7

 

[TyVip]

they are prepping act age for Jump festa, perhap an announcement.

 

[Arjuna]

they are prepping act age for Jump festa, perhap an announcement.

Please please an anime announcement.

 

[Aipom626]

Just caught up with double taisei. This shit fucking rocks. No matter how this manga ends up to be, I will always remember it. Truly the misunderstood genius of our time.
Also, Hata is a fucking madlad.
Everyone should read this mad masterpiece. Or at least skip forward see other Tendo generation characters. Seriously, everyone has to read this manga.

Yeah, if the series could've removed all the pointless, confusing drama from the first volume and had the Tendo generation thing start around chapter 3, I think the series would've stood a much better chance at surviving. By the time it got good, too many potential readers were already scared off. Random fact I just learned the other day, but the author's older sibling is a tattoo artist, which may be why he seems to be able to do such excellent drawings for gothic lace clothing and piercings.

 

[supercow297]

they are prepping act age for Jump festa, perhap an announcement.

Source? Official AA Twitter?

 

[King Moe]

Light novel sales don't add to manga sales though,


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Btw i don't know if anyone knows this but it seems Naruto and Dragon Ball lost their third and second position in highest sales in manga history to Golgo manga.


It is a great feat for a dark & seinen manga.

I think they do especially to know backstory of one of OP's beloved characters.

Idk about that as DBS and Boruto are still selling and don't they count other merchandise into those sales from what I heard? Think they do.

Golgo though I am aware what's it is like and respect it being one of few manga series over 100 million Mark.

 

[Arjuna]

I think they do especially to know backstory of one of OP's beloved characters.

Idk about that as DBS and Boruto are still selling and don't they count other merchandise into those sales from what I heard? Think they do.

Golgo though I am aware what's it is like and respect it being one of few manga series over 100 million Mark.

That is added to light novel sales,light novels don't add to manga sales.


And Golgo reached 280 Million.

 

[Neala897]

I think they do especially to know backstory of one of OP's beloved characters.

Idk about that as DBS and Boruto are still selling and don't they count other merchandise into those sales from what I heard? Think they do.

Golgo though I am aware what's it is like and respect it being one of few manga series over 100 million Mark.

Well then we also should add Kimetsu novels sales. And those sold 400 000.

 

[Ryuusei]

I think they do especially to know backstory of one of OP's beloved characters.

Idk about that as DBS and Boruto are still selling and don't they count other merchandise into those sales from what I heard? Think they do.

Golgo though I am aware what's it is like and respect it being one of few manga series over 100 million Mark.

The merchandise counts for a completely different chart and last year OP came in third place on that chart. We are talking about manga sales here. Oricon wouldn't change its rules just so OP could benefit from them.

 

[animeexpert]

Just caught up with double taisei. This shit fucking rocks. No matter how this manga ends up to be, I will always remember it. Truly the misunderstood genius of our time.
Also, Hata is a fucking madlad.
Everyone should read this mad masterpiece. Or at least skip forward see other Tendo generation characters. Seriously, everyone has to read this manga.

Is that sarcasm or are you serious?

 

[Halloween]

Are there are good discussion threads for WSJ in general? I understand the clarification on the rules here but I wish there was some place on the internet for just discussing WSJ and all of its series in one place. I think there was Crunchyroll's TOC discussion but it was kinda dead when I came here, and of course 4chan's WSJ threads but those are mostly when spoilers for the whole magazine releases.

Any suggestions? Please spoon feed me.

While I understand your desire to discuss all the WSJ series in one topic, that sort of topic undermines the entire point of having designated sections on this website.

Why visit the KnY section (which just opened) when you can discuss everything you need to discuss outside of that section? And that goes for every other series and their sections.

Another problem with the idea is that, each section has designated moderators assigned to them. Having to moderate ALL series discussion in a single topic is too much for a single moderator, and actually invalidates the need for the other moderators.

Again, I understand what you're saying, but the logistics just don't work. The idea is to use the entire website, not just a single topic.

 

[RafGL]

they are prepping act age for Jump festa, perhap an announcement.

It's also just before Volume 9. I guess we can expect having a 2M announcement wraparound for the next volume aaaaaaaand it would be a really good timing to announce something at Festa. Let's cross fingers.

 

[Roacher]

Please please an anime announcement.

Imagine if AA instead anime get japanese live-action adaptation. Tell the truth I suspect AA besides anime at some point it gets live action and stage play.

 

[King Moe]

That is added to light novel sales,light novels don't add to manga sales.


And Golgo reached 280 Million.

You sure about that? As I read somewhere they add a lot of things to sales than just manga alone.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 2, 2019 ---

Well then we also should add Kimetsu novels sales. And those sold 400 000.

Not as much as compare to OP novel though if it's anything like manga volumes, then expect another 1 million - 2 millions+ added too.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 2, 2019 ---

The merchandise counts for a completely different chart and last year OP came in third place on that chart. We are talking about manga sales here. Oricon wouldn't change its rules just so OP could benefit from them.

Never said they are changing rules, but I heard they count more than manga sales in overall results on sales for an series, so thought that was the case on merchandise based of the manga that counted for it is what I am saying.

Again, I give props to DS, but don't see it as surpassing OP overall especially when it's not trying and it needed every volume to compete in trying to past it's yearly marks and Oda didn't do natural 4 volumes or more per-year compare to it's schedule. Just being realistic as I do see it one of the top series, but don't see it ever truly overcoming OP down the line.