Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[kakilangit]

notice, editor comment are different though... UU and AB when chapter got extra page, editor comment they got well receives, rave reviews.. while GotW, editor comment are merely about the chapter itself....its hint??? or just me.....

 

[Nemesis]

MANGAHELPERS POLL ISSUE #14 (2020) - VOTING RESULTS

1. Act-Age 103 - 70 Votes
2. My Hero Academia 262 - 59 Votes
3. We Never Learn 149 - 37 Votes
4. Jujutsu Kaisen 97 - 37 Votes
5. Chainsaw Man 60 - 34 Votes
6. Dr. Stone 141 - 32 Votes
7. Mission: Yozakura Family 26 - 29 Votes
8. Mitama Security 27 - 26 Votes
9. Undead Unluck 7 - 25 Votes
10. Mashle 6 - 19 Votes
11. Kimetsu no Yaiba 196 - 18 Votes
12. The Promised Neverland 169 - 10 Votes
13. Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru 40 - 10 Votes
14. Agravity Boys 11 - 10 Votes
15. Black Clover 241 - 9 Votes
16. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 197 - 2 Votes
17. ZIPMAN!! 12 - 2 Votes
18. Guardian of the Witch 5 - 2 Votes

Notes:

-58 Voters (12 Excluded)
-One Piece and Haikyuu were absent
-Tied mangas decided by which is older
-Total number of votes is the combined between both polls

Makes me proud that the community here liked WNL over this arc. Wish I could say the same about reddit and other places.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 8, 2020, Original Post Date: Mar 8, 2020 ---

Damn, Act-Age must've had a seriously amazing chapter if it beat out HeroAca this week. I'm really gonna have to get around to reading the manga soon. As for HeroAca, this is what happens when a cool minor character with potential actually gets screentime and begins to live up to it. Bonus points for being a female character as well!

We Never Learn's position is going to be interesting come these next few weeks. Depending on how long these alternate routes last and how well they're done, it's position can either maintain it's high position or potentially fall drastically. (Also, if each of the alternate ends are 9 chapters long like Uruka's, then We Never Learn somehow found a way to extend itself into 2021. Wait... these alternate ends would have to be as long or as substantial as the Uruka route, otherwise everyone'll still think of Uruka's route as the canon one, which doesn't seem to be what the author's going for.)

As for the newbies...I guess 4 or 5 out of 8 ain't bad. Seems people are giving up on Guardian of the Witch, though, if it's going down to ZIPMAN's level.

I don't think it's going to end in 2021. More like in 2020 even if he does 9-10 chapters. But I don't think it'll be that long.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I don't think it's going to end in 2021. More like in 2020 even if he does 9-10 chapters. But I don't think it'll be that long.

At best, I suspect Tsutsui will only get 2-3 more volumes out the series, which put it ending around the end of the year.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Does anybody know S8's vol. 1 Amazon (US) Preorder numbers and Day 1 sales in US?

It's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else it's doing amazing, except for Japan so that's why it's ending in Another 3 chapters with Vol 5's release date out. Probably the final volume

 

[Franz]

It's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else it's doing amazing, except for Japan so that's why it's ending in Another 3 chapters with Vol 5's release date out. Probably the final volume

Are you sure ?

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Are you sure ?

About what? Series ending, well yes I'm seeing it all over the Twitter

 

[James Rye]

Ever since Yozakua's first volume sales are out they are getting mad points in this poll here.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Another week, another 1st place for Act-age in Twitter Japan poll

Is amazing how that poll has a lot of similarities with the MH poll. And in both of them, Guardian of the Witch is more dead than Zipman

 

[Stivie]

Another week, another 1st place for Act-age in Twitter Japan poll

Is amazing how that poll has a lot of similarities with the MH poll. And in both of them, Guardian of the Witch is more dead than Zipman

being welcomed on twitter doesn't mean much.
Mitama is better accepted than Yozakura on Twitter and still sells less than Yozakura.
Agravity boys is well accepted on Twitter but so far it's bottom, even though it has gained extra pages (as well as Undead unluck and Guardian of the witch).

 

[RafGL]

At this point, I just think the editorial department is giving extra pages or high exposition to as many newbies as they can so at least one of them sticks in the magazine and they can move into different genres serializations. Even if the reception is not amazing, I guess if they have hope or see potential in something, we'll see more and more series getting better treatments. I mean, it's not a huge push, but it's at least something. Whether it works or not later on, that solely depends on series' quality.

 

[Newkerzy]

At this point, I just think the editorial department is giving extra pages or high exposition to as many newbies as they can so at least one of them sticks in the magazine and they can move into different genres serializations. Even if the reception is not amazing, I guess if they have hope or see potential in something, we'll see more and more series getting better treatments. I mean, it's not a huge push, but it's at least something. Whether it works or not later on, that solely depends on series' quality.

Isn't that basically mandatory though? Every new series from since way back always gets extra pages to promote them and see what sticks. I don't see any difference between now and then.

 

[OniluapL]

At this point, I just think the editorial department is giving extra pages or high exposition to as many newbies as they can so at least one of them sticks in the magazine and they can move into different genres serializations. Even if the reception is not amazing, I guess if they have hope or see potential in something, we'll see more and more series getting better treatments. I mean, it's not a huge push, but it's at least something. Whether it works or not later on, that solely depends on series' quality.

Yeah, if they are going to let series run for 20 or more chapters either way, as with the recent failures, and they don't have any real successes right now, they might as well try something to help them grow or maybe bounce back. Maybe it can, idk, make readers that read the first chapter and didn't care for it come back and realize they enjoyed it now or more than they expected.

