Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

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Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[DreamcastDazia]

You see, SNK's first half of season 3 aired in 2018 and in that year the series sold 5.2 million copies (it was #3 behind OP and MHA). The second half aired this year and the series sold 4.7 million (it was only #7), with one volume not even selling 1 million before the end of the fiscal year. The newer seasons haven't had any effects on SNK, but also, S4 seemingly won't be made by WIT, which might make the anime's quality drop considerably and not attract much buzz.

As for OP, if you look at the last volume's sales, things haven't been looking that good either. Ever since Wano started back in volume 90, volume 92 and volume 94 have both underperformed, with volume 92 only selling 2 million after 3 months and 94 is on its way to do the same. And while the anime's production has been hyped, I have doubts it could give the manga any boost, given that not even Stampede was able to make it happen.

The beginning of wano is very boring. So I'm sure now that things are picking up people are gonna be in more of a rush to buy them volumes quickly but you are probably right.

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Uh...no. I know I say this a lot, but it bears repeating.

"Hype" developments do very littile if anything for sales.

The thing which gives manga major sales boosts is exposure, that's why anime boosts are so common. The thing is, though, One Piece is already basically the most famous manga out there in Japan, there's literally nowhere it can go popularity-wise. And I highly doubt hearing Wano had some cool stuff will suddenly bring back people who stopped reading.

That's a fair argument

 

[Belkac3m]

Like every arc from one piece, fights representing the whole 2nd half of the arc, and we all know how much the fights in OP are too long and boring.

 

[Ryuusei]

Kimetsu no Yaiba is getting billboards all across Japan to promote the series. The billboards will show posters with 18 different characters and will be up for a few days in the surrounding area of Shibuya Station and in other main stations in Tokyo, in Jr East's Stations in Osaka, in main stations in Nagoya's subway and in main stations in Fukuoka. These posters are also going to be distrubuted as rare cards in bookstores. Kimetsu no Yaiba's promotion is going super strong.

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The beginning of wano is very boring. So I'm sure now that things are picking up people are gonna be in more of a rush to buy them volumes quickly but you are probably right.

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That's a fair argument

Well, volume 94 goes up to chapter 953, that's almost 50 chapters into Wano. I don't think that's still considered the beginning.

 

[pamuchi]

Kimetsu no Yaiba is getting billboards all across Japan to promote the series. The billboards will show posters with 18 different characters and will be up for a few days in the surrounding area of Shibuya Station and in other main stations in Tokyo, in Jr East's Stations in Osaka, in main stations in Nagoya's subway and in main stations in Fukuoka. These posters are also going to be distrubuted as rare cards in bookstores along with volume 18. Kimetsu no Yaiba's promotion is going super strong.

Oh speaking of those rare cards, resellers are putting them a high price for each and the whole set is almost 40k yens.


Also, here's a pv to promote the new volume. (Beware there are spoilers)

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Like every arc from one piece, fights representing the whole 2nd half of the arc, and we all know how much the fights in OP are too long and boring.

I'm not talking about fights. The fights aren't even the things that me and many others are looking most forward to anyway. Its just the pure lore that we will get

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Oh speaking of those rare cards, resellers are putting them a high price for each and the whole set is almost 40k yens.

What are these cards?

 

[Tamil]

 

[pamuchi]

I'm not talking about fights. The fights aren't even the things that me and many others are looking most forward to anyway. Its just the pure lore that we will get

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What are these cards?

Cards that contains info about each characters, maybe their quotes, moments and those kind of stuff

 

[pamuchi]

Do you think that for the upcoming Christmas cover, they will put Tanjirou next to Luffy? Or at least inbetween Emma and Deku? That would be a nice thing to do from them for the two best selling manga in the year.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Who would ever have thought that the "next Naruto" in terms of sales would be Kimetsu no Yaiba? kkkkk, everybody just acted like Boku no Hero Academia was the peak of what Shonen Jump would get in terms of popularity and sales for a battle shounen in this generation and now Yaiba is just showing that BNHA could have been much more (of course still a big series).

 

[Koni]

It's so weird how Yaiba just completely hogged the spotlight. I remember when Neverland's anime was airing and all the backlogs were propelling it to rival or even possibly beat out Kingdom in the Oricon charts this year, and HeroAca was coming off of a pretty good 2018, having firmly established itself as a successor of sorts. I thought the talk of the town was gonna be focused on these two.

Fast forward to now, and it's all about how Yaiba just took over everything. It's almost like Emma and Deku were fighting, but then Tanjiro appears out of nowhere and puts his arms around their shoulder before effortlessly faceplanting them to the ground with a genuine smile.

EDIT: Not to discredit any of those three series tho, they're all pretty successful.

 

[TyVip]

Demon Slayer has earn the "This series can stay in the magazine for 5 years with no repercussion."

I think the author can end the series at the author's wish, immediately pump out a prequel that sets like 100 years back, or in a previous Era and it would still sell like hotcakes. The momentum is there.

 

[Tamil]

With all this popularity it makes me wonder how well the Demon Train arc movie will do in the box office. Will it surpass OP's Stampede film that broke records? It's definitely going to surpass MHA's movie lol. What are your bets?

Oh boy, cant wait to see how it does.

