Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Hey, tell that to the people who stated he is the strongest

 

[Ramen]

Hey, tell that to the people who stated he is the strongest

No I'm telling that to you who can't read.

 

[WoWfan]

Of course not, but most certainly as strong/around the same level as END/FDK natsu

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No I'm telling that to you who can't read.

i can read and that is not an accurate statement they made

 

[Ramen]

Are we really debating that someone who at his strongest who couldn't take down END with PoF is close to the dude who obliterated FH Zeref's body in one hit?

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Of course not, but most certainly as strong/around the same level as END/FDK natsu

That's not peak Natsu though.....

 

[WoWfan]

Are we really debating that someone who at his strongest who couldn't take down END with PoF is close to the dude who obliterated FH Zeref's body in one hit?

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That's not peak Natsu though.....

You mean Darkness of the Heart/Black Magic, I said it didn't I? I said END/FDK Natsu

 

[Ramen]

You mean Darkness of the Heart/Black Magic, I said it didn't I? I said END/FDK Natsu

Yes I mean PoF. Yea after.....

 

[Axiomus]

I said that was base natsu tho........

And that comment wasn't in response to yours.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes I mean PoF. Yea after.....

No, you mean Darkness/Black Magic

 

[Ramen]

Yeah and guess what. When Natsu said this

Hehad received magic from Jellal so according to your logic, Natsu's natural dragon force is less than a 2x boost lol.

Dude I've been Agreeing with you that natsu at his strongest is stronger, but it literally only takes one power up to close the gap. That's all I'm saying.

Yes with Jellal's mp his DF was boosted. I don't see the point.

Cool, is it going to happen? Probably not since Natsu is clearly going to end the series as the strongest mage by far. Gray will still be strong but most likely not as strong as Laxus, Erza, Jellal and Gildarts. Gajeel is probably ahead of him too.

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The Natsu that fought FH zeref >>>>>> Normal natsu ....

Yes but we are comparing both Mages at their peak so.......

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No, you mean Darkness/Black Magic

Yea PoF same thing....

 

[WoWfan]

That depends on who you look at it, Gajeel is relatively weaker than Base Natsu while Gray can go toe-to-toe with END

 

[Axiomus]

Yeah and guess what. When Natsu said this Hehad received magic from Jellal so according to your logic, Natsu's natural dragon force is less than a 2x boost lol.

Dude I've been Agreeing with you that natsu at his strongest is stronger, but it literally only takes one power up to close the gap. That's all I'm saying.

Dragon Force has never been a strict multiplier to your power. Dragon Force is dragonizing your body so that you can use the power of a dragon. Natsu became 2-3x stronger when he ate Jellal's power. The more dragonized you get with dragon force, the strong you are.

The Natsu that fought FH zeref >>>>>> Normal natsu ....

The Gray that fought END >>>>> Normal Gray too.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes with Jellal's mp his DF was boosted. I don't see the point.

Cool, is it going to happen? Probably not since Natsu is clearly going to end the series as the strongest mage by far. Gray will still be strong but most likely not as strong as Laxus, Erza, Jellal and Gildarts. Gajeel is probably ahead of him too.

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Yes but we are comparing both Mages at their peak so.......

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Yea PoF same thing....

No, PoF is positive Emotions like Bonds and Friendship, Darkness is separate is it pertains to Black Magic

 

[Ramen]

That depends on who you look at it, Gajeel is relatively weaker than Base Natsu while Gray can go toe-to-toe with END

Base Gajeel is weaker than Base Natsu the same way Base Gray is weaker too.

Gajeel with his DF can easily go toe to toe with END. Probably beats him imo

DF Gajeel beats Darkness Gray

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No, PoF is positive Emotions like Bonds and Friendship, Darkness is separate is it pertains to Black Magic

I'm not doing this with you again, they are the same thing

 

[WoWfan]

Base Gajeel is weaker than Base Natsu the same way Base Gray is weaker too.

Gajeel with his DF can easily go toe to toe with END. Probably beats him imo

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I'm not doing this with you again, they are the same thing

Gray With Darkness of the Heart DS went toe-to-toe with END, Gajeel did not go DF if I recall, that is just Black Iron form, still no proof it compares, they are not the same thing, it is clear PoF is positive emotions, Darkness of the Heart is Black Magic, goes against what normal magic is

 

[Ramen]

The point is that even a boosted df was only a 2-3x power boost. How you think something like this is insurmountable is beyond me.

Yes definitely mashima is going to have everyone else stay stagnant while Natsu alone ascends into godhood. OH our lord and saviour Natsu will reign as the supreme being in the FT verse..... Please gimme a break. If that's what Mashima wanted to go for he would have done it in the original series. Yet natsu needed powerups to beat his strongest opponents and currently gildarts is still ft's strongest mage.

DF doesn't have a strrict multiplier though

Did I say that? No, give yourself a break and stop saying stupid things.. I said Natsu is going to end up as the strongest for when he fights Ignia (remember this is what I think) and while everyone will get stronger too but Natsu will end up on top.

Natsu is stronger than Gildarts is he can use DF and shit like that before Gildarts crashes him. It's all about how long he lasts

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Gray With Darkness of the Heart DS went toe-to-toe with END, Gajeel did not go DF if I recall, that is just Black Iron form, still no proof it compares, they are not the same thing, it is clear PoF is positive emotions, Darkness of the Heart is Black Magic, goes against what normal magic is

Gajeel, whether it's DF or just a new power-up, destroyed a spriggan with his bare hands.

Jellal, Laxus, Erza, Gajeel, Gildarts, maybe Mira can all go toe to toe with END. END is nothing special. Gajeel could easily replicate that.

I'm not wasting my time on the whole PoF thing again.

 

[WoWfan]

Only with a limited powerup and the cost of some of his lifespan

Erza did not fight with END all out as it stopped there, and it is partial END so there is more room to be stronger.

 

[Ramen]

Only with a limited powerup and the cost of some of his lifespan

Erza did not fight with END all out as it stopped there, and it is partial END so there is more room to be stronger.

Still, anyone top tier can fight and stalemate END.

Yea but it's the END we saw and END will never come back for obvious reasons. So from the END we saw, anyone can replicate it. Hell, a lot of people probably beat him too

 

[WoWfan]

Anyone being Zeref with FH or Acno

 

[Axiomus]

I'm getting confused with all these different conversations. Let me just put it this way...

Natsu in base mode without any POF can oneshot Bluenote with a roar.
Gray in base mode without any POF sturggles against Ur's historia. It takes him zero longsword to put away Ur, and he had Lyon's help.

Natsu with FDK Demolition Fist can oneshot a Spriggan casually.
Gray with Ice Devil's zero longsword/Ice-Make Silver cannot oneshot a Spriggan casually. He must be emotionally charged

Natsu with Dragon Force can vaporize Zeref's physical body, which probably would have won him the fight if Zeref couldn't rewind time.
Gray has nothing to match this.

Natsu at the absolute peak of his emotions can burn Fairy Heart's time magic and defeat Zeref.
Gray is never matching this.

 

[Ramen]

Anyone being Zeref with FH or Acno

You don't think Laxus can beat or stalemate END but Gray can? That's silly. August, Irene stomp his brains and a lot of people from Ishgar beat or at least stalemate him.