Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

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Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[OniluapL]

I blame YouTube. There is a dearth of good, high-quality material covering manga on the platform.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

Another question, do you guys think we need another huge-scale adventure manga like One Piece or Toriko?

I don't think need is the right word, but yes, I'm definitely up for that. I wonder if there will be series like that appearing after One Piece ends and there's more space, so to speak.

 

[Ebrietas-]

Hell yes to more adventure manga. Sick of the boring ass urban Japan setting that everything takes place in nowadays.

 

[Minsel]

Well, you already know my answer to this, but yes. Absolutely, 100%, yes.

I think we need a really interesting premise, though. Sailing around the seas and hunting animals/ingredients is good, but for the next big adventure to succeed, it'll need something... more.

Maybe like a grave robbers manga? Robbing famous people's graves?

 

[tirakai]

I think a fantasy world gone modern could be fun, as in your usual swords and sorcery kind of world except in the equivalent of our modern era (but magic powered stuff instead of electricity).

It's been tried a couple times before elsewhere but I haven't really seen a proper good one yet. HxH's got modern tech but not something like that, I mean like instead of having all of our technology or sci-fi stuff instead everything still runs on magic.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

I blame YouTube. There is a dearth of good, high-quality material covering manga on the platform.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

Another question, do you guys think we need another huge-scale adventure manga like One Piece or Toriko?

I think Black Clover wants to head into that direction soon so


And we have HxH.


I don't think anyone else can make ones as good as OP or Toriko so no.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020 ---

I just read last weeks Yozokura chapter and I love the new muscle woman. Reminds me of Noi and Meroleona or Tsunade. Love strong muscles women. They are the best women

 

[Rain Spectre]

I don't think need is the right word, but yes, I'm definitely up for that. I wonder if there will be series like that appearing after One Piece ends and there's more space, so to speak.

Well, you see, I felt like asking the question because of this Raymond Chandler quote I found:

“My theory was that readers just thought they cared nothing but the action; that really, although they didn't know it, they cared very little about the action. The things they really cared about, and that I cared about, were the creation of emotion through dialog and description. The things they remembered, that haunted them, were not for example that a man got killed, but that in the moment of his death he was trying to pick a paper clip off the polished surface of a desk, and it kept slipping away from him, so that there was a look of strain on his face and his mouth was half open in a kind of tormented grin, and the last thing in the world he thought about was death. He didn't even hear death knock on the door. That damn little paper clip kept slipping away from his fingers.”

Basically, what Chandler is saying in this letter he wrote is that he grew disillusioned with mystery novels as a genre because he realized that readers in reality never truly about the mysteries he wrote, but more the emotional connection they formed with them. And reading it, I was left with the thought, isn't the same apply to manga, at least nowadays? With the decline of magazines, it feels more and more like that connection is what builds readerships for manga over spectacle, and series which lack a "base" where they can rest tend to sacrifice that connection due to the amount of covering needed for everything else.

Just something I'm musing.

 

[Pudazuka]

I'm kinda disappointed that Zipman is ranking so low. I thought the latest chapter was quite enjoyable, but seems like I'm in the minority there? Well, at least it placed in the middle of the official Jump-ranking, so the japanese audience probably liked it better.

 

[animeexpert]

I'm kinda disappointed that Zipman is ranking so low. I thought the latest chapter was quite enjoyable, but seems like I'm in the minority there? Well, at least it placed in the middle of the official Jump-ranking, so the japanese audience probably liked it better.

It's nothing outstanding as someone who reads shonen for an long ass time. It's just Ok,, and the mha resemblance is a hindrance

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

MANGAHELPERS POLL ISSUE #9 (2020) - VOTING RESULTS

1. Act-Age 98 - 18 Votes
2. Mashle 1 (New Series) - 18 Votes
3. My Hero Academia 258 - 17 Votes
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba 191 - 16 Votes
5. Mitama Secureity 21 - 15 Votes
6. One Piece 969 - 13 Votes
7. Jujutsu Kaisen 92 - 13 Votes
8. Haikyuu!! 381 - 12 Votes
9. Chainsaw Man 55 - 12 Votes
10. Undead Unluck 2 - 12 Votes
11. We Never Learn 144 - 10 Votes
12. The Promised Neverland 165 - 9 Votes
13. Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru 35 - 8 Votes
14. Dr. Stone 136 - 7 Votes
15. Agravity Boys 6 - 5 Votes
16. Mission: Yozakura Family 21 - 4 Votes
17. Black Clover 237 - 3 Votes
18. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 192 - 2 Votes
19. ZIPMAN!! 7 - 2 Votes

Notes:

