Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Stivie]

You're really trying hard with this Stivie kkkkk you're comparing a manga with only 3 (generic) chapters with one almost at 40, and you're comparing chapter 2 and 3 as if there's any meaning on this, the rest the manga was just text and exposition over and over and when the author started to do something it was axed

I'm not trying anything.
I just said that there is no reason to put so much hype on a novice author.
You're saying that GW is generic, but the others, Mashle and UxU are not the culmination of creativity.
Mashle is a blatant Harry Potter parody.
UxU is a Michael bay film, with no story just explosions.

 

[101nemesis]

I don't know how you do it. There's so much quality in WSJ right now.

At least read CSM, you heathen. :P

Haha! I do badly want to get back into some series. OP, CSM, MHA, JK and KNY are on the list but I literally struggle to find time to do stuff as is.
If I do get back to WSJ stuff, I'll put CSM first on my list. :P

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I'm not trying anything.
I just said that there is no reason to put so much hype on a novice author.
You're saying that GW is generic, but the others, Mashle and UxU are not the culmination of creativity.
Mashle is a blatant Harry Potter parody.
UxU is a Michael bay film, with no story just explosions.

The point of Mashle is being a Harry Potter parody, so this isn't something to be used as negative since it's 100% the author intention, is different than the execution of a series being cliche or generic (not really pointing fingers to Guardian here)

So far seems a good Michael Bay film kkkkk

 

[Stivie]

The point of Mashle is being a Harry Potter parody, so this isn't something to be used as negative since it's 100% the author intention, is different than the execution of a series being cliche or generic (not really pointing fingers to Guardian here)

So far seems a good Michael Bay film kkkkk

transformers is not good.

if it’s just a Harry Potter parody and there’s no more stuff, it’s no use.

Even the Black clover was accused of being generic and to this day remains accused of it.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

transformers is not good.

if it’s just a Harry Potter parody and there’s no more stuff, it’s no use.

Even the Black clover was accused of being generic and to this day remains accused of it.

The first Transformers is great.

Isn't "just" a Harry Potter parody but it's mainly a HP parody, also a gag manga, so isn't really suppose to be something "serious and deep", and judging by the overall reactions here and in Manga Plus, so far is doing great.

 

[Stivie]

The first Transformers is great.

Isn't "just" a Harry Potter parody but it's mainly a HP parody, also a gag manga, so isn't really suppose to be something "serious and deep", and judging by the overall reactions here and in Manga Plus, so far is doing great.

Only mangaplus doesn't say if the manga is going well. There are other things in between.

The first transformers is great, but it just doesn't save the entire series.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Isn't "just" a Harry Potter parody but it's mainly a HP parody, also a gag manga, so isn't really suppose to be something "serious and deep", and judging by the overall reactions here and in Manga Plus, so far is doing great.

Don't wanna cut into this argument, but Shinuki...you realize that this thread and M+ reactions are useless metrics, right?

 

[lulukaruins]

I don't understand what Shibata and Jump editorial thinking, they should devloped Sahara Samurai instead. That Kenshin hybrid Trigun has better appeal in my opinion. But, then again I don't see that potential in Shibata's Zipman (Characters, design, and story was reaaaaally bland) I guess he doesn't have what it takes to make a story on weekly basis. It's shame because I really anticipated what he could offer after Sahara Samurai.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Don't wanna cut into this argument, but Shinuki...you realize that this thread and M+ reactions are useless metrics, right?

When i say "here" i'm talking about the reactions so far on internet and Manga Plus in western side, the japanese still a mystery, in theory they are useless metrics, but in the practice isn't like the reactions here don't mirror the japanese at all, most of times we can predict something being a flop after some chapters based in the overall opinion that gets more negative by each chapter and also predict that something will at least do decently when the opinions are overwhelming positive.

 

[101nemesis]

When i say "here" i'm talking about the reactions so far on internet and Manga Plus in western side, the japanese still a mystery, in theory they are useless metrics, but in the practice isn't like the reactions here don't mirror the japanese at all, most of times we can predict something being a flop after some chapters based in the overall opinion that gets more negative by each chapter and also predict that something will at least do decently when the opinions are overwhelming positive.

