Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Honestly, now this depends more on them than him so there's nothing much he can do besides continuing his story. As Raf said, it's about waiting and seeing how this develops further.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2020 ---

Spoiler: Weekly Sales by Volume - 1/27~2/2

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2 1
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6
#18 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18
#21 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook
#24 Spy x Family 3
#27 One Piece 95
#32 The Promised Neverland 17
#33 Spy x Family 1
#34 Spy x Family 2

Absolute madness

 

[perroloco]

I mean... China and its angry mob kinda went overboard with the whole hate campaign and basically canceling MHA.. It's just a name ffs..
But to me this looks like just some random bs Horikoshi made to maybe appease the Chinese mobs and hopefully get MHA to return to China, it's so obvious this wasn't a coincidence lol he should have admitted to it and said there was no ill will in naming it that.

(I mean, it's a bad guy, not like it's a hero or something..)

This reminds me of a rumor I read online about the abrupt ending of Hikaru No Go, and how it was caused because of Korea/China (Supposedly they didn't like how they had been portrayed in the last arc of the manga)... But who knows, those were only rumors I read online.

 

[pamuchi]

Honestly, now this depends more on them than him so there's nothing much he can do besides continuing his story. As Raf said, it's about waiting and seeing how this develops further.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2020 ---

Spoiler: Weekly Sales by Volume - 1/27~2/2

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2 1
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6
#18 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18
#21 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook
#24 Spy x Family 3
#27 One Piece 95
#32 The Promised Neverland 17
#33 Spy x Family 1
#34 Spy x Family 2

In two more weeks some volumes will hit the 2M mark?

 

[Koni]

Honestly, now this depends more on them than him so there's nothing much he can do besides continuing his story. As Raf said, it's about waiting and seeing how this develops further.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2020 ---

Spoiler: Weekly Sales by Volume - 1/27~2/2

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2 1
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6
#18 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18
#21 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook
#24 Spy x Family 3
#27 One Piece 95
#32 The Promised Neverland 17
#33 Spy x Family 1
#34 Spy x Family 2

And there it is. An entire backlog has sold more dominated than any other manga for that week. Kimetsu is managing to surprise me every single week with how explosive it is.

Fucking hell, this series is gonna blow past 100 million. I’m going for broke. We should make a poll on where Kimetsu print will end up by the time the series ends, or the end of the year.

 

[Thundercat27]

If he decided to end it, he would tell Jump six months ahead. Sorachi detailed that at the end of Gintama, how ending a series yourself goes.

And he failed it spectacularly

 

[Ryuusei]

KNY 1 should cross its lifetime 2 million mark next week or the following one, with other volumes following suit. Is there a possibility that the backlog volumes will sell 2 million this fiscal year alone? Who knows. Nothing much to say on OP 95, still in a pretty bad situation considering previous volumes. SXF continues to be a smash hit and TPN 17 is exactly on par with the previous volume. HQ didn't even rank this week (once again, damn you KNY backlog).

 

[Nemesis]

That incident just shows how much power China has in the industry. If something similar happened for some western country with a bunch of people talking on twitter, I'm not sure this would happen.

 

[TyVip]

Demon Slayer more like Shonen Jump Slayer

 

[WyldViolet]

That incident just shows how much power China has in the industry. If something similar happened for some western country with a bunch of people talking on twitter, I'm not sure this would happen.

I mean, China's crazy influence over media is well known. Disney literally adds scenes with Chinese actors in their Marvel movies just for the Chinese releases. Don't even get me started on how China is trying to push anti-Taiwan propaganda in their co-financed western films with minimal pushback.

 

[Koni]

That incident just shows how much power China has in the industry. If something similar happened for some western country with a bunch of people talking on twitter, I'm not sure this would happen.

Yeah, I’m sure part of the reason for this second apology was Shueisha silently watching in horror as one of their biggest international franchises quickly gets locked out of a massive demographic. Again, it makes me wonder how nobody at Shueisha caught this. They’ll probably be a lot more conscious about this moving forward, which I’m definitely all for.

 

[MysticCatto]

Honestly, now this depends more on them than him so there's nothing much he can do besides continuing his story. As Raf said, it's about waiting and seeing how this develops further.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2020, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2020 ---

Spoiler: Weekly Sales by Volume - 1/27~2/2

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 8 - 147,517/1,831,133
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 7 - 140,1262/1,838,766
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 17 - 139,347/1,841,636
#4 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1 - 138,162/1,884,271
#5 Kimetsu no Yaiba 9 - 137,614/1,824,386
#6 Kimetsu no Yaiba 10 - 135,455/1,815,253
#7 Kimetsu no Yaiba 12 - 131,315/1,799,060
#8 Kimetsu no Yaiba 11 - 129,705/1,799,738
#9 Kimetsu no Yaiba 2 -127,992/1,843,048
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba 14 - 126,891/1,772,348
#11 Kimetsu no Yaiba 13 - 126,854/1,790,744
#12 Kimetsu no Yaiba 15 - 121,844/1,791,108
#13 Kimetsu no Yaiba 3 - 118,908/1,808,766
#14 Kimetsu no Yaiba 16 - 116,069/1,825,313
#15 Kimetsu no Yaiba 4 -112,838/1,782,503
#16 Kimetsu no Yaiba 5 - 110,571/1,773,003
#17 Kimetsu no Yaiba 6 - 109,219/1,771,437
#18 Kimetsu no Yaiba 18 - 85,072/1,842,841
#21 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook - 42,660/677,004
#24 Spy x Family 3 - 30,373/439,604
#27 One Piece 95 - 28,115/1,756,328
#32 The Promised Neverland 17 - 23,337/520,156
#33 Spy x Family 1 - 21,547/618,529
#34 Spy x Family 2 - 20,739/546,546

So this massive hype train is what "infinity train" truly meant

 

[Ryuusei]

Kimetsu no Yaiba light novels have 1.16 million copies in circulation. It's the fastest Jump j Books light novel series to cross the one million mark.

株式会社集英社（本社：東京都千代田区）のJUMPｊBOOKSから刊行された『鬼滅の刃 しあわせの花』『鬼滅の刃 片羽の蝶』の2冊が、2/19の重版をもって累計発行部数116万部になります。JUMPｊBOOKSは、集英社の小説レーベルのひとつです。『鬼滅の刃』シリーズは、2019年2月に第1弾『鬼滅の刃 しあわせの花』、10月に第2弾『鬼滅の刃 片羽の蝶』が刊行され、レーベル史上最速で累計100万部を突破しました。

 

[Rain Spectre]

So, with the current situation with Kimetsu, what message do you guys think this'll send to Jump regarding what readers "want"?

 

[ChocoBar9]

This should have been the statement released since minute 0.

This is verbatim what the first comment was that just reiterated what was already stated and everything which was explained was stuff people had already figured days prior. Its not going to matter whether this was the first explanation or not because this was largely staged as a lench mob the moment the word came to attention to Korean readers.

Most definitely. If it had been attached to that statement about changing the character's name, the damage would have been way smaller right now. Now, it seems like a lot of people are skeptical to come back to the series or don't care about the apology at all. It's good that they reached out and apologized, but it's rather late.

Most companies would flat out don't even bother to respond to begin with let alone to overseas fans, look how Kodansha handled all the fascist accusations that were thrown at Attack On Titan? They did nothing, and how did Isayama responded? He didn't care. After the first statement the hate mob had less to do with Horikoshi's and Shuiesha's response and more of an excuse to throw hateful remarks. There;s no dealing with people like that and even after this it won't make a great deal of change so they were doomed to fail regardless of what they did.

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

So, with the current situation with Kimetsu, what message do you guys think this'll send to Jump regarding what readers "want"?

Good anime adaptations.

 

[ChocoBar9]

That incident just shows how much power China has in the industry. If something similar happened for some western country with a bunch of people talking on twitter, I'm not sure this would happen.

Not really. This has less to do with them trying to make good with China and more to do with not wanted to be associated with war crimes. Truth be told they didn't even have to do this since the accusations came from people who read the series illegally to begin with. Essentially this is Shuiesha and Horikoshi wiping their slate clean of this controversy and if it continues it goes beyond them.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Not really. This has less to do with them trying to make good with China and more to do with not wanted to be associated with war crimes. Truth be told they didn't even have to do this since the accusations came from people who read the series illegally to begin with. Essentially this is Shuiesha and Horikoshi wiping their slate clean of this controversy and if it continues it goes beyond them.

Yeah, I read that a good amount of the controversy from the JP side was that the critics were people reading the series illegally. Often through speedscans, go figure.

 

[ChocoBar9]

So, with the current situation with Kimetsu, what message do you guys think this'll send to Jump regarding what readers "want"?

Nothing. This was a lightning in a bottom and shouldn't be taken as anything but. What makes a series appeal can be a number of reasons, you can make the best anime adaptation you want but it won't matter much if it doesn't click to viewers. Kimetsu was a domino effect that nobody could really predict and doing the exact same thing with the next adaptation will probably not have the same results.

BUT...if I can make a suggestion for the upcoming adaptation of Jujutsu Taisen a big reason I feel that Kimetsu clicked to viewers is because ufotable did a good job putting emphasis on the emotional aspects of the series that I don't feel the manga did well initially hence why it didn't find its audience from the beginning. It made the scenes that was adapted a lot stronger than the source of material which is something that can't be said about a lot of Jump adaptations unfortunately. MAPPA just doesn't have that sort of talent though and I fear that its going to be a fairly straight forwards adaptation as a whole like Dr. Stone but I hope to be wrong.

 

[MangAniMY]

Kimetsu no Yaiba light novels have 1.16 million copies in circulation. It's the fastest Jump j Books light novel series to cross the one million mark.

wallpapers for celebrating 1M (and also because J-books have nothing for february)

 

[pamuchi]

Jesus, I need Wani's response to all this. The croc must be overwhelmed with all this.