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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
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Is the volume of Dr. Reboot Byakuya dated?
 

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I'm not even arguing about you criticizing the story (i don't really care), just talking about your entire big rage because the author included the family in the first cover of the "Yozakura Family" manga as if it's a false advertising, like, come on kkkk
It wasn't a rage. It was a passionate critique.
If I said this about a series you didn't like you wouldn't be responding this passionately. The fans of this series have a real problem with their sacred cow being eaten. It reminds me of when a certain user (not you. Just don't want to outright call them out as not to get banned) would respond to every single person who said something negative about Black Clover, no matter what. Always derailing the thread in the process.
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Not that I care enough to join the discussion but Rain liking a post that calls his own post stupid and disrespectful lowkey made me chuckle ngl
Rain has self awareness and is actively trying to grow and learn. It doesn't happen in a day but his growth has been remarkable.
 

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It wasn't a rage. It was a passionate critique.
If I said this about a series you didn't like you wouldn't be responding this passionately. The fans of this series have a real problem with their sacred cow being eaten. It reminds me of when a certain user would respond to every single person who said something negative about Black Clover, no matter what. Always derailing the thread in the process.
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Rain has self awareness and is actively trying to grow and learn. It doesn't happen in a day but his growth has been remarkable.
I was just really confused about your entire passionate rant about the author doing what he is supposed to do, and you're just assuming things i don't know why, if i was "responding passionately" about criticism of Yozakura i would be quoting Rain or the others talking about the author reusing illustrations kkkkk
 

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I typically don't have a problem with artwork being re-purposed.
I have a problem with false advertising.
I dont think the cover of volume1 is false advertising when it comes to the chapters that are on that volume but I see your point as the whole manga in general, specially because what its supposed to be the family, the main core of the series, were forgotten as the others side characters that have been included and will be forgotten too. So I will say its not false advertisement on this volume but it will be for future volumes if it doesnt change the situation the series has been on.
 

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I was just really confused about your entire passionate rant about the author doing what he is supposed to do, and you're just assuming things i don't know why, if i was "responding passionately" about criticism of Yozakura i would be quoting Rain or the others talking about the author reusing illustrations kkkkk
He's so supposed to advertise his incompetence with planning and proper character writing?
It just feels weird to re purpose artwork when the artwork being re-purposed isn't even relevant to the series behind the cover.
Also, I'm confused that you're confused by my passionate rant. It's been my shtick here since 2012.
 
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But the first volume has more chapters than chapter 1.
Reading up to Chapter 7 (which is part of that bizarre florist mini-arc) actually can give you the impression that the rest of the family will indeed be relevant, and this is just the introduction phase. Too bad that...doesn't happen.
 

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Look, even as a fan of the manga, Yozakura definitely has an issue with properly utilizing it's supporting cast, especially the rest of the family. That being said, they still show up at times in the first volume, and even a good chunk of the second volume will be the "here's this family members gimmick" chapters. Does Gondaira need to get his shit together in regards to the family, yes, does including them on the covers falsely advertise the series? I disagree.
 

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Jump+ volumes for the month:
Surprised 2.5D Seduction got back to back volume releases already, dont think any one mentioned this
 

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I feel like 'm the only one that actually likes the Yozakura Volume 1 cover but then again, I've yet to read the series.

Anyways, I'm curious, what Jump+ series are you guys currently enjoying right now and why?

Dosanko Gyaru is Mega Cute and Mato Seihei no Slave are the ones I've consistently kept up with. The former's this really nice slice-of-life romcom while the latter's been a fun erotic shonen romp that I've been missing. Neither has the story as a strong suit, but they make up for it with fun characters and really good artwork. 2.5D Seduction and Saotome Shimai are also ones I've enjoyed, but they haven't been scanlated in ages.

(3 out of the 4 series being ecchi are just a coincidence. I should start reading more non-ecchi stuff.)
 

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At least it’s not been as toxic as when Stealth Symphony was running once upon a time. Christ did that fanbase have spider senses whenever someone made a small critique about the series or author. It was hysterical at times.
 

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I feel like 'm the only one that actually likes the Yozakura Volume 1 cover but then again, I've yet to read the series.

Anyways, I'm curious, what Jump+ series are you guys currently enjoying right now and why?

Dosanko Gyaru is Mega Cute and Mato Seihei no Slave are the ones I've consistently kept up with. The former's this really nice slice-of-life romcom while the latter's been a fun erotic shonen romp that I've been missing. Neither has the story as a strong suit, but they make up for it with fun characters and really good artwork. 2.5D Seduction and Saotome Shimai are also ones I've enjoyed, but they haven't been scanlated in ages.

(3 out of the 4 series being ecchi are just a coincidence. I should start reading more non-ecchi stuff.)
It's not that it's necessarily a bad cover. It's just that all of the characters on it are basically only in the initial chapters (barely) and then practically dropped from the series.

The only Jump+ series I'm reading right now is Spy X Family and I love it. It reminds me so much of Beelzebub but set in a more grounded world.
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At least it’s not been as toxic as when Stealth Symphony was running once upon a time. Christ did that fanbase have spider senses whenever someone made a small critique about the series or author. It was hysterical at times.
It was just one user that I recall, and he was just sharkbaiting for fun.
 

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I don’t like like bringing up my personal life on forums, but as an illustrator and story writer myself I feel like some don’t really understand how hard creating your own story and planning a manga/comic is.

I know most don’t mean harm. But I’m pretty sure damn near every axed Creator in Jump puts tons of planning and and effort into their series.
It’s just difficult to successfully execute what you’ve planned sometimes.

Just don’t like when people refer to mangaka being “lazy”. Like, even if you don’t like Yozakura, just flipping through the art and panels you can see how much work put in their. I’ve spent hours and sleepless nights putting together just 3 comic pages, sketched and inked. I couldn’t even fathom pushing out 17 page chapters every week, and don’t know how they do it. Who cares if he chooses to reuse some old art for the cover
 

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Weekly Sales by Series - 1/20~1/26

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba
#2 Gotoubun no Hanayome
#3 Kaguya-sama: Love is War
#4 The Promised Neverland
#5 My Hero Academia
#6 Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun
#7 Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi
#8 Daiya no A
#9 Spy x Family
#10 One Piece

Kimetsu no Yaiba's sales in 2020's fiscal year so far (10 weeks): 15,667,045. It hasn't crossed SNK's 2013 sales yet but it's only by a small margin (266,756). It should cross that figure and OP's 2013 sales in the following two weeks with the release of volume 19 and new reprints hitting bookstores, making it the 4th biggest yearly sales since Oricon started tracking sales.
 
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Also, I would say that in the first 7 chapters the entire family DOES makes quite a few appearances to justify them being on the cover.

While he probably shouldn’t have introduced so many characters early on, I think it’s a bit much to say he’s falsely advertising. He obviously intends/intended for them to be important. He just had a hard time incorporating so many characters

on top of that. For all we know him introducing so many characters, rather than focusing on new ones could be editorial push attempting to improve reception, which is pretty common
 

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I feel like 'm the only one that actually likes the Yozakura Volume 1 cover but then again, I've yet to read the series.

Anyways, I'm curious, what Jump+ series are you guys currently enjoying right now and why?

Dosanko Gyaru is Mega Cute and Mato Seihei no Slave are the ones I've consistently kept up with. The former's this really nice slice-of-life romcom while the latter's been a fun erotic shonen romp that I've been missing. Neither has the story as a strong suit, but they make up for it with fun characters and really good artwork. 2.5D Seduction and Saotome Shimai are also ones I've enjoyed, but they haven't been scanlated in ages.

(3 out of the 4 series being ecchi are just a coincidence. I should start reading more non-ecchi stuff.)
Following regularly, just Spy x Family and Ao no Flag, which are two of my absolute favorites, considering every series I'm caught up on.]

Besides, I need to get back to Jigokuraku and The Vertical Country, both series are really interesting and creative, but I stopped reading for whatever reason.
 

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#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba
#2 Gotoubun no Hanayome
#3 Kaguya-sama; Love is War
#4 The Promised Neverland
#5 My Hero Academia
#6 Jibaku Shounen Hanako-kun
#7 Tondemo skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi
#8 Daiya no A
#9 Spy x Family
#10 One Piece
Happy with Jibaku shounen, I hope it goes well and sell more for its upcoming volumes. The anime is helping at lot.
 

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I feel like 'm the only one that actually likes the Yozakura Volume 1 cover but then again, I've yet to read the series.

Anyways, I'm curious, what Jump+ series are you guys currently enjoying right now and why?

Dosanko Gyaru is Mega Cute and Mato Seihei no Slave are the ones I've consistently kept up with. The former's this really nice slice-of-life romcom while the latter's been a fun erotic shonen romp that I've been missing. Neither has the story as a strong suit, but they make up for it with fun characters and really good artwork. 2.5D Seduction and Saotome Shimai are also ones I've enjoyed, but they haven't been scanlated in ages.

(3 out of the 4 series being ecchi are just a coincidence. I should start reading more non-ecchi stuff.)
I'm loving Spy x Family and Jigokuraku.
 

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I don’t like like bringing up my personal life on forums, but as an illustrator and story writer myself I feel like some don’t really understand how hard creating your own story and planning a manga/comic is.

I know most don’t mean harm. But I’m pretty sure damn near every axed Creator in Jump puts tons of planning and and effort into their series.
It’s just difficult to successfully execute what you’ve planned sometimes.

Just don’t like when people refer to mangaka being “lazy”. Like, even if you don’t like Yozakura, just flipping through the art and panels you can see how much work put in their. I’ve spent hours and sleepless nights putting together just 3 comic pages, sketched and inked. I couldn’t even fathom pushing out 17 page chapters every week, and don’t know how they do it. Who cares if he chooses to reuse some old art for the cover
I also don't like bringing up my personal life on here.
I am a published writer (non-fiction). However, I've written and directed my own plays as well.
I've been told I can be extra critical of fellow creators, however I find it to be a matter of artistic competence and integrity. Especially if you know there's a chance that you could be serialized in this magazine for up to a decade yet you only plan the first handful of chapters.
Not to mention this is his second series, and he's shown absolutely no growth (arguably regressed).
Also, I've been reading Jump long enough to see countless series that clearly weren't very well planned. Plus we even have statements from Jump mangaka like Yasuhiro who openly said he didn't really plan out Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa which led him choosing to end the series after less than a year despite some popularity. If a vet didn't properly plan, then why do we expect rookies, or second chance rookies to have always properly planned either when it clearly isn't a requirement (only having the first few chapters is) to be serialized.

And again, my issue is not with re purposing art. There's plenty of reasons an artist would do that.
 
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