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Who would ever have thought that the "next Naruto" in terms of sales would be Kimetsu no Yaiba? kkkkk, everybody just acted like Boku no Hero Academia was the peak of what Shonen Jump would get in terms of popularity and sales for a battle shounen in this generation and now Yaiba is just showing that BNHA could have been much more (of course still a big series).

And then there will be a series that will easily surpasses Kimetsu...moral of the story, boosts/successes can be very unpredictable. (even if it is fun to predict)

 

[Newkerzy]

It's so weird how Yaiba just completely hogged the spotlight. I remember when Neverland's anime was airing and all the backlogs were propelling it to rival or even possibly beat out Kingdom in the Oricon charts this year, and HeroAca was coming off of a pretty good 2018, having firmly established itself as a successor of sorts. I thought the talk of the town was gonna be focused on these two.

Fast forward to now, and it's all about how Yaiba just took over everything. It's almost like Emma and Deku were fighting, but then Tanjiro appears out of nowhere and puts his arms around their shoulder before effortlessly faceplanting them to the ground with a genuine smile.

EDIT: Not to discredit any of those three series tho, they're all pretty successful.

Someone needs to make fanart of this. I'm going to admit that I never got to get myself into it because of the art. I understand the characters more than make up for it, but still... I hope Gotouge can end the manga on their terms and take a hiatus so they can keep improving their art.

That's assuming Jump/Nak doesn't fuck up their return like they did with S8.

 

[wothab]

It's so weird how Yaiba just completely hogged the spotlight. I remember when Neverland's anime was airing and all the backlogs were propelling it to rival or even possibly beat out Kingdom in the Oricon charts this year, and HeroAca was coming off of a pretty good 2018, having firmly established itself as a successor of sorts. I thought the talk of the town was gonna be focused on these two.

Fast forward to now, and it's all about how Yaiba just took over everything. It's almost like Emma and Deku were fighting, but then Tanjiro appears out of nowhere and puts his arms around their shoulder before effortlessly faceplanting them to the ground with a genuine smile.

EDIT: Not to discredit any of those three series tho, they're all pretty successful.

Yup, I still remember how everyone hyped up MHA to be a successor for one of the big three (at the very least).
Things sure are unpredictable in this business

 

[Nemesis]

I don't think it's any wrong to not put Kimetsu before 2019 in the biggest things, because it wasn't. In 2016 the series had almost no popularity to the point where it was compared to Yunna. The series only began to grow more when Togashi gave a recommendation which made it more popular and then on last year it was already selling quite well. In 2019 that was when it exploded due to the anime and the rest you all know but the path of the series to here wasn't easy and no one could predict anything. Which frankly, it's why it's fun to talk about those things as things like that happens and we have surprises and histories like this of Kimetsu.

 

[Caiops]

Liked the first chapter of Zipman, but i dont how its going to work as a long running series.

Are we going to get every week a new villain? Meh

 

[pamuchi]

With all this popularity it makes me wonder how well the Demon Train arc movie will do in the box office. Will it surpass OP's Stampede film that broke records? It's definitely going to surpass MHA's movie lol. What are your bets?

Oh boy, cant wait to see how it does.

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And then there will be a series that will easily surpasses Kimetsu...moral of the story, boosts/successes can be very unpredictable. (even if it is fun to predict)

Heaven's feel box office tier, maybe a lil bit less but enough to break records

 

[Rain Spectre]

Liked the first chapter of Zipman, but i dont how its going to work in long term.

Every week a new villain? Meh

If this is going the Kamen Rider route (and Shibata does seem to be a fan per his twitter), then a villain group will surely show up. Though Rider villains tend to be established in the first episode or two...

Heaven's feel box office tier, maybe a lil bit less but enough to break records

Moral of the story is Ufotable prints money, basically.

Do wonder if this will motivate Shueisha to look for studios with specific reputations to produce anime adaptations over using factory assembly groups like Perriot and A1. It's pretty clear Ufotable's production is in large part what got the KNY anime so much attention.

 

[wothab]

Moral of the story is Ufotable prints money, basically.

Do wonder if this will motivate Shueisha to look for studios with specific reputations to produce anime adaptations over using factory assembly groups like Perriot and A1. It's pretty clear Ufotable's production is in large part what got the KNY anime so much attention.

Nah it shouldnt change much since the best studios have tight schedules that might not align with shueisha marketing cycles, shueisha should improve their decision making to decide what to push and what not to push that go beyond the apparent "current consumption/popularity" metrics, perhaps take into consideration potentiality if they want to stop "sleeping on" golden eggs in its own magazines, due to lack of exposure.
How? No Idea, but I am not paid to think of a solution

 

[Newkerzy]

Moral of the story is Ufotable prints money, basically.

Do wonder if this will motivate Shueisha to look for studios with specific reputations to produce anime adaptations over using factory assembly groups like Perriot and A1. It's pretty clear Ufotable's production is in large part what got the KNY anime so much attention.

Nope. Not going to happen, as long as Nak is in charge. MHA gained critical acclaim not just because of the manga, but also the anime production. The problem with Jump is that they don't vet potential studios thoroughly. They just take whoever wants it and hope for the best. BC, on the other hand, if I recall, was Jump giving it to Pierrot because they wanted to. While they had the right idea in mind, it just wasn't going to work out as they probably hoped it to be, because viewers saw the anime for what it is, an average manga paired with an average (or worse) studio.