Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

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[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[ChrissyR5]

how mori king got Cp after LCP...???
UU still the same position.. which is suck... hope next week start to move up..
MS over CSM is mindboogling.. they had so much faith in mitama or the week fan letter really a big factor
GoTw.. can stay there, the next zipman.. will be the next U19?? cos jump will not let mitama go...

A new series always gets a CP in the next issue

 

[yadayada]

Chainsaw was 4th/5th last around this point as well. Not a lot of point in judging it further for now.

Witch will probs last until next batch.

That doesn't make it a good ranking.

 

[kakilangit]

CPs after the first chapter are a standard, a new series will always get them.

oh okay, dont know that..

well, it will great if UU had same growth as CSM.. and i will be happy for that..

when UU will get CP, man.??.i mean it should be before or after release of volume, as you know, push or adv.. mashle got one while the volume come out june is pointless...

 

[animeexpert]

The current stuff was clearly planned for a while (otherwise Nezuko would've shown up against Muzan) but either way Kimetsu running longer is a great decision, since it's currently the most popular series in the magazine seller 2 million per volume, and is still growing.

Suddenly ending it to put their hopes on a series in dead last that sells under 10k would make no sense at all.

There's no way that this author is stupid to extended his series like cmon. Do you know how hard it would flop, money doesnt matter if it will drop its quality and logic by 1000. Guys remember food wars?? Yes a great example. Kimetsu no yaiba would FLOP, If it will extend to new arcs

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

The ToC is genuinely disappointing this week, not going to lie.

Yeah, every week things from Yozakura to Guardian placed in the middle to bottom, hardly any of them getting a color page too, will not be a surprise if even Mashle start to go down, Nakano sure don't like to inspire much confidence in the new series, always locking them in the back of the magazine.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Yeah, every week things from Yozakura to Guardian placed in the middle to bottom, hardly any of them getting a color page too, will not be a surprise if even Mashle start to go down, Nakano sure don't like to inspire much confidence in the new series, always locking them in the back of the magazine.

I honestly don't get what you want exactly. Jump is a meritocracy, do you want Nakano to just blindly promote everything regardless of popularity?

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I honestly don't get what you want exactly. Jump is a meritocracy, do you want Nakano to just blindly promote everything regardless of popularity?

If Yozakura, Agravity Boys and Undead Unluck are selling decently to good, start to reflect this more in the rankings instead of just putting them in the back, also give them color pages, UU and AB should already have one for the first volumes but Nakano is more interested in giving the 50th color page of the year for We Never Learn kkkk

 

[Koni]

How many color pages has We Never Learn got in the 2020 issues?

 

[animeexpert]

Yeah, every week things from Yozakura to Guardian placed in the middle to bottom, hardly any of them getting a color page too, will not be a surprise if even Mashle start to go down, Nakano sure don't like to inspire much confidence in the new series, always locking them in the back of the magazine.

Atleast it's great to see mashle doing so well. The only confidence I have from an long time that I have fate since chapter 1 and keep on believing that in every chapter

 

[lgrmjauffre]

I feel like people need to realize that a series constantly being put in the back of the magazine, regardless of its actual popularity, just hurts its popularity and growth even more. I can guarantee you there are people who think "oh, I haven't tried this series yet, but I always see it behind all of this other stuff, it must be bad/about to be cancelled" when in reality it could end up being their favorite Jump title of all time. If the series is never put further up to be seen, or doesn't get a CP to say "hey, I exist! Go out and buy this volume!", there's a fair amount of people who will ignore it just because it's new. How do they think series stick around and grow enough for them to pick up in a year and say "see, I liked this series all along!", and such?

Tl;dr: if the manga doesn't get any exposure by being dumped in the back, a lot of people won't even read it, and obviously it won't grow, regardless of quality.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 9, 2020 ---

How many color pages has We Never Learn got in the 2020 issues?

Four, which I actually feel like is less than it had by this point last year, but I may be misremembering.

