Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Tamil]

To be fair, they kind of need phenomenal character writing in order to grab an audience and survive. Not everybody plays basketball, volleyball, or does sumo wrestling, but people will watch a cast of characters grow and endure trials no matter the sport if they find said cast compelling enough. If they aren't then the series catches the axe.

True but what I mean is that those 3 I listed are in a league of their own.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Can't that be said of the vast majority of modern manga? I can't really think of a popular 2010s manga which has "weak" character writing, though I'm probably missing something.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

I can't really say a specific manga in general. But I can say I really like Kira Yoshikage as a villain from Jojo Part 4. He's a more down to earth villian as compared to your typical, "I'm evil, hur durr". His main goal is the exact opposite of the "rule the world" mentality.

There are so many villains like that though... The evil for the sake of it villains are rare. And one that are like that can still be phenomenal characters. Example. DOFLAMINGO

 

[Ebrietas-]

There are so many villains like that though... The evil for the sake of it villains are rare. And one that are like that can still be phenomenal characters. Example. DOFLAMINGO

I don't think that's what he meant by down to earth. Kira's motivation was to literally just live a quiet peaceful life(His definition of it at least).

 

[Rain Spectre]

Guess this is what happens when do you draw 40 pages for 9 weeks straight.

 

[Minsel]

Guess this is what happens when do you draw 40 pages for 9 weeks straight.

f for my boi boichi

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Guess this is what happens when do you draw 40 pages for 9 weeks straight.

Togashi: "First time?"

 

[Nemesis]

Guess this is what happens when do you draw 40 pages for 9 weeks straight.

In his case drawing and writing

 

[Ryuusei]

Shoseki Daily for 12/27, which is day 0 for OP 95 and something curious happened. I think this is a first.

1 9784592160250 ３月のライオン　１５ 白泉社 羽海野チカ 2019.12.26
2 9784088821696 ＯＮＥ　ＰＩＥＣＥ　９５ 集英社 尾田栄一郎 2019.12.28

 

[OniluapL]

Well, One Piece has been declining, but Sangatsu is one of the series that sells the most by volume in Japan, probably not that strange?

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Also, wait a second, isn't One Piece launching in a weird day? It will have a 2-day first week, right? That's... unusual.

 

[TxxT]

The Volumes releasing January 4th will also have a 2 day first week iicrc

 

[Rain Spectre]

So, with the fact that WNL has hit an anime-original ending, is there any Jump romance manga which have complete anime? I know Nisekoi and Ichigo 100% don't.

 

[Neala897]

So, with the fact that WNL has hit an anime-original ending, is there any Jump romance manga which have complete anime? I know Nisekoi and Ichigo 100% don't.

Kor I think though anime pretty different from manga as I understood.

 

[OniluapL]

So, with the fact that WNL has hit an anime-original ending, is there any Jump romance manga which have complete anime? I know Nisekoi and Ichigo 100% don't.

I don't actually know, but maybe Hatsukoi Limited? It was a short series, after all.

 

[RafGL]

This is MANGA Plus growth after 1 week without big-group's scans.

 

[Aipom626]

This is MANGA Plus growth after 1 week without big-group's scans.

That's some impressive growth right there. However, my main takeaway from this chart is we need to figure out some way to get people to read Mitama lol

 

[Mammo]

Unfortunately no, especially for oneshots. Also, the scan community doesn't do oneshots that often only if it's from a known mangaka.

speaking of which
we should get Fujimaki's new oneshot on M+ shouldn't we?

 

[MysticCatto]

It has su

That's some impressive growth right there. However, my main takeaway from this chart is we need to figure out some way to get people to read Mitama lol

It has such a large gap from even Agravity Boys... Hope that Jump advertises it more once the first volume comes out

 

[tirakai]

Western audiences in general just aren't interested in gag manga, especially from jump. It's incredibly rare for gag manga to have much fan translations even, I think Saiki is the only wsj gag manga to have a complete translation? Except Dr Slump I guess, though I feel like that's because of people wanting to see what Toriyama did before DB rather than people actually caring much about Dr Slump as a series.

I think there's currently a group doing Bobobobobobobo however so that'll probably also be complete in a few months.

That's personally the biggest benefit of Manga+ to me, normally we'd never get gag manga translated (officially or by fans). Guaranteed if there was no viz/manga+ we wouldn't have a complete David, or Japan, or Double Taisei, or Mitama.

 

[Nemesis]

Western audiences in general just aren't interested in gag manga, especially from jump. It's incredibly rare for gag manga to have much fan translations even, I think Saiki is the only wsj gag manga to have a complete translation? Except Dr Slump I guess, though I feel like that's because of people wanting to see what Toriyama did before DB rather than people actually caring much about Dr Slump as a series.

I think there's currently a group doing Bobobobobobobo however so that'll probably also be complete in a few months.

That's personally the biggest benefit of Manga+ to me, normally we'd never get gag manga translated (officially or by fans). Guaranteed if there was no viz/manga+ we wouldn't have a complete David, or Japan, or Double Taisei, or Mitama.

Are we ignoring Gintama, Sket Dance and other series? Also, Saiki still needs to be completed with its translation. Last time I looked it was 10 or so chapters to be complete.

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This is MANGA Plus growth after 1 week without big-group's scans.

That's great. Really shows how much those being out gave it a boost.