 

[101nemesis]

It's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else it's doing amazing, except for Japan so that's why it's ending in Another 3 chapters with Vol 5's release date out. Probably the final volume

I'd like some proof for the "it's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else its doing amazing" bit.

Also, is it confirmed (story-wise) that it's ending in 3 chapters and not just the end of an arc or something?

 

[OtterBrigade]

Also, is it confirmed (story-wise) that it's ending in 3 chapters and not just the end of an arc or something?

that part is probably based on MangaDex IDs only having 3 more spots for it (while every other series got 4) even though there was a convo here right when that was discovered how it could just be it taking a week off at some point in the next 4 weeks

 

[Samael Morningstar]

I'd like some proof for the "it's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else its doing amazing" bit.

Also, is it confirmed (story-wise) that it's ending in 3 chapters and not just the end of an arc or something?

About it's sales in US, from my personal experience and my pals , in Boston 's noble and Barnes when went to buy the volumes the entire area was empty with only 3-7 copies lying and when asked the lady at that counter she said S8 got rapidly sold and now they've reordered more and keep in mind it was just the 2nd day . Not to mention that all over America in our GC people have claimed that S8 is selling well and in many places they are reordering it because of it getting out of stock constantly. This is my personal experience, also in Amazon US the first 2-3 days it had ranked 5th best seller.
Also in countries like Germany France Europe etc they have all sold well, I believe in Germany or France maybe they had sold 70K copies in just the first two days and got out of stock in just 5 days, which is why they issued premiered versions of the volumes and even battery chargers of S8, just recently maybe a few days back, a French user said that now it has sold over 150k copies. Other countries also have sold heavily like they always come in top 15 best sellers in those countries not to mention the people there loving it greatly.

Not confirmed if it's ending or not, but people all over the Twitter are saying so, also this latest volume 5 might cover upto ch 43 . So maybe S8 will be replaced by Kubo's new project

 

[Xzone]

I'd like some proof for the "it's doing great in the US, literally everywhere else its doing amazing" bit.

Also, is it confirmed (story-wise) that it's ending in 3 chapters and not just the end of an arc or something?

In spain it was released the first volume at 3 euros(2nd one is at 7 ) and was the most sold manga.... In the editorial's stand during a convetion in barcelona(the only thing i find about spanish sales).
About other european sales i only found a topeditorial manga releases in france? And nothing more, except people saying it sells well.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

In spain it was released the first volume at 3 euros(2nd one is at 7 ) and was the most sold manga.... In the editorial's stand during a convetion in barcelona(the only thing i find about spanish sales).
About other european sales i only found a topeditorial manga releases in france? And nothing more, except people saying it sells well.

About the 2nd para I've seen some people on Twitter sending files or something relating to the sales of various series, there I've seen S8 always being within top 10-15

 

[yadayada]

About it's sales in US, from my personal experience and my pals , in Boston 's noble and Barnes when went to buy the volumes the entire area was empty with only 3-7 copies lying and when asked the lady at that counter she said S8 got rapidly sold and now they've reordered more and keep in mind it was just the 2nd day . Not to mention that all over America in our GC people have claimed that S8 is selling well and in many places they are reordering it because of it getting out of stock constantly. This is my personal experience, also in Amazon US the first 2-3 days it had ranked 5th best seller.
Also in countries like Germany France Europe etc they have all sold well, I believe in Germany or France maybe they had sold 70K copies in just the first two days and got out of stock in just 5 days, which is why they issued premiered versions of the volumes and even battery chargers of S8, just recently maybe a few days back, a French user said that now it has sold over 150k copies. Other countries also have sold heavily like they always come in top 15 best sellers in those countries not to mention the people there loving it greatly.

Not confirmed if it's ending or not, but people all over the Twitter are saying so, also this latest volume 5 might cover upto ch 43 . So maybe S8 will be replaced by Kubo's new project

The US stuff is anedoctal and not evidence by any stretch of imagination.

It didn't sell anywhere near that much in France. There was a chart of big sellers for 2019 and no S8 volume was even above 45k. It didn't even chart super high in france, it did well but those numbers are literally pulled from nowhere. Volume 1 debuted 10th in the december-january chart for France, volume 2 18th which is below all known well selling mangas and several backlog volumes of Kimetsu ( https://www.canalbd.net/canal-bd_ca...Les-Meilleures-Ventes-CANAL-BD-Semaine-2--196 ).

Germany is not even a big market at all.

 

[OtterBrigade]

I might be off here but I feel like North Americans might have a decent chunk of people in the camp that watched Toonami (with Naruto) growing up but never really got into anime/manga past that and see Samurai 8 in a store with "from the creator of Naruto" and pick up volume 1 just based on nostalgia for Naruto so I'm not sure if volume 1's sales are that important in the US. It would be like making the assumption of its popularity based on how the views for the first week were on Manga+.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

The US stuff is anedoctal and not evidence by any stretch of imagination.

It didn't sell anywhere near that much in France. There was a chart of big sellers for 2019 and no S8 volume was even above 45k. It didn't even chart super high in france, it did well but those numbers are literally pulled from nowhere. Volume 1 debuted 10th in the december-january chart for France, volume 2 18th which is below all known well selling mangas and several backlog volumes of Kimetsu ( https://www.canalbd.net/canal-bd_ca...Les-Meilleures-Ventes-CANAL-BD-Semaine-2--196 ).

Germany is not even a big market at all.

US was from my experience.

Let me check if it was France or some other country that sold that much cause I remember it selling that much just that confused with the country stuff.

I've seen good reviews from Germany never sure if it's not big market or anything