Fantasy Jellal vs Sabertooth

[Ramen]

Saw this post elsewhere and thought I'd bring it here.

Jellal

Vs

Sabertooth

Everyone is at their strongest

Who wins?

 

[atlantisreturns]

Sting solos with WSD.

 

[Ramen]

@grey matter You think Jellal soloes ST?

 

[grey matter]

Sting, Rouge and Minerva scale to Historia Wahl. The others should be weaker than Minerva

Even if Sting goes dual elements, that by itself shouldn't change it too much. dual elements Sting could take out Larcade only because he basically nullified ALL of Larcade's abilities, leaving Larcade with just his physical ability to fight Sting + help from 2 other mages.
Dual elements Sting, at best, is giving base Natsu a high-extreme high diff

Jellal should take this mid-high diff IMO

 

[Ramen]

Sting, Rouge and Minerva scale to Historia Wahl. The others should be weaker than Minerva

Even if Sting goes dual elements, that by itself shouldn't change it too much. dual elements Sting could take out Larcade only because he basically nullified ALL of Larcade's abilities, leaving Larcade with just his physical ability to fight Sting + help from 2 other mages.
Dual elements Sting, at best, is giving base Natsu a high-extreme high diff

Jellal should take this mid-high diff IMO

Unless you believe Jellal is blitzing Minerva and the rest then he loses.

WSD Sting scales to LFD and ISD.

 

[grey matter]

Unless you believe Jellal is blitzing Minerva and the rest then he loses.

WSD Sting scales to LFD and ISD.

Jellal is definitely blitzing Minerva.

No lol. Base Natsu >> Base Sting. So LFD Natsu >> dual elements Sting

 

[Ramen]

Jellal is definitely blitzing Minerva.

No lol. Base Natsu >> Base Sting. So LFD Natsu >> dual elements Sting

Not at once.

Sure, but WSD Sting>Base Natsu

 

[grey matter]

Sting solos with WSD.

How?

Just to know, where do you have Jellal, compared to FT members?

 

[atlantisreturns]

Jellal is definitely blitzing Minerva.

No lol. Base Natsu >> Base Sting. So LFD Natsu >> dual elements Sting

Base Natsu >> Jellal. Jellal's super serious Grand Chariot = casual punch from Base Natsu without PoF or amps.

I'm sorry , but I've just seen a lot of atrocious Jellal wank on Reddit , so I'm going to bring this up now in every Jellal thread.

 

[grey matter]

Not at once.

Sure, but WSD Sting>Base Natsu

Jellal is one of the fastest characters in the series. Speed is the guy's main thing

I don't think so. At best, he's at base Natsu level. I consider base Natsu to be low tier Spriggan level

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Base Natsu >> Jellal. Jellal's super serious Grand Chariot = casual punch from Base Natsu without PoF or amps.

I'm sorry , but I've just seen a lot of atrocious Jellal wank on Reddit , so I'm going to bring this up now in every Jellal thread.

base Natsu >> Jellal? Ok.......

 

[Ramen]

Jellal is one of the fastest characters in the series. Speed is the guy's main thing

I don't think so. At best, he's at base Natsu level. I consider base Natsu to be low tier Spriggan level

And? I don't think he can pull off an Tartaros moment and solo. Speed won't allow him to blitz all them at once

Well I got WSD above Base Natsu. Don't know what Natsu would do against Shadow body

 

[atlantisreturns]

base Natsu >> Jellal? Ok.......

Strictly via feats , yes.

I usually don't bring this up since Jellal has got good portrayal despite his lack of feats , but Jellal fans just blew his wank out of proportion on Reddit so you've to suffer the consequences.

 

[Aurelius]

Strictly via feats , yes.

I usually don't bring this up since Jellal has got good portrayal despite his lack of feats , but Jellal fans just blew his wank out of proportion on Reddit so you've to suffer the consequences.

So just gonna ignore how Jellal fared better vs Acnologia than base natsu?

 

[grey matter]

And? I don't think he can pull off an Tartaros moment and solo. Speed won't allow him to blitz all them at once

Well I got WSD above Base Natsu. Don't know what Natsu would do against Shadow body

He doesn't really need to blitz them all at once. One big spell and he takes out everyone except Sting, Rouge and Minerva (Sting and Rouge hides in shadow form, Minerva teleports into her dimension).
He can then take down Rouge and Minerva fairly easily. Actually, scratch that. He can blitz and take down Minerva any time he wants to. Same with Rouge. Dual elements Sting is the only mage he can't casually take down.
Sabertooth isn't really powerful, Bradman took them down in base IIRC.

Sting needs to come out of shadow mode to attack. Future Rouge is the only one who has managed to master shadows, to the point of attacking while in shadow form. Not even current Rouge can do that.
When Sting comes out of shadow form, Natsu can attack.

Strictly via feats , yes.

I usually don't bring this up since Jellal has got good portrayal , but Jellal fans just blew his wank out of proportion on Reddit so you've to suffer the consequences.

I'm not even a Jellal fan lmao, take it out on @Ebony Maw

 

[atlantisreturns]

So just gonna ignore how Jellal fared better vs Acnologia than base natsu?

Acnologia was jobbing. Serious Acno oneshots anyone in dragon form who isn't immortal or God Dragons. This fact can be understood because he couldn't even knock out Wendy in an amped state.

Pissed off Jellal's super serious Grand Chariot scales to Base Natsu's punch , it's a fact. I don't bring this up because Jellal is an unfortunate victim of Alvarez bullshit , but strictly via feats he is nowhere near Base Natsu.

 

[Ramen]

Well WSD is enough to give Jellal a fight, add like 6 other mages and I don't really see it

 

[grey matter]

Acnologia was jobbing. Serious Acno oneshots anyone in dragon form who isn't immortal or God Dragons. This fact can be understood because he couldn't even knock out Wendy in an amped state.

Pissed off Jellal's super serious Grand Chariot scales to Base Natsu's punch , it's a fact. I don't bring this up because Jellal is an unfortunate victim of Alvarez bullshit , but strictly via feats he is nowhere near Base Natsu.

Serious Acno, even in human form, one shots anyone in Alverez arc except Zeref (immortal). The guy basically proved that he could've one shot August as well, when he one shotted Serena

Well WSD is enough to give Jellal a fight, add like 6 other mages and I don't really see it

Depends on where you have dual elements Sting.
I don't consider him strong at all. He may barely make low tier Spriggan level. The guy basically won against Larcade with no magic (Larcade's fight is the prime example of being utterly and absolutely countered), and even then had help from Rouge and Minerva.

6 other mages are one shotted by any of Jellal's strong spells. Rouge and Minerva may evade, using shadow form and dimension, respectively. The rest are immediately taken down.

 

[Aurelius]

Acnologia was jobbing. Serious Acno oneshots anyone in dragon form who isn't immortal or God Dragons. This fact can be understood because he couldn't even knock out Wendy in an amped state.

Pissed off Jellal's super serious Grand Chariot scales to Base Natsu's punch , it's a fact. I don't bring this up because Jellal is an unfortunate victim of Alvarez bullshit , but strictly via feats he is nowhere near Base Natsu.

Can’t argue with that, Acnologia’s jobbing is a fact. Man, this dude Jellal hasn’t had an actual feat in a long time.

 

[Jko]

Sabertooth. WSD Sting is a good fight for him alone. His team tips the scale widely in his favor.

 

[atlantisreturns]

Serious Acno, even in human form, one shots anyone in Alverez arc except Zeref (immortal). The guy basically proved that he could've one shot August as well, when he one shotted Serena

Nope , I don't believe Acno in human form can oneshot Zeref even if he wasn't immortal.

Igneel's power gave Natsu the capacity to use FDKM to it's full potential , and I rank Igneel Natsu as Human Igneel. It basically gave him the capacity to dish out attacks on Human Acnologia's level. And those attacks were actually bypassing Zeref's immortality , since it was power of the dead , so it was Zeref's own durability which was tanking those attacks. And we know Igneel Natsu wasn't playing around , he was bloodlusted. Zeref tanked 9 of those attacks and only on the 10th attack he would've been supposedly killed. I don't believe Human Acno can oneshot him. And may be Touka can tank his attacks too for a while

Dragon Acno oneshots Zeref too because Ignia's one roar attack scales to the entire power from Natsu's guild mark which he received from the guild , which oneshotted Zeref.