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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file
 
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It's not mean spirited in the slightest, in fact my comment is more in the spirit of how Jumped used to be. We've watched Jump falter under Nakano's leadership and I think is emblematic of his new slogan "attractiveness of character." Such superficiality is disrespectful to the readership and you can see that in the quality of the series launch under Nakano. (And to be fair, this problem started before Nakano).

Jump stories used to be focused on "friendship, effort, and victory." Which is infinitely more Noble than "attractiveness of character." Even if you gave a supreme effort and ended up short of victory, you still had friends to pick you up and guide you. This is the message that should be sent to young boys and Jump's readership. This is what resonated with people across the globe.

Another staple of Jump was the cut throat nature of the biz. Samurai 8 would've been cancelled by now in the Golden age of Jump. There wouldn't have ever been a 20k club. Look, I loved Samon Kun and Dance bu but it should never have lasted over three volumes with those kinds of numbers. "What you do not hate you will tolerate." And this clearly correlate with a drop in quality of the stories Jump tells now.

The Yozakura mangaka might be a nice guy and treats his assistance well, but he clearly does not have what it takes to be a successful mangaka in Jump (in any generation). He gave a good effort, but he came up short of victory, I only hope he experiences the power of friendship to cope with this defeat because attractiveness of character sours with age.
Ooo boi, let's dig into this, shall we?

First off, no, Nakano did not institute the abandoning of Jump's motto. The first reference to Jump no longer considering the motto was in 2015, a whole two years before Nakano became EiC. Likewise with you referencing Straigen Up and Samon, neither of which ran when he was in charge? Slinging mud on him seems completely nonsensical in this context.

Secondly, what the hell is that nonsense about the motto supposed to mean? "Attractiveness of character" isn't superficial at all, it refers to the audience finding characters and consequently the story interesting and engaging. That actually makes it a less superficial idea than "friendship, effort, victory", because that's easily just an empty ideal when bluntly stated (one Medaka utterly ripped apart). You talking about it as a "noble idea" and "something to be said to young boys" (when about half of Jump's readerbase is female) is utterly laughable, and makes you sound like a complete boomer.

Thirdly, while Shinuki pointed out why the sales thing is bullocks, how the hell has Jump's quality "declined"? I'd argue its improved massively in many areas, and you give zero reason while it's apparently now worse.
 

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Those all look really good. I love Chainsaw Man and Black Clover's.
 

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I personlly loved CSM and JJK 8. CSM is so cool and stylish while JJK 9 is super eerie, probably one of my faves among JJK's volume covers.
 

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LQ preview of the new volume covers that are being released in January.

And with that, We Never Learn should have all it's heroines covered. Good thing, too, as we're really starting to enter the endgame. Maybe this will end in April, like everyone expected...
That Chainsaw Man volume oozes with style, I really love how the title is in rainbow text. I hear Fire Punch was really underrated, so I'm glad that the author is surviving on a bigger platform now. I'll need to binge it sometime...
Jujutsu Kaisen vs Black Clover will be interesting to see when those volumes come out. I like Black Clover's cover as well.
 

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Not a lot to mention on yesterday's Shoseki but this is worth noting. It should't be long before KNY takes the top 18 all for itself.

#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2
#19 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
#23 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18
 

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LQ preview of the new volume covers that are being released in January.

Two Jujutsu volumes at the same time? That's. unusual. I rarely see that, even more for a series with that much volumes.
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Also, all beautiful covers in that. Chainsaw Man and BC are my favorites.
 

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Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #4-5:
Haikyu!! (LCP)
One Piece
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
ACT-AGE
Black Clover
The Promised Neverland (CP)
ZIPMAN!!
My Hero Academia
Deku & Bakugo: RISING (Short One-Shot, 2 of 2)
Agravity Boys
One-Shot by Asou Shuuichi
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
Dr. STONE
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Mitama Security: Spirit Busters
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru
Mission: Yozakura Family
Dr. STONE reboot: Byakuya (Spin-Off, Last Chapter)
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #6-7:
Cover & LCP: One Piece
CP: Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, One-Shot by Tadatoshi Fujimaki




Looks like the images all got taken off imgur. Any backup links to the images?
 

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Two Jujutsu volumes at the same time? That's. unusual. I rarely see that, even more for a series with that much volumes.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Also, all beautiful covers in that. Chainsaw Man and BC are my favorites.
Yeah, it was shown a little while ago that JJK was releasing two volumes at once, which I think is what got everyone on the "they must be about to announce the anime, so these two new volumes coming out are for the hype/to ride the hype of the announcement".
 

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Not a lot to mention on yesterday's Shoseki but this is worth noting. It should't be long before KNY takes the top 18 all for itself.

#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2
#19 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
#23 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18
I think that will be hard since it is up against One Piece 97 and that should block all KNY volumes from taking over at least for the next 2 weeks
 

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Looks like the images all got taken off imgur. Any backup links to the images?
They are still showing here, though.

I think that will be hard since it is up against One Piece 97 and that should block all KNY volumes from taking over at least for the next 2 weeks
OP 95 only comes out on the 28th, KNY has plenty of time until then.
 

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So, anything in the latest issue surrounding WNL? Nothing confirming what that "future" mentioned at Festa is about?
 

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Yes really? it's bottom 4, doesn't really matter if its above Yuuna if still in the bottom of the ToC
It's also in 9th place though. "Bottom 4" doesn't mean much when there are only 12 series to rank.

They are still showing here, though.
The images aren't working for me, either.
 

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Who is the one appearing in Jujutsu cover 8?

Fujimaki back next issue. I wonder if the oneshot will be a spokon or a different gentre.
 

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Who is the one appearing in Jujutsu cover 8?

Fujimaki back next issue. I wonder if the oneshot will be a spokon or a different gentre.
It's Toji.

Fujimaki is doing a jidai geki.
 

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So, anything in the latest issue surrounding WNL? Nothing confirming what that "future" mentioned at Festa is about?
That probably only will be said there.
 

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Looks like the images all got taken off imgur. Any backup links to the images?
It's also in 9th place though. "Bottom 4" doesn't mean much when there are only 12 series to rank.


The images aren't working for me, either.





 

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Hey, isnt volume 3 of Samurai 8, Taisei, BC and TSS also being released January? They werent included in the preview? lol
 
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