Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file
 
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My bet is still on TPN. It's behind MHA by about 20K for new volumes, but seems to be more than making it up with backlog? It always seems to show up above MHA whenever they both appear on the weekly Oricon chart (at least based on my memory). Strong backlog without an anime currently running and the fact that it's ending soon (with a relatively small amount of volumes) will probably give it a leg-up (not to mention the anime and movie which can give the series a last minute boost while MHA has nothing running).
The live-action is only coming out in December so that won't boost sales this year at least. We also don't know if the whole situation with COVID-19 will force them to delay the anime for a while longer.
 

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For example BLEACH had sold 1.2 millions in the US alone by 2007 (and 52 millions worldwide).. don't know about other manga sales in the US to compare it.

Does anyone know Naruto or DB manga sales in the US? I think maybe HeroAca has sold more than Naruto in the US in that time period?
Looks like you mistyped, Bleach had 52 millions in Japan at that time. Bleach currently has 90M print in Japan and 30M print worldwide, total of 120M print.

With MHA having 5 million in USA alone, it has the potential to beat Bleach's worldwide print! :zomg
Edit: Excluding Japan, I mean.
 
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I don't imagine MHA getting a big number like Kimetsu is doing. My bet is MHA final number will be the final number of volumes + 1 (if MHA ends with 50 volumes for example, it will be 51 million copies in circulation in Japan).
 

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15 hours later and the tweet already has ~170k likes. The last volume cover has ~120k likes lol.

Hopefully a 2M first print with this one. The art on the cover looks a bit weird with how its drawn though.
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Should I have faith and believe?
Shimada saw Toei's new filter and wanted in lol.

I've said it many times now but Kinnikuman deserves a full reboot treatment, yes from chapter 1. I think Nisei got some anime filler BS ending much like Toriko. The 2011 manga still reaches the top 10 rankings and it does well honestly for 40 year old franchise.
 

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I don't imagine MHA getting a big number like Kimetsu is doing. My bet is MHA final number will be the final number of volumes + 1 (if MHA ends with 50 volumes for example, it will be 51 million copies in circulation in Japan).
I meant excluding Japan. I mean with MHA having 5M in USA alone, it could beat Bleach's 30M, making MHA manga a bigger worldwide hit than Bleach. Bleach manga has reached bigger heights than MHA in Japan, both in popularity and total sales.
 

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15 hours later and the tweet already has ~170k likes. The last volume cover has ~120k likes lol.

Hopefully a 2M first print with this one. The art on the cover looks a bit weird with how its drawn though.
Yeah, for the next hours I can see it reaching 200k.

About the first print, I wonder how much will they give to the limited edition? Maybe 1M for the limited edition and another 1M for the standard version? It will fly in minutes if they decide to give it only 400k or 300k.
 

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I recall Naruto being 1.8 at 23 volumes, or something like that
Didnt it sell that much while the American manga publishing was going down the shitter? Not sure if that makes it a lot more impressive, or if everyone just prioritized the most popular series.

Should I have faith and believe?
What would a modern adaptation even be? I imagine they would cut out a lot of the early superhero stuff and many of the gag parts, but even then they could probably only go as far as half of the original anime, not sure what the point of that would be in the grand scale of it all. They could also adapt the new continuation, but i still havent finished the original so i have no idea if it would be a good jump in point.

ZIPMAN ended with the mc joining the ZIP UP police force which is where the ZIPPO oneshot starts
does Shibata regrets not sticking with yomikiri premise? hmmmm...
Always wondered what goes through an authors or editors mind when making such drastic measures. Why completely throw away something that I assume had positive reception in its initial form? Recently NeoLation did the same, the Giga miniseries had a distinct dual protagonist dynamic with a more delinquent and crime focused story, but it was dropped in favor of whatever that unfocused mess the serialization was. At the same time Undead and Agravity's one shot was pretty much remade for the serializations first chapter.
The most interesting case I can think of might be Tabata's, whose Hungry Joker one shot was almost a Toriko like monster hunting manga with some scifi elements, which then turned into a simple modern, contemporary setting with evil supernatural organization, and flopped. After that he stuck with his initial idea from the oneshot of Black Clover and it resulted in a hit.
 

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He got the art he just need a great story.
Or rather a writer as a co-author, because judging by how underwritten Zipman was and even how bland all his author comments were, he really just seems to be lacking in personality to write anything interesting. I dont want to see his awesome art getting wasted any more.
 

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Always wondered what goes through an authors or editors mind when making such drastic measures. Why completely throw away something that I assume had positive reception in its initial form? Recently NeoLation did the same, the Giga miniseries had a distinct dual protagonist dynamic with a more delinquent and crime focused story, but it was dropped in favor of whatever that unfocused mess the serialization was. At the same time Undead and Agravity's one shot was pretty much remade for the serializations first chapter.
The most interesting case I can think of might be Tabata's, whose Hungry Joker one shot was almost a Toriko like monster hunting manga with some scifi elements, which then turned into a simple modern, contemporary setting with evil supernatural organization, and flopped. After that he stuck with his initial idea from the oneshot of Black Clover and it resulted in a hit.
Eh....that's tricky to say. Black Clover's serialization still changed a lot from the oneshot, and Act-Age and Jujutsu's serializations repurposed their sources into prequels.
 

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Chainsaw Man is the new Berserk
 

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I don't imagine MHA getting a big number like Kimetsu is doing. My bet is MHA final number will be the final number of volumes + 1 (if MHA ends with 50 volumes for example, it will be 51 million copies in circulation in Japan).
Nah, MHA is on a downward trajectory already. If it reaches 50 volumes, it's total sales will be less than the volume count. Somewhere along 45 million at most.
 

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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 4/5

#1 One Piece 96
#3 Black Clover 24
#5 Dr. Stone 15
#9 We Never Learn 16
#28 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 21
#145 Mission: Yozakura Family 2
#194 Undead Unluck 1
#224 Agravity Boys 1
 

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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 4/5

#1 One Piece 96
#3 Black Clover 24
#5 Dr. Stone 15
#9 We Never Learn 16
#28 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 21
#145 Mission: Yozakura Family 2
#194 Undead Unluck 1
#224 Agravity Boys 1
I know undead is having stock issues so a big drop was expected, but are the others also having them? Those drops are pretty ridicolous, ngl.
 

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Well, I heard that Japan will declare a State of Emergency and also start a quarantine of COVID-19 Perhaps starting this week, we will see a drop in manga sales.
 

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Should we expect that once Abe declares state of emergency and quarantine, an statement from Shueshia and the other editorials about what measures they will take in this situation?
 

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That definitely is within the realm of possiblities
 
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