Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[DreamcastDazia]

It's at 10 million circulation copies after 5 years of serialization and on the decline, how high would you put it?

If anything, now that I think again I was probably too generous lol

Yeah you have a good point.

 

[iamnightwing]

KnY: 50mln+ (should pass 30mln as soon as like, next week or the one after that btw)
BC: 18mln
Jujutsu: 20mln+ for sure imo but too early to call
MHA: 35mln, maybe 40

Calling atleast 10m+ for AA and CSM.

KNY, I believe should end by Volume 25. I think should reach 2.5 million copies per volume max. I think 50 million is on the low end... Could go as high as 65-70 million IMHO

MHA I think should go up to Volume 40.... so yeah, 35-40 million, though I think including worldwide sales could push the number to 50 million

BC though not sure how long it could last.. I know mangaka wants to have it go on as long as Naruto or Bleach, but I think that's too ambitious. Might match MHA and tap at Volume 40, so 15-20 million copies...

For JJK, will wait how the anime does...

TPN might go out at Vol 20-22 so 25 million

 

[Ryuusei]

But in your opinion, on the whole, how much will the current series of Jump come to sell before the end?

DS for example, I think it will surely exceed 30 million.

HQ at 40 and above will get there safely

My Hero between 30 and 40 million

Neverland for sure beyond 20, it depends on how long it will last.


I think Black Clover will stop at 20 if all goes well.

Jujutsu depends, but the 20 will surpass them for sure.

What about the rest?

KNY: 60-70 million
HQ: 40 million.
MHA: 40 million.
TPN: 20 million.
BC: 15 million.
Stone: 5 million.

No JJK, AA and CSM yet since I want to see their anime boosts first.

 

[Franz]

BC: 15 million.
Stone: 5 million.

Aren't they a little too low ?

 

[Nav]

Spoiler: Issue 9 TOC

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #9:

MASHLE (Cover & LCP)

Jujutsu Kaisen

One Piece

The Promised Neverland (Break Next Issue)

My Hero Academia

Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)

Agravity Boys

Dr. STONE

Undead Unluck

ACT-AGE

Haikyu!!

Mitama Security: Spirit Busters (CP)

ZIPMAN!!

Black Clover

Chainsaw Man

We Never Learn

Mission: Yozakura Family

Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru

Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10:

Cover & LCP: The Witch’s Guardian (New Series by Sakano Asahi)

CP: MASHLE (25p)

Extra Pages: Undead Unluck (23p)

Spoiler: Issue 9 TOC Image

Spoiler: Issue 10 Preview Image

 

[Franz]

Already ?

Did Shonen Jump come out earlier this week?

 

[TxxT]

But in your opinion, on the whole, how much will the current series of Jump come to sell before the end?

DS for example, I think it will surely exceed 30 million.

HQ at 40 and above will get there safely

My Hero between 30 and 40 million

Neverland for sure beyond 20, it depends on how long it will last.


I think Black Clover will stop at 20 if all goes well.

Jujutsu depends, but the 20 will surpass them for sure.

What about the rest?

Kimetsu no Yaiba: 50 million

Haikyu!!: 40-45 million (still no digital/worldwide numbers)

My Hero Academia: 40-45 million (still no digital/worldwide numbers)

The Promised Neverland: 20 million

Black Clover: 15 million

Dr.Stone: 6 million

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: Issue 9 TOC

*ACT-AGE is under Undead Unluck

JJK being on the top is the kind of content I like to see. Stone being in the middle is very unusual. While S8 has cemented its place in the bottom of the TOC, it's weird to see BC being place at the bottom so often. Also, CSM is very low too.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Completely deserved 1st place for Jujutsu Kaisen. I'm very happy.

 

[Thores]

JJK being on the top is the kind of content I like to see. Stone being in the middle is very unusual. While S8 has cemented its place in the bottom of the TOC, it's weird to see BC being place at the bottom so often. Also, CSM is very low too.

The current environment of the magazine means that SOMETHING has to be at the bottom. Outside of exactly three series (Yozakura, Mitama, S8), everything is either an established successful series, or too new to be officially ranked yet.

We probably don’t have to be worried about even the titles at the very bottom right now, at least in the short term.

 

[RafGL]

The current environment of the magazine means that SOMETHING has to be at the bottom. Outside of exactly three series (Yozakura, Mitama, S8), everything is either an established successful series, or too new to be officially ranked yet.

We probably don’t have to be worried about even the titles at the very bottom right now, at least in the short term.

This will change soon given that ZIPMAN and Agravity will start ranking from Issue 10 and 11, but yeah, as of now we're dealing with basically 4 series not ranking because of low chapters, 2 color pages, and the usual stuff of series like ONE PIECE, Neverland or Kimetsu being always on top, so it leaves 0 possibility of newer series standing out, and also forces the rest of established series to be on the bottom. There's just no deep meaning to think about right now, or at least until we have every series actually performing because of their popularity.

 

[101nemesis]

But in your opinion, on the whole, how much will the current series of Jump come to sell before the end?

DS for example, I think it will surely exceed 30 million.

HQ at 40 and above will get there safely

My Hero between 30 and 40 million

Neverland for sure beyond 20, it depends on how long it will last.


I think Black Clover will stop at 20 if all goes well.

Jujutsu depends, but the 20 will surpass them for sure.

What about the rest?

KNY: 60 million
HQ: 40 million.
MHA: 35-40 million.
JK - 18 million+ (with current sales)
BC: 15-17 million.

 

[tirakai]

Yuuna low but it's about time for it to start ending anyway. Everything's mostly wrapped up in the series already at this point, it just needs to finish up the episodic stuff and start the final arc.

I hope we can get a new romcom hit before it and WNL both end.

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Interesting TOC. Always happy to see Yozakura not dead last, though with everything above Yuuna this week, don't know exactly what to think. Interested to see where Zipman and Agravity start placing.

 

[Xzone]

So, Nisekoi had 229 chapter, and right now Yuuna have 192 and We never Learn 144.
Do you see one of them surpassing Nisekoi?

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

So, Nisekoi had 229 chapter, and right now Yuuna have 192 and We never Learn 144.
Do you see one of them surpassing Nisekoi?

Yuuna probably if it doesnt wrap things up ASAP, WNL is mot likely gonna end with no more than 200 chapters at this rate

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Spoiler: Issue 9 TOC

Jk and MHA are surprisingly high

 

[tirakai]

Yuuna certainly seems like it wants to surpass Nisekoi in total chapter count. It could easily end quicker, it could probably work out a decent finale in 10 chapters without too much trouble, but at this point I get the impression Miura just plans to keep going until Jump kicks him out.

WNL feels like it's due to end within half a year, maybe even in the next couple months (unless they do a college arc but that doesn't really feel in the spirit of the series so far, that's always been the end goal).

I kinda want Yuuna to keep going for a while though, at least until we get a new successful romcom. I'd rather not be missing potentially 2 core genres (it seems like we may finally have a new gag series it's definitely not safe yet).

 

[Ryuusei]

Aren't they a little too low ?

Not really. Stone's anime boost was not big for the backlog and the new volumes themselves, so a second boost shouldn't happen for upcoming seasons. But, there is a chance it might hit 7 million or so. As for BC, its backlog has been selling too little and if the downwards trend continues it should take a longer time to add millions to its circulation figure.

Jk and MHA are surprisingly high

MHA has its anime running so it should be top-middle until March or April.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Should we be worried about the JK anime. They ain't showing anything. Isn't it releasing next season?