Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Ctkk]

I've been reading Kimetsu lately and imo the really cool stuff doesn't even begin until after the point where the anime ends. And even that is basically just fighting against demons (I'm only up to chapter 120).

I think it's good but I really don't see anything special about it that would explain it selling several millions per volume.

Is it all the tragedy? Or the Taisho setting? Are the Japanese really into that?

 

[Rain Spectre]

Is it all the tragedy? Or the Taisho setting? Are the Japanese really into that?

While I obviously don't think the tragedy is the sole aspect of the appeal, there is something to be said about how it draws people in.

Think of it. In modern society, the rise of the internet and social media has meant people are more visible to the scope of the world as a whole, and all the tragedy that comes with it. We view tragedy in such a way that it becomes more difficult to perceive a world without it. And, consequently, we desire fewer stories which have a truly carefree perspective on life, where heroes can get through everything as long as their determined enough, and friendship trumps everything.

Maybe that's why Jump ditched "Friendship, Effort, Victory". Society has evolved to a point where people can't believe in a childish thing like that.

For reference, if someone tried to create a character like Luffy today, I think they'd be laughed at.

 

[Arjuna]

Since I see this is getting debated, I feel I should weigh in on this. Much of the theorizing comes from Last and First Idol, for reference. Good book, FYI.

Anyway, the appeal of Kimetsu lies in the mainstream acceptance of Otaku culture and the desire from authors born of that culture to actively violate "accepted" ideas in favor of creating works which actively exist both on their inspirations and as themselves. Kimetsu follows much of the mainstream ideals of battle manga as a genre in terms of structure and central appeal, but it derives much through having a protagonist who doesn't follow the Goku model, and is equal parts light-hearted and exceptionally brutal, with many extremely dark backstories and characters directly suffering from permanent injury and death.

Essentially, the series actively survives not on creating its own tropes per say, but by using the active framework provided by authors like Toriyama, Togashi, Watsuki, Oda, Kishimoto, Kubo and others to create a work which is viewed by the subject audience as appealing and well-written. It is a display of how Jump proceeds in the 2010s, through works which garner mass appeal through strength of writing and long term discussion, rather than instantly striking on part of its artwork.

That's my view, anyway.

I also think that the real charm of Kimetsu is because it is a dark shounen series with a non idiot and non dense MC.

 

[MangAniMY]

eh, why not,

the best of adaptation won't necessarily have people flocking to buy the manga
and bad adaptions can and have sell manga too.

why stuff sell is an age old question most doesn't have nor will have an answer for,


there are multiple reason why I think might contribute to KnY success, but like usual, I'm not gonna bother

 

[Nav]

3 New Series are coming to WSJ

Issue 8: Undead Unluck (Cover & LCP, 54p by Yoshifumi Tozuka)

Other 2 are unknown at the moment

source: http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/27315

 

[Rain Spectre]

3 New Series are coming to WSJ

source: http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/27315

We were right guys!

 

[Jovan]

First new series is the serialization of a oneshot Undead+Unluck by Yoshifumi Tozuka.

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[Neala897]

First new series is the serialization of a oneshot Undead+Unluck by Yoshifumi Tozuka.

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It needs a lot of rewriting to make this good

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I'm surprised because Undead+Unluck oneshot is from this very same year. I even recall it perfectly lol

 

[NyanPower]

 

[animeexpert]

3 New Series are coming to WSJ

Issue 8: Undead Unluck (Cover & LCP, 54p by Yoshifumi Tozuka)

Other 2 are unknown at the moment

source: http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/27315

3?? Oh shiet. I'm Hyped. That means the zipman batch can be in danger now, espcially yozakura if he dont take his own manga serious. The edgy era is on the roll

 

[Nemesis]

It's bizarre how all titles from WSJ are basically translated and picked by Manga Editors but one-shots are rarely picked.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 26, 2019, Original Post Date: Dec 26, 2019 ---

It needs a lot of rewriting to make this good

More like it needs a lot of rewriting to make this able to be published on WSJ lol There's so many things that will probably be changed for serialization

 

[Rain Spectre]

More like it needs a lot of rewriting to make this able to be published on WSJ lol There's so many things that will probably be changed for serialization

I mean, you say that, but Chainsaw Man kinda proves anything goes.

 

[RafGL]

The fact that they didn't reveal the next series coming seems way more interesting to me than whatever this new series ends up being. One-Shot was decentish I guess, but won't judge since this can be ZIPPO all over again.

 

[NeeNeen]

First new series is the serialization of a oneshot Undead+Unluck by Yoshifumi Tozuka.

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lhscan.net

The MC looks good.

I hope they drop the sexual assault though.

 

[tirakai]

Not enough people read oneshots for them to be worth taking the time to translate, keep in mind the biggest groups do WSJ series because they get the most clicks. Plus unless they're by an already popular creator, generally everyone just going to skip past them on the TOC.

 

[animeexpert]

I mean, you say that, but Chainsaw Man kinda proves anything goes.

Yeh, chainsawman give jump really an new idea, chainsawman opened the doors for these type of mangas Kkkkkkkkkkk

 

[Ebrietas-]

While I obviously don't think the tragedy is the sole aspect of the appeal, there is something to be said about how it draws people in.

Think of it. In modern society, the rise of the internet and social media has meant people are more visible to the scope of the world as a whole, and all the tragedy that comes with it. We view tragedy in such a way that it becomes more difficult to perceive a world without it. And, consequently, we desire fewer stories which have a truly carefree perspective on life, where heroes can get through everything as long as their determined enough, and friendship trumps everything.

Maybe that's why Jump ditched "Friendship, Effort, Victory". Society has evolved to a point where people can't believe in a childish thing like that.

For reference, if someone tried to create a character like Luffy today, I think they'd be laughed at.

Man, you're really reaching to create this narrative that modern Jump is soo much better than pre 2010's and that most series beforehand were braindead crap lol.

Tragic stories have been popular since eternity. Friendship and determination are still a big part of shounen manga and Tanjiro is in no way a unique, never seen before MC. He is a pretty generic "I'll do everything to save my sister" kind of protagonist that have existed since forever. Not saying he is a bad MC in anyway but its weird how you act like every MC before 2010 were all goofy lovable idiots like Luffy etc. That said your hot take about protagonists like Luffy being laughed at today is just incorrect...Just stop.

First new series is the serialization of a oneshot Undead+Unluck by Yoshifumi Tozuka.

WeLoveManga - Read Manga Free Online Hight Quality

Read manga free online high quality. Update daily and fastest.

lhscan.net

Ugh...What's up with all that sexual assault stuff by the MC. Hope it is at least toned down for the serialization.

 

[Jovan]

I wouldn't be surprised if the other two new series end up being from veterans, since it's rare for Jump to not show all new series at the same time.

 

[Mammo]

Really like the look of the Matsuura/Goto story.

Doragagaga look like something drawn by Ikemoto

3 New Series are coming to WSJ

Issue 8: Undead Unluck (Cover & LCP, 54p by Yoshifumi Tozuka)

Other 2 are unknown at the moment

source: http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/27315

where's My Magic Academia series tho?