Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[pamuchi]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

Oh my. It's like shuesha numbers were reversed.

 

[wothab]

Oh my. It's like shuesha numbers were reversed.

Its as if some intern mixed up the numbers when delivering it that day

 

[NyanPower]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba - 12,057,628

2. One Piece - 10,134,232

3. Kingdom - 7,661,361

4. The Promised Neverland - 7,454,745

5. The Quintessential Quintuplets - 5,895,000

6. My Hero Academia - 5,047,574

7. Attack on Titan - 4,704,234

8. Haikyuu!! - 4,514,838

9. Kaguya-sama - 4,096,492

10. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken - 3,414,482

 

[Aipom626]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

Ah, that sweet feeling seeing Gotoubun no Hanayome outsell My Hero Academia. Now it's time to see a bunch more pages about One Piece vs Kimetsu. Even if One Piece did actually beat Kimetsu, I would've still expected Kimetsu's number to be about what it was shown here.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

Sorry for always being ignorant. This is the only place where I can ask questions relating to things like this. Is this the final list of manga sales this year? Doesn't that mean Demon Slayer win?

Sorry again

 

[101nemesis]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

Either someone was trolling the editor or someone literally fucked up and told the editor the opposite numbers.


But great on KnY. What an achievement. Destroyed what MHA and TPN did. I believe every single volume is in the top 50 list, which is insane.
Also, yay to Kingdom for being so fucking stable for the past 3-4 years.

 

[savethecat]

Sorry for always being ignorant. This is the only place where I can ask questions relating to things like this. Is this the final list of manga sales this year? Doesn't that mean Demon Slayer win?

Sorry again

Yep. This is the official list, so the race to the top is finally over.

 

[Tamil]

Either someone was trolling the editor or someone literally fucked up and told the editor the opposite numbers.


But great on KnY. What an achievement. Destroyed what MHA and TPN did. I believe every single volume is in the top 50 list, which is insane.

Its close to being the opposite.

OP had 12.7 million
Kimetsu had 10.8 million

If it was the opposite I would let it slide, even if that is a pretty big goof. Now we wait for Shueisha's response lol

 

[savethecat]

Either someone was trolling the editor or someone literally fucked up and told the editor the opposite numbers.


But great on KnY. What an achievement. Destroyed what MHA and TPN did. I believe every single volume is in the top 50 list, which is insane.

I understand you meant no harm.
But I hope this doesn’t become a thing where people start the
“HA! Kimetsu did in 1 season what MHA couldn’t do with 3 seasons”, and “Neverland wishes it exploded as much” thing.
Every series in the top 10 are mega successful series. Shouldn’t be a rage war between fans over which series is more successful.

 

[101nemesis]

"Where were you - when KNY toppled One Piece to be the best selling manga of the year".

Me - "I was browsing MH forums and laughing at the comments."

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 27, 2019, Original Post Date: Nov 27, 2019 ---

I understand you meant no harm.
But I hope this doesn’t become a thing where people start the
“HA! Kimetsu did in 1 season what MHA couldn’t do with 3 seasons”, and “Neverland wishes it exploded as much” thing.
Every series in the top 10 are mega successful series. Shouldn’t be a rage war between fans over which series is more successful.

Eh no. I don't care which series does what. The remarkable feat is that KNY is a series that NONE of us (and probably Shueisha) expected to top what TPN and MHA did this generation. It's an actual tale of an underdog surpassing all expectations by miles. The stuff you'd see in something like Bakuman.

But yeah, it's probably gonna turn into a dick-measuring competition now for fans, which will be annoying.

 

[Tamil]

I understand you meant no harm.
But I hope this doesn’t become a thing where people start the
“HA! Kimetsu did in 1 season what MHA couldn’t do with 3 seasons”, and “Neverland wishes it exploded as much” thing.
Every series in the top 10 are mega successful series. Shouldn’t be a rage war between fans over which series is more successful.

Or saying that "One Piece took an L" which I know people are going to say.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

My bet for 2020 because yes:
1. One Piece
2. Kingdom
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. Haikyuu
6. Shingeki no Kyojin
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. 5toubun no Hanayome
10. SpyxFamily (or Slime doing the three-peat)

Saving this for late-november 2020.

