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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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KnY 18 - 2,812,123 (as of last week)
OP 61 - 3,382,588
OP 1 probably have way more sales than that? I mean, One Piece have 473 000 000 sales in 96 volumes that mean his best volume should have way more than 4m sales.
 

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OP 1 probably have way more sales than that? I mean, One Piece have 473 000 000 sales in 96 volumes that mean his best volume should have way more than 4m sales.
it's probably unreported though. I imagine One Piece volume 1 (and select other volumes important things happened) have quite a bit higher but they're never high enough to appear on weekly charts even if they're still selling volumes each week. If we took those into account the question would be impossible to answer.
 

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it's probably unreported though. I imagine One Piece volume 1 (and select other volumes important things happened) have quite a bit higher but they're never high enough to appear on weekly charts even if they're still selling volumes each week. If we took those into account the question would be impossible to answer.
Yeah that's what I mean... One Piece volume 1 probably have way over 10 000 000 sales alone, Dragon Ball volume 1 too.
 

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So how close is KNY to topping OP's top volume sales?

notes:
a - known
b - within an oricon year (#OP 61 is also the highest value known ever in oricon)

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it's probably unreported though. I imagine One Piece volume 1 (and select other volumes important things happened) have quite a bit higher but they're never high enough to appear on weekly charts even if they're still selling volumes each week. If we took those into account the question would be impossible to answer.

One Piece #1 was at 4.646 Million copies in 2010 (print, number by shueisha)

anything from before OP#50 (as in 2008, as in pre-oricon started tracking manga) from oricon will not be remotely close to true value, ~2M+ off each
 

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OP 1 probably have way more sales than that? I mean, One Piece have 473 000 000 sales in 96 volumes that mean his best volume should have way more than 4m sales.
I thought he meant "top selling in a single year". Either way, 10 million for volume 1 is quite the overestimation °°
 

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I thought he meant "top selling in a single year". Either way, 10 million for volume 1 is quite the overestimation °°
been 10 years since last reported number, 5M is a safe bet, 6M is possible considering when that value was known

even with digital, thanks to kingdom giving a usable upper limit
 

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been 10 years since last reported number, 5M is a safe bet, 6M is possible considering when that value was known

even with digital, thanks to kingdom giving a usable upper limit
Yeah, that sounds plausible.
 

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Just for reference, OP volume 61 came out in February, so it made that record in 10 months.

KnY 18 came out in December, so it has 2 extra months for selling. So KnY 19 (also February) might actually be a more fair comparison.
 

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Spy x Family

Volumes 1~4: 3 million copies


According to Shueisha, it's become the second-fastest and successful hit after Assassination Classroom


And SxF Vol.4 is not even out yet because it will be released on May 13. I wonder how many AssassClass have sold before Vol.4 was even released. Did it also reach 3m copies before Vol.4?
 

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Just for reference, OP volume 61 came out in February, so it made that record in 10 months.

KnY 18 came out in December, so it has 2 extra months for selling. So KnY 19 (also February) might actually be a more fair comparison.
Well for One Piece it never had a stock problem and probably sold most of its copies in a month like most manga but both KNY18 and 19 went out of stock several times which is why is still selling 50k-100k+ every week.
 

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According to Shueisha, it's become the second-fastest and successful hit after Assassination Classroom


And SxF Vol.4 is not even out yet because it will be released on May 13. I wonder how many AssassClass have sold before Vol.4 was even released. Did it also reach 3m copies before Vol.4?

Assassination Classroom

Volumes 1~4: 3.6 million copies in print
Assassination Classroom Vol. 3 also had a first print of 900k copies, Spy x Family Vol. 3 had a first print of 400k copies
 

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According to Shueisha, it's become the second-fastest and successful hit after Assassination Classroom


And SxF Vol.4 is not even out yet because it will be released on May 13. I wonder how many AssassClass have sold before Vol.4 was even released. Did it also reach 3m copies before Vol.4?
Geez, when I think about how long it took for Endo to reach this success.... The only thing I regret is that he isn't in the main magazine. Now, I already know the arguments for Endo staying in Jump+, and truthfully, I agree with all of those. I'm just saying that if Endo was in the magazine, that would be a hell of a story to tell.

Rookie: Geez, that's two flops in a row....you really think I'm cut out for this?
Editor: Imma slap you real good now *slap!* You see those two down the hall? *points* That's Horikoshi. One of our biggest success in the last decade. He had two flops before he hit it big. And see the other guy down there? That's Endo. He jumped from publisher to publisher and was stuck in assistant jobs for 20 years before he made SxF. So if you wanna complain, do it after you submit your third attempt.
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Assassination Classroom

Volumes 1
~4: 3.6 million copies in print
Assassination Classroom Vol. 3 also had a first print of 900k copies, Spy x Family Vol. 3 had a first print of 400k copies
I don't know if this is really due to demand, or just Nakano being a cheapskate.
 

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I don't know if this is really due to demand, or just Nakano being a cheapskate.
It's playing safe. If you see the progression of its numbers, you can pretty much guess print has always been a problem.

**300.000 copies - Volume 1 (August 5th 2019)
**680.000 copies - Volume 2 (October 7th 2019)
**800.000 copies - Volume 2 (October 10th 2019)
1.000.000 copies - Volume 2 (November 17th 2019)
2.000.000 copies - Volume 3 (January 26th 2020)
2.400.000 copies - Volume 3 (April