Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Rain Spectre]

Five votes is sort of too much for me, even more considering they aren't weighted. The distance between the chapter I thought was the best and thought was the 5th best is way too big.

I agree. Not to mention, it removes the main reason we set the poll up the begin with, that being to replicate what JP readers do in the voting. Doing the "Five Votes" thing is a mistake, plain and simple.

 

[Nemesis]

I think that this week many series gave really amazing chapters, even with the increased number of votes allowed it was still difficult for me to decide.

In the end, I voted for One Piece, Mitama, MHA, Dr Stone and Zipman. I really love the new enemies' designs in Zipman.

Also, is it just me, but I think that at present, WSJ has a really strong lineup, comparable to the days of Beelzebub, Toriko, Naruto, etc

They're fantastic. A baby, a dinosaur and optimus prime on a onsen lol

 

[Caiops]

It looks like Haikyuu will end in a few chapters

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Five votes is sort of too much for me, even more considering they aren't weighted. The distance between the chapter I thought was the best and thought was the 5th best is way too big.

I agree. Not to mention, it removes the main reason we set the poll up the begin with, that being to replicate what JP readers do in the voting. Doing the "Five Votes" thing is a mistake, plain and simple.

You guys are not changing the world with these votes, is just a fun poll and in a magazine with at least 18 different mangas, i don't see how voting in 5 is "too much", personally i'm struggling every damn week with who i should vote because 3 is just too little and decrease a lot the chances for other mangas to get voted too since is very obvious that most of users have locked series as their favorites.

 

[Brandish μ]

Hey guys, changing to 5 votes is a trial for now. It will stay if it works out better.

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Reading WNL and Chainsaw's chapters back to back made me kind of depressed, both for different reasons. WNL is at the endgame, while Chainsaw's was really bittersweet and dark.

 

[Thundercat27]

The new MH poll is posted.

Starting this poll, we're doing five votes per person, instead of three.

Can I revote, I forgot about that and just voted 3 like usual.

 

[OniluapL]

You guys are not changing the world with these votes, is just a fun poll and in a magazine with at least 18 different mangas, i don't see how voting in 5 is "too much", personally i'm struggling every damn week with who i should vote because 3 is just too little and decrease a lot the chances for other mangas to get voted too since is very obvious that most of users have locked series as their favorites.

... I'm not saying I am changing the world, though? I'm just giving my opinion, I don't actually mind that much, lol.

But, regarding the other point you've made, having five votes will make it so my favorites will never be... not voted by me. Maybe One Piece won't be in my top3 some weeks, but it's pretty hard to imagine it not being at least my fifth favorite series any given week. But eh, maybe it's just that there's a smaller number of series I'm really into in comparison to the majority of this forum.

 

[Halloween]

Can I revote, I forgot about that and just voted 3 like usual.

I posted previously that I was going to change it, before making the poll. Anyway, unfortunately I can't, not without resetting everyone's votes.

 

[Thundercat27]

Boy, defeating idol stuff in franchise sales is a damn great achievement.

Given the note, its no surprise that KnY is #1. It would've been nice if they included film tickets.

They definitely counted film tickets. It's the only explanation for how Kaguya position above 5toubun.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

... I'm not saying I am changing the world, though? I'm just giving my opinion, I don't actually mind that much, lol.

But, regarding the other point you've made, having five votes will make it so my favorites will never be... not voted by me. Maybe One Piece won't be in my top3 some weeks, but it's pretty hard to imagine it not being at least my fifth favorite series any given week. But eh, maybe it's just that there's a smaller number of series I'm really into in comparison to the majority of this forum.

I know, i wasn't trying to attack you guys or anything kkkkk.

About your point, this applies more if you just read few of the Jump mangas, but i don't think users are obligated to vote in 5, you can vote in 5 at most, so if you don't think 5 series deserved to be voted on X week, you can vote on just 3 of them, you see, even with more votes, 2 users already commented about being hard to vote this week due to many great chapters

 

[MangAniMY]

Boy, defeating idol stuff in franchise sales is a damn great achievement.



They definitely counted film tickets. It's the only explanation for how Kaguya position above 5toubun.

they don't count ticket

 

[Tamil]

Boy, defeating idol stuff in franchise sales is a damn great achievement.



They definitely counted film tickets. It's the only explanation for how Kaguya position above 5toubun.

No...if film tickets counted then Kimetsu would definitely lose to Weathering with You & Aladdin....

 

[TyVip]

I still think the latest chapter of Yokuzura Family should have been the last chapter to end the first volume in, so 7 or 8

 

[Thundercat27]

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Spy X Family ranked 5th.
Chainsawman ranked 12th.
Sayonara miniskirt ranked 13th

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2019 ---

No...if film tickets counted then Kimetsu would definitely lose to Weathering with You & Aladdin....

Yeah, you're right.
Offtopic but I guess kaguya sold more Blu-ray than 5toubun then.

 

[Halloween]

And guys, I definitely understand the complaints about switching the votes from three to five. I'm trying to resolve the constant tie votes we're always getting.

If, after this, we're still getting tie votes, we will switch it back. The issue may be inherent, and could be because of the relative number of voters instead of the amount of votes themselves, but we'll have to wait and see.

As Brandish said, this is a test run.

 

[Rain Spectre]

So, having given Agravity Boys an actual read, I can safely say that my biggest issue is that everyone kinda...feels the same, I guess?

Like, putting the rather immature comedy which has heavily involved the guys acting like horny idiots and poop jokes, the issue is none of the four boys really feel like people in their own right. They all have the same background of being orphaned prodigies, they all react to things mostly the same way (unless its being directed at someone else) and they don't show many noticeable character traits. I rip on Yozakura for only writing its characters as gimmicks instead of people, but Agravity is the oppisite, its characters are so unremarkable that they blend together.

 

[Koni]

Spy X Family ranked 5th.
Chainsawman ranked 12th.
Sayonara miniskirt ranked 13th

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 23, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 23, 2019 ---

Yeah, you're right.
Offtopic but I guess kaguya sold more Blu-ray than 5toubun then.

Actually... no, it didn't.

2019 Total Average Sales, TV/ONA

Gotoubun average sales per volume: 6,719 (5,488 BDs + 1,231 DVDs)
Kaguya average sales per volume: 4,906 (4,312 BDs + 594 DVDs)


I'll stop here, though, since it is off topic. It's jsut something I found weird.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

And guys, I definitely understand the complaints about switching the votes from three to five. I'm trying to resolve the constant tie votes we're always getting.

If, after this, we're still getting tie votes, we will switch it back. The issue may be inherent, and could be because of the relative number of voters instead of the amount of votes themselves, but we'll have to wait and see.

As Brandish said, this is a test run.

If the problem keeps the same, why going back to 3 then? at least with 5 we will still have more options to vote and more chances of not having so much tied series.

 

[Halloween]

If the problem keeps the same, why going back to 3 then? at least with 5 we will still have more options to vote and more chances of not having so much tied series.

Well, I spoke to Brandish about it, and the number of votes may not actually be the problem. It's just something that may keep happening because we have about 100 people, more or less, that bother voting.

Like I said, we'll see how it works. If we're still getting the same number of ties, there's no reason to keep it at five, since that's literally the only reason why I increased it at all.

I wanted this to be authentic to the way WSJ does it, but with our small pool of voters, we may have to adjust.