 

[Avok]

This is going to be fun. Shueisha just added fuel to the fire by releasing their numbers.

 

[Tamil]

My bet for 2020 because yes:
1. One Piece
2. Kingdom
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. Haikyuu
6. Shingeki no Kyojin
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. 5toubun no Hanayome
10. SpyxFamily (or Slime doing the three-peat)

Saving this for late-november 2020.

I think Kimetsu will likely get another backlog boost from its movie so I doubt Kingdom can be #2 for 2020. Hell this current boost shows no sign of stopping and I think its growing by every week lmao

 

[savethecat]

It’s crazy to me how now almost everyone on twitter(specifically One Piece fans) is saying that Oricon is not a legit source for sales info, and it shouldn’t be used as fact, when in all of my time following manga, Oricon has always been the go to site regarding sales info

 

[Roacher]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

And ofcourse half of this list are WSJ titles.

 

[NyanPower]

This is going to be fun. Shueisha just added fuel to the fire by releasing their numbers.

Oricon knows what’s up with the tea

It’s crazy to me how now almost everyone on twitter(specifically One Piece fans) is saying that Oricon is not a legit source for sales info, and it shouldn’t be used as fact, when in all of my time following manga, Oricon has always been the go to site regarding sales info

Of course, because they want One Piece to stay #1
OP fans are incoherent, they follow Oricon Rankings for more than a decade and now they refuse to accept the ranking because their beloved manga is being surpassed, so they will say it’s fake of course, lol

 

[Rain Spectre]

It’s crazy to me how now almost everyone on twitter(specifically One Piece fans) is saying that Oricon is not a legit source for sales info, and it shouldn’t be used as fact, when in all of my time following manga, Oricon has always been the go to site regarding sales info

Don't forget that people suddenly starting acting like Oricon was just some aggregate site, and not a conglomerate that tracks the sales of literally everything in Japanese entertainment.

 

[Ryuusei]

Let it begin. The shitpost. https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/7/

Sitting here with my tea waiting for Shueisha's response. Also, congrats for KNY for being a humongous success, it made history.

My bet for 2020 because yes:
1. One Piece
2. Kingdom
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. Haikyuu
6. Shingeki no Kyojin
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. 5toubun no Hanayome
10. SpyxFamily (or Slime doing the three-peat)

Saving this for late-november 2020.

1. One Piece
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. Kingdom
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Shingeki no Kyojin
7. 5-toubun no Hanayome
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. Haikyuu!!
10. Tensura

 

[Serinox]

Per volume sales are also up: https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/5/

1. OP 91 - 2,388,243
2. OP 93 - 2,200,000
3. OP 92 - 2,112,734
4. OP 94 - 1,880,146
[3 AoT volumes]
8. KnY 17 - 926,446
9. KnY 16 - 877,366
[2 Kingdom volumes]
12. KnY 15 - 833,472
13. MHA 21 - 831,797
14. KnY 14 - 821,222
[another Kingdom volume]
16. TPN 12 - 801,584
17. MHA 22 - 775,064
18. TPN 14 - 741,903
19. HQ 35 - 698,372
[one OPM volume]
21. KnY 13 - 693,931
[March comes in like a Lion volume]
23. KnY 1 - 680,787
24. MHA 23 - 679,813
25. TPN 15 - 673,890
26. KnY 8 - 672,657
27. HQ 36 - 670,423
28. KnY 7 - 667,478
29. KnY 9 - 667,413
30. KnY 2 - 664,815
31. KnY 10 - 659,387
32. KnY 12 - 659,221
33. KnY 11 - 657,289
34. KnY 3 - 650,471
35. TPN 13 - 649,919
[another OPM volume]
37. MHA 24 - 639,932
38. KnY 4 - 638,068
[a Detective Conan volume]
40. KnY 5 - 635,642
41. KnY 6 - 634,828
42. HQ 37 - 628,313
[Slime, Quintuplets, and OPM volumes]
48. HQ 38 - 582,378
[another Slime & Quintuplets volume]