-48 Voters (21 excluded)
-Tied mangas decided by which is older

VOTING RESULTS (INCLUDING THE DISCOUNTED VOTES)​

1. Mashle 1 (New Series) - 28 Votes
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba 191 - 26 Votes
3. My Hero Academia 258 - 24 Votes
4. Act-Age 98 - 23 Votes
5. Mitama Secureity 21 - 22 Votes
6. One Piece 969 - 20 Votes
7. Haikyuu!! 381 - 19 Votes
8. Jujutsu Kaisen 92 - 19 Votes
9. Undead Unluck 2 - 18 Votes
10. The Promised Neverland 165 - 15 Votes
11. Dr. Stone 136 - 15 Votes
12. Chainsaw Man 55 - 15 Votes
13. We Never Learn 144 - 13 Votes
14. Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru 35 - 9 Votes
15. Agravity Boys 6 - 9 Votes
16. Black Clover 237 - 6 Votes
17. Mission: Yozakura Family 21 - 6 Votes
18. ZIPMAN!! 7 - 4 Votes
19. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 192 - 2 Votes

Obs: The results including the discounted votes will only be posted here, not in the official thread

Just wait for black clover next chapter. Its gonna be atleast top 5

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020 ---

Did not expect to see Mashle this high. Not that I didn't enjoy the chapter or anything. It was a bit funny, but I was expecting to like it more. Hoping that the next chapter works better for me with new characters and stuff.

Anyway, all the manga I voted are at least in the top 10 so that's cool. Wish Haikyuu was a bit higher tho, this arc has been SO good.

About Mashle, the manga was really well received, it was first place from the very start, in the opposite Chainsaw Man started really low, like only 2 votes above Samurai 8 for some days until started to rise, S8 ended up well tho

Also the number of votes this week was very low and we still had to discount 21 of them! really wish the next one will have more, i feel like a lot of users forgot or didn't wanted to vote.

Yeh mashle is something many can relate for watching shonen, espcially that he took inspiration of the most mainstream series that utilize great concepts of satire/gag/action. So people expect some high Hope's for this author, espcially that hes aware which is important

 

[Mammo]

2. Mashle 1 (New Series) - 18 Votes​

digital high 5 for my /fit/ brethren

there are dozens of us...DOZENS!!

I don't think anyone else can make ones as good as OP or Toriko so no.

why? there are newer adventure titles which are arguably better
Dungeon Meshi, Magi, Made in Abyss, Golden Kamuy...all doing the large scale adventure thing pretty well
you even have Dorohedoro avatar which is another great adventure manga that's not called OP and Toriko, and the same can be said for Hayashida's newer work Dai Dark

I'm kinda disappointed that Zipman is ranking so low. I thought the latest chapter was quite enjoyable, but seems like I'm in the minority there? Well, at least it placed in the middle of the official Jump-ranking, so the japanese audience probably liked it better.

first of all welcome to MH, the latest chapter as a continuation of the current ongoing arc which was not build up probably and therefore people weren't as invested
cool action scenes no doubt but there are very little meaning behind it as neither the world the characters and the conflict were fleshed out

the Japanese toc is based on chapters from 7 weeks ago

It's nothing outstanding as someone who reads shonen for an long ass time. It's just Ok,, and the mha resemblance is a hindrance

I agree with it's not doing anything outstanding part but disagree about MHA resemblance being a hindrance
if anything it helps it, as there are already a built-in fanbase in the magazine for this kinda of stuff

 

[xAsum0x]

It's nothing outstanding as someone who reads shonen for an long ass time. It's just Ok,, and the mha resemblance is a hindrance

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

Just wait for black clover next chapter. Its gonna be atleast top 5

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020 ---

Yeh mashle is something many can relate for watching shonen, espcially that he took inspiration of the most mainstream series that utilize great concepts of satire/gag/action. So people expect some high Hope's for this author

There’s nothing that resembles MHA except for the art style, and even then it’s more of a combination of Odas and Horikoshis

 

[supercow297]

digital high 5 for my /fit/ brethren

there are dozens of us...DOZENS!!



why? there are newer adventure titles which are arguably better
Dungeon Meshi, Magi, Made in Abyss, Golden Kamuy...all doing the large scale adventure thing pretty well
you even have Dorohedoro avatar which is another great adventure manga that's not called OP and Toriko, and the same can be said for Hayashida's newer work Dai Dark



first of all welcome to MH, the latest chapter as a continuation of the current ongoing which was not build up probably and therefore people weren't as invested
cool action scenes no doubt but there are very little meaning behind it as neither the world the characters and the conflict were fleshed out

the Japanese toc is based on chapters from 7 weeks ago



I agree with it's not doing anything outstanding part but disagree about MHA resemblance being a hindrance
if anything it helps it, as there are already a built-in fanbase in the magazine for this kinda of stuff

I'm starting to look forward to your posts more and more.

Who's excited for chapter drops in three hours??

 

[Thundercat27]

Maybe like a grave robbers manga? Robbing famous people's graves?

A fun idea.. for a seinen or jump+ manga.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

digital high 5 for my /fit/ brethren

there are dozens of us...DOZENS!!



why? there are newer adventure titles which are arguably better
Dungeon Meshi, Magi, Made in Abyss, Golden Kamuy...all doing the large scale adventure thing pretty well
you even have Dorohedoro avatar which is another great adventure manga that's not called OP and Toriko, and the same can be said for Hayashida's newer work Dai Dark

Based /fit/ bro.
Also where do you think we are? A circle of manga connoisseurs?
This is Weekly Shonen Jump Thread. No other manga exists outside this mangazine, and the greatest manga of all time is One Piece. Period.

 

[supercow297]

A fun idea.. for a seinen or jump+ manga.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 2, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 2, 2020 ---

Based /fit/ bro.
Also where do you think we are? A circle of manga connoisseurs?
This is Weekly Shonen Jump Thread. No other manga exists outside this mangazine, and the greatest manga of all time is One Piece. Period.

Black Clover > One Piece > Zipman > Demon's Plan >>> Mob Psycho > SnK > Kingdom > Oyasumi Punpun > 3-Gatsu no Lion > Jojolion > Monster

 

[DreamcastDazia]

digital high 5 for my /fit/ brethren

there are dozens of us...DOZENS!!



why? there are newer adventure titles which are arguably better
Dungeon Meshi, Magi, Made in Abyss, Golden Kamuy...all doing the large scale adventure thing pretty well
you even have Dorohedoro avatar which is another great adventure manga that's not called OP and Toriko, and the same can be said for Hayashida's newer work Dai Dark



first of all welcome to MH, the latest chapter as a continuation of the current ongoing which was not build up probably and therefore people weren't as invested
cool action scenes no doubt but there are very little meaning behind it as neither the world the characters and the conflict were fleshed out

the Japanese toc is based on chapters from 7 weeks ago



I agree with it's not doing anything outstanding part but disagree about MHA resemblance being a hindrance
if anything it helps it, as there are already a built-in fanbase in the magazine for this kinda of stuff

I meant mangaka who would make some now. All the manga you mentioned are fairly old. I don't agree with magi but I agree with everything you said that are on par with toriko and op.

 

[Jovan]

Japanese Twitter poll results for Issue 9

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Act Age
3. Agravity Boys
4. Haikyuu
5. Dr.Stone
6. Jujutsu Kaisen
7. One Piece
8. My Hero Academia
9. Undead Unluck
10. We Never Learn
11. Chainsaw Man
12. The Promised Neverland
13. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
14. Mitama Security
15. Mashle (NEW)
16. Samurai 8
17. Black Clover
18. Mission Yozakura Family
19. Zipman

 

[supercow297]

Japanese Twitter poll results for Issue 9

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Act Age
3. Agravity Boys
4. Haikyuu
5. Dr.Stone
6. Jujutsu Kaisen
7. One Piece
8. My Hero Academia
9. Undead Unluck
10. We Never Learn
11. Chainsaw Man
12. The Promised Neverland
13. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
14. Mitama Security
15. Mashle (NEW)
16. Samurai 8
17. Black Clover
18. Mission Yozakura Family
19. Zipman

I hope the demographic for these polls is just slightly older than the actual target audience of children and preteens for black clover cuz if that's representative (it's not) that looks real bad

 

[tirakai]

there's only 127 people in that poll, it's not all that much bigger/more representative than this site's poll

 

[Jovan]

there's only 127 people in that poll, it's not all that much bigger/more representative than this site's poll

Yep. Though I surprised Mashle did somewhat poorly.

 

[Thundercat27]

Black Clover > One Piece > Zipman > Demon's Plan >>> Mob Psycho > SnK > Kingdom > Oyasumi Punpun > 3-Gatsu no Lion > Jojolion > Monster

That's the spirit, my fellow WSJ addict.

I meant mangaka who would make some now. All the manga you mentioned are fairly old. I don't agree with magi but I agree with everything you said that are on par with toriko and op.

Baside magi, the rest of them are ongoing and, in my opinion, are billion times more interesting than op, also dropped toriko half way through, give me reason to pick it up again.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

That's the spirit, my fellow WSJ addict.



Baside magi, the rest of them are ongoing and, in my opinion, are billion times more interesting than op, also dropped toriko half way through, give me reason to pick it up again.

This video will probably explain why toriko is good better than I can