Edit: by issue 20 last year, it had 4 color pages, a lead color page/half cover with Yuuna, and a cover all to itself, including lead color pages. So it's actually being pushed less this year.

 

[Jovan]

Guardian of the Witch finally got to be Bottom 1 at last. Not that it should be any surprising at all.

Seems like Yozakura just isn't able to leave the bottom for some reason, maybe it just doesn't get enough support by the readers to make it higher despite the sales.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

How many color pages has We Never Learn got in the 2020 issues?

Four, which I actually feel like is less than it had by this point last year, but I may be misremembering.

Counting the fiscal year of 2020, We Never Learn got 6 color pages so far, at chapter 139, 143, 146, 150 (double color page), 151 and now 154

 

[yadayada]

Four, which I actually feel like is less than it had by this point last year, but I may be misremembering.

How many color pages has We Never Learn got in the 2020 issues?

It's actually the sixth this issue, + a color spread.
CPs: Issue 2, 8, 11, 15 (also a spread here), 16 and now 20

 

[kakilangit]

for WNL .... i dont know what the reason behind this?? CP and great ToC position,
for what ?? Anime already end.. get no movie nor Live action... the manga already peak and declined.. and they still push hard.. i thought content manga (no matter how great was) never translated to manga sales being increased like others said..
or fan letter its huge deal, like mitama??

just give others to breath.. UU and Ab or YF for new volumes... Act Age should get what WNL get tho... better position and more CP..

 

[supercow297]

Yayy, BC is ranked well

 

[Nemesis]

How many color pages has We Never Learn got in the 2020 issues?

Less than last year at the same period.

 

[lgrmjauffre]

Counting the fiscal year of 2020, We Never Learn got 6 color pages so far, at chapter 139, 143, 146, 150 (double color page), 151 and now 154

I must have miscounted when I was going through the list. I also wasn't counting newest one in my head, for some reason.

 

[El Jacco]

Covers 2020

OP: 3 (6-7, 13, 19)
HQ: 2 (4-5*, 16)
KNY: 2 (11, 18)
AA: 1 (12)
BC: 1 (15)
DS: 1 (14)
MHA: 1 (3)
TPN: 1 (17)

*HQ only got a LCP in this issue but given that the LCPs are included in this section, it is put here.

Colors 2020

WNL: 6 (2, 8, 11, 15, 16, 20)
CM: 6 (1, 6-7, 13, 14, 15, 21-22)
AA: 3 (1, 18, 21-22)
DS: 3 (3, 12, 20)
MS: 3 (9, 13, 18)
TPN: 3 (4-5, 8, 14)
JJK: 2 (4-5, 6-7, 17, 19)
MHA: 2 (2, 19)
YF: 2 (13, 16)
Mashle: 1 (20)
YY: 1 (17)

 

[Blue16]

Kimetsu no Yaiba #20, Haikyuu!! #43, Spy x Family #4 delayed to 5/13.

鬼滅の刃：コミックス第20巻が5月13日に発売延期 - MANTANWEB（まんたんウェブ）

　吾峠呼世晴（ごとうげ・こよはる）さんのマンガ「鬼滅の刃（きめつのやいば）」（集英社）のコミックス第20巻が、予定していた5月1日の発売を延期することが分かった。5月13日に延期さ…

mantan-web.jp

 

[Koni]

Kimetsu no Yaiba #20, Haikyuu!! #43, Spy x Family #4 delayed to 5/13.

鬼滅の刃：コミックス第20巻が5月13日に発売延期 - MANTANWEB（まんたんウェブ）

　吾峠呼世晴（ごとうげ・こよはる）さんのマンガ「鬼滅の刃（きめつのやいば）」（集英社）のコミックス第20巻が、予定していた5月1日の発売を延期することが分かった。5月13日に延期さ…

mantan-web.jp

I’m guessing that this will be the case for all the Jump manga releasing in May, but those three are the most popular of the batch.