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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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In a recent Samurai 8 chapter when that planet got Alderanned, didn't they namedrop the names Goku, and Ichigo?
 

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Whoever said that the Guardian of the Witch will have a really controversial aspect, he probably hit the jackpot considering some leaks there are right now. Or probably people will just take it as another plot point.
 

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Whoever said that the Guardian of the Witch will have a really controversial aspect, he probably hit the jackpot considering some leaks there are right now. Or probably people will just take it as another plot point.
Mind being more specific?
 

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Whoever said that the Guardian of the Witch will have a really controversial aspect, he probably hit the jackpot considering some leaks there are right now. Or probably people will just take it as another plot point.
Now I'm curious, what's it about?
 

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Mind being more specific?
I dont know if I can post them but this is basically from a page of the series that a trustful TL explain on discord:

- witches “created” (basically man made)
- we gathered the 3,000 girls who’d just turned 12 years old all over the country
- and implanted in them with the Evil(devils/demons) “mashi” (literally devil’s child - can also mean devil’s seed)

Basically impregnated 3,000 12 y/o girls with the devils seed to turn them into witches.

The word used is mashi literally devil child and the word is exactly like “sperm” which is seishi and uses the same kanji at the end. Only the first kanji changes so they basically put demon’s sperm in them.
 

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Well, don't know what happened to 36, but the constant hiatuses didn't seem to affect the sales before. It might be the direction of the arc itself then.
Yeah, given the number of characters/amount of text this arc, no surprise to see the drop.

And with at least 16 months now between 36 and 37, I think the drop will only continue, and probably for the rest of the arc too.
Only another Hisoka/Chrollo cover could make a difference.

And of course it doesn’t help that it’s been over 5 years since the anime ended, which feels really weird.
 

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I dont know if I can post them but this is is basically from a page of the series that a trustful TL explain on discord:

- witches “created” (basically man made)
- we gathered the 3,000 girls who’d just turned 12 years old all over the country
- and implanted in them with the Evil(devils/demons) “mashi” (literally devil’s child - can also mean devil’s seed)

Basically impregnated 3,000 12 y/o girls with the devils seed to turn them into witches.
Well...that's kinda fucked up.

Cool.
 

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I dont know if I can post them but this is basically from a page of the series that a trustful TL explain on discord:

- witches “created” (basically man made)
- we gathered the 3,000 girls who’d just turned 12 years old all over the country
- and implanted in them with the Evil(devils/demons) “mashi” (literally devil’s child - can also mean devil’s seed)

Basically impregnated 3,000 12 y/o girls with the devils seed to turn them into witches.

The word used is mashi literally devil child and the word is exactly like “sperm” which is seishi and uses the same kanji at the end. Only the first kanji changes so they basically put demon’s sperm in them.
If it's executed well it could be cool high concept science fiction.
The problem is lazily doing gags with the punchline being that it's offensive.
It's like a kid learning curse words for the first time so he thinks just screaming "FUCK SHIT BALLS" is funny without any actual substance, structure, or context that would actually make it a joke.
 

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Yeah, that really depends on how the series will deal with the subject. By itself, there's nothing wrong with the story exploring that. I admit I don't exactly have a lot of trust in it being actually interesting or treated sensibly, but I also don't think it will be terrible or anything.
 

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I mean yeah that's a dark/fucked up premise but I can't imagine it going "this is good actually." Even Neverland had stuff about pretty messed up childbirth stuff and it was hugely popular at that point, so I don't see much need to be worried here.
 

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I'm not going to call foul unless there's a sexual method explicitly used. Just going off the spoilers, that part isn't specified. They could have cast a spell on the girls for all we know, or other non-sexual methods.

I mean, technically the humans in the Alien movies were "impregnated" with the eggs in their stomachs, but there was nothing sexual about it.
 
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The premise reminds of Twin Star Exorcists with the whole child making thing tbh, so yeah, nothing to make a big deal right now
 
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I dont know if I can post them but this is basically from a page of the series that a trustful TL explain on discord:

- witches “created” (basically man made)
- we gathered the 3,000 girls who’d just turned 12 years old all over the country
- and implanted in them with the Evil(devils/demons) “mashi” (literally devil’s child - can also mean devil’s seed)

Basically impregnated 3,000 12 y/o girls with the devils seed to turn them into witches

The word used is mashi literally devil child and the word is exactly like “sperm” which is seishi and uses the same kanji at the end. Only the first kanji changes so they basically put demon’s sperm in them.
Well here goes hope. Probably Honestly it doesnt feels all that dark but more like edgy
 

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I dont know if I can post them but this is basically from a page of the series that a trustful TL explain on discord:

- witches “created” (basically man made)
- we gathered the 3,000 girls who’d just turned 12 years old all over the country
- and implanted in them with the Evil(devils/demons) “mashi” (literally devil’s child - can also mean devil’s seed)

Basically impregnated 3,000 12 y/o girls with the devils seed to turn them into witches.

The word used is mashi literally devil child and the word is exactly like “sperm” which is seishi and uses the same kanji at the end. Only the first kanji changes so they basically put demon’s sperm in them.
Cool. Doesn't seem to hold its punches and play it safe atleast.
 

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Also, man, Jump is really banking on dark series with demons lately.
 

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Also, man, Jump is really banking on dark series with demons lately.
Yeah, the part that actually bothers me is that I didn't want a dark fantasy, wasn't the tone I was expecting. Could be good, but I wanted a more lighthearted but non-gag fantasy series.
 

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I mean, the fact that Kimetsu, a series which features rather brutal violence and a lot of character deaths, got so huge clearly shows that's what the market wants.
 

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Also, man, Jump is really banking on dark series with demons lately.
I don't think it's a recent thing. Didn't Jujutsu start with Noah's Notes and something else dark with demons? I know there's been convos in the past 2 years I've been here about the increase in them.
 

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Haha nah. Yeah, no extended hiatus, but it does make the pacing for wano come out differently.
I constantly see the western fanbase complain about it. I don't know how the local fanbase reacts, but breaks haven't really been normalized in Jump.
Western fanbases are whiny. A lot of current readers get into a series after having watched the anime for a bit. So they automatically start comparing the pacing of one series to the anime and to another manga that they know which has "better pacing".
What they probably wouldn't realize is that the pacing of that particular series has remained consistent throughout in the manga for years.

Same reason people liked to complain about a series using big panels and not progressing the story too much per chapter or like how Bleach fans whined incredibly about the fact that Kubo usually used the first two pages as a sort of recap of how the previous chapter ended.
Its like how reddit works. If whining about something is the trend, people will just nod their heads and jump in. If praising something is the trend, that's what people will do. Bandwagoning, basically.

I doubt the japanese themselves care much about how much the story progresses and rather about how well its done. Japanese adore Oda and they are well aware of the fact that he got hospitalized and why he has to take breaks.
So if the series is declining in sales, its probably cause the content in Wano Arc just wasn't good enough.

Also, man, Jump is really banking on dark series with demons lately.
Kimetsu's influence. MHA influenced series to go for the superhero thing. Kimetsu's influence is a lot stronger.
But the demon thing was always popular tho. It never became unpopular in Japan.
 
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