Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[westabyss]

So happy for KnY, i remember the days when nobody gave a single f about the manga and everyone telling me how generic and boring the series is. This is probably the most surprising hit i've ever witnissed since im following Jump which is 10 years. The success still feels unreal to me.

 

[Tamil]

So happy for KnY, i remember the days when nobody gave a single f about the manga and everyone telling me how generic and boring the series is. This is probably the most surprising hit i've ever witnissed since im following Jump which is 10 years. The success still feels unreal to me.

"bad art" is what they said iirc

 

[Kharthas]

In somewhat related news, Kimetsu LN also made it into top 10 of the year, with more than 400,000 units.

【2019年 年間本ランキング】樹木希林さん名言集が年間1位、『天気の子』『鬼滅の刃』ジャンル別制覇 12ページ目

『オリコン年間“本”ランキング』を発表。総合部門にあたる「BOOK」は、昨年9月に亡くなった女優・樹木希林さんの『一切なりゆき　樹木希林のことば』（123.6万部）が、唯一の100万部超えとなる圧倒的なセールスで1位を獲得。ジャンル別では、「コミック」は『ONE PIECE』が12年連続「単巻」1位となったほか、アニメ人気で売り切れ続出の『鬼滅の刃』が作品別で初の1位を獲得。「文庫」は、新海誠監督が『天気の子』原作小説で自身2度目の1位。「写真集」は、生田絵梨花が年間売上記録で女性ソロ作品歴代1位を記録。 12ページ目

www.oricon.co.jp

 

[Thundercat27]

There was one really significant event involving another country happening in that time period, but no one would never have the balls to touch on that.

Yeah, almost forgot about that I guess I was almost successfully brainwashed by Japanese media , and just like you said, but I think most of them don't even know or bother to know about it.

OH NO NO NO NO AHHAHAHAHAHAH


1. Kimetsu no Yaiba - 12,057,628

2. One Piece - 10,134,232

3. Kingdom - 7,661,361

4. The Promised Neverland - 7,454,745

5. The Quintessential Quintuplets - 5,895,000

6. My Hero Academia - 5,047,574

7. Attack on Titan - 4,704,234

8. Haikyuu!! - 4,514,838

9. Kaguya-sama - 4,096,492

10. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken - 3,414,482

Better grab some popcorn. Wonder if Shueisha double down or correct their info.

 

[Ryuusei]

Per volume sales are also up: https://www.oricon.co.jp/confidence/special/53961/5/

1. OP 91 - 2,388,243
2. OP 93 - 2,200,000
3. OP 92 - 2,112,734
4. OP 94 - 1,880,146
[3 AoT volumes]
8. KnY 17 - 926,446
9. KnY 16 - 877,366
[2 Kingdom volumes]
12. KnY 15 - 833,472
13. MHA 21 - 831,797
14. KnY 14 - 821,222
[another Kingdom volume]
16. TPN 12 - 801,584
17. MHA 22 - 775,064
18. TPN 14 - 741,903
19. HQ 35 - 698,372
[one OPM volume]
21. KnY 13 - 693,931
[March comes in like a Lion volume]
23. KnY 1 - 680,787
24. MHA 23 - 679,813
25. TPN 15 - 673,890
26. KnY 8 - 672,657
27. HQ 36 - 670,423
28. KnY 7 - 667,478
29. KnY 9 - 667,413
30. KnY 2 - 664,815
31. KnY 10 - 659,387
32. KnY 12 - 659,221
33. KnY 11 - 657,289
34. KnY 3 - 650,471
35. TPN 13 - 649,919
[another OPM volume]
37. MHA 24 - 639,932
38. KnY 4 - 638,068
[a Detective Conan volume]
40. KnY 5 - 635,642
41. KnY 6 - 634,828
42. HQ 37 - 628,313
[Slime, Quintuplets, and OPM volumes]
48. HQ 38 - 582,378
[another Slime & Quintuplets volume]

Shueisha making BANK dominating more than half of this list. OP, KNY and MHA all have their 2019 volumes in this list while TPN and HQ missed it by 1 and 2 volumes, respectively, not to mention the ridiculous amount KNY's volumes sold. Also, if anyone wants to make a shogi manga, they should take notes from 3-gatsu no lion.

 

[pamuchi]

How much did WSJ make in this year? Total?

 

[Ctkk]

What I'm waiting for is the official KnY twitter and all that to say something. They have to, right?

 

[pamuchi]

What I'm waiting for is the official KnY twitter and all that to say something. They have to, right?

I saw oricon twitter tagged the official op account for their article about OP being the best seller per volume

 

[Jovan]

So happy for KnY, i remember the days when nobody gave a single f about the manga and everyone telling me how generic and boring the series is. This is probably the most surprising hit i've ever witnissed since im following Jump which is 10 years. The success still feels unreal to me.

Dude, same for Jujutsu Kaisen! People hated JK and loved Noah's Notes. Oh, how the tides have changed now...

 

[OniluapL]

Wait, how did OP 93 sell _more_ than 92?

 

[Caiops]

Im seeing people on Twitter saying you cant trust Oricon lol

 

[Ryuusei]

How much did WSJ make in this year? Total?

Hard to say since we can't see any other series outside the top 10 but the ones within the top 10 account for 50.1 million copies.

Wait, how did OP 93 sell _more_ than 92?

OP 92 was extremely slow, it took over 3 months to get to the 2 million figure, while volume 93 sold way better from the start.

 

[Eisenfaust]

I still don´t understand it, why should Shueisha lying though about the sales numbers? Also Oricon is a source with everyone use in the last years, something is totally strange here. Even if we add the all Digital sales, why KnY has only almost 11M sold via Shueisha version but in Oricon version where the digital doesn´t get count, KnY already sold over 12M?? I hope this mess up getting clearned up in the next days, either Oricon or Shueisha probably make a mistake with the sales numbers.

 

[OniluapL]

Hard to say since we can't see any other series outside the top 10 but the ones within the top 10 account for 50.1 million copies.



OP 92 was extremely slow, it took over 3 months to get to the 2 million figure, while volume 93 sold way better from the start.

Yeah, but... did people just not buy it? Skipped ahead to 93?

 

[Tamil]

Lmao it is funny seeing some of our member(s) bash OP (or its fandom) whether its on twitter or reddit. You know who you are

What ever happened to good sportsmanship? Even if its a vocal minority of OP fans that are toxic, that doesn't mean you have to bash the OP series or generalize all OP fans as being toxic. You guys do realize you look just as bad as those toxic OP fans (that are in the minority).

 

[Ryuusei]

Yeah, but... did people just not buy it? Skipped ahead to 93?

We can't say for sure, but there's a chance?

 

[savethecat]

I still don´t understand it, why should Shueisha lying though about the sales numbers? Also Oricon is a source with everyone use in the last years, something is totally strange here. Even if we add the all Digital sales, why KnY has only almost 11M sold via Shueisha version but in Oricon version where the digital doesn´t get count, KnY already sold over 12M?? I hope this mess up getting clearned up in the next days, either Oricon or Shueisha probably make a mistake with the sales numbers.

I’m more willing to trust Oricon since, they’ve been my official source for years, and plus, for the past couples months people have been adding together the sales of One Piece and Kimtetsu themselves to see who would win, and their number are not far off from the numbers released today. On top of that, today’s numbers seem to fall right in line with the whole “Kimetsu No Yaiba has sold 20 million copies total” report from a week or so ago. Meaning it should have sold somewhere around 12Mil this year based on that info release.

 

[Tamil]

I still don´t understand it, why should Shueisha lying though about the sales numbers? Also Oricon is a source with everyone use in the last years, something is totally strange here. Even if we add the all Digital sales, why KnY has only almost 11M sold via Shueisha version but in Oricon version where the digital doesn´t get count, KnY already sold over 12M?? I hope this mess up getting clearned up in the next days, either Oricon or Shueisha probably make a mistake with the sales numbers.

Safe to say they made an error. It doesnt make sense for them to lie. We have to wait for Shueisha's response still.

 

[Kharthas]

Lmao it is funny seeing some of our members bash OP (or its fandom) whether its on twitter or reddit. You know who you are

What ever happened to good sportsmanship? Even if its a vocal minority of OP fans that are toxic, that doesn't mean you have to bash the OP series or generalize all OP fans as being toxic. You guys do realize you look just as bad as those toxic OP fans (that are in the minority).

I think we can blame Shueisha on the sudden bad blood. Everyone already accepted Kimetsu would be 1st this year, then Shueisha went and dropped the bombshell with their own numbers, effectively sparking a feud between OP fanbase and, let's be honest, people hating OP.

Edit: the memes are on full force

Spoiler

 

[savethecat]

Lmao it is funny seeing some of our member(s) bash OP (or its fandom) whether its on twitter or reddit. You know who you are

What ever happened to good sportsmanship? Even if its a vocal minority of OP fans that are toxic, that doesn't mean you have to bash the OP series or generalize all OP fans as being toxic. You guys do realize you look just as bad as those toxic OP fans (that are in the minority).

I’m an insanely Huge One Piece fan. But I’m extremely happy to see that an underdog series that nobody expected would ever be in the top 10 best seller before the anime was announced, now somehow managed to dethrone the king of manga, even if just for one year.
It’s a really cool feat to see happen.

There is toxic fans on both sides. But it seems like we’re seeing it WAAAAY more on the One Piece side, from fans who wanted to see One Piece streak keep going until it’s end.