I agree with this somewhat especially when it's NOT from a returning mangaka.
While the level of popularity will vary between Japan and outside it, I think if something is generally well received outside Japan (when it's not from a known mangaka) chances are it will be at least decently received in Japan. For most cases at least.

I say when it's NOT from returning mangaka because a returning mangaka will have more vocal fans outside Japan especially on forums and places like M+ which might give the impression that the series is generally well received.

 

[Ryuusei]

Shoseki Monthly Ranking - January

January Volumes + OP

#1 One Piece 95
#2 The Promised Neverland
#3 Haikyuu!!
#4 Spy x Family 3
#25 Jujutsu Kaisen 8
#26 Jujutsu Kaisen 9
#27 Black Clover 23
#39 Chainsaw Man 5
#41 We Never Learn
#177 Samurai 8: Hachimaruden 3

30位156400/50位82650/100位37050/200位22700/300位17800/400位13000/500位10200

 

[Rain Spectre]

#177 Samurai 8: Hachimaruden 3

For comparison, Vol 1 was 96, Vol 2 was 110.

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Dunno if anyone's noticed, but UxU has an official twitter now.

 

[SlamMonster]

Another great issue of Jump, enjoyed everything besides Guardian and Mashle, their potential is being wasted big time. Agravity's creative well has already run dry, but its predictable jokes still got me, but damn, the author is real desperate judging from this new character designs.

Also much respect for Shibata for already working on wrapping it up and going out with a bang, unlike most authors last year who just coasted around until they unceremoniously ended it at 30 chapters (except for Double Taisei's madness, loved every second of that coasting), wasting their time and a spot in the mag. I just hope this is a sign of things to come at Jump, because they cant afford this much longer.

The first transformers is great, but it just doesn't save the entire series.

It's not like Bay only made those garbage sequels and nothing else. There is an art even to the over the top, low brow, guy movies, and he is a master of that with Bad Boys, The Rock or Pain and Gain. While Undead Unluck delivers on that too, and creatively at that, which already sets it apart from the rest in Jump, in my opinion that is still selling it way, way short. But six chapthers are also too early to make that judgement, so lets wait and see if it can live up the potential in those hints of worldbuilding and unique motivations squeezed between all that crazy action.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Shoseki Monthly Ranking - January

January Volumes + OP

#1 One Piece 95
#2 The Promised Neverland
#3 Haikyuu!!
#4 Spy x Family 3
#25 Jujutsu Kaisen 8
#26 Jujutsu Kaisen 9
#27 Black Clover 23
#39 Chainsaw Man 5
#41 We Never Learn
#177 Samurai 8: Hachimaruden 3

30位156400/50位82650/100位37050/200位22700/300位17800/400位13000/500位10200

So Samurai 8 vol 3 did over 30k in a month? seems fine to me...

 

[Rain Spectre]

So, for anyone curious, UxU's Vol 1 release was pushed forwards to April specifically because of high demand. Good sign?

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

This one is saying thanks for so many followers despite the twitter account not even being announced yet. Seems like they're implying the manga is "popular" in some of the tweets too

 

[kakilangit]

UNDEAD UNLUCK, has the best FIGHT chapter...
I waiting this for so long... since HxH and Naruto most of the fight are just BRAINLESS brawl.
i hope its true UU had high demand and survived..

 

[Nemesis]

I have to say, It's been a torture to read Neverland in those last 30 chapters. How the mighty have fallen.

 

[TxxT]

So, for anyone curious, UxU's Vol 1 release was pushed forwards to April specifically because of high demand. Good sign?

Kimetsu no Yaiba killer

 

[Nemesis]

UNDEAD UNLUCK, has the best FIGHT chapter...
I waiting this for so long... since HxH and Naruto most of the fight are just BRAINLESS brawl.
i hope its true UU had high demand and survived..

Same. Each chapters is getting better and better. Pacing also is really good to me. I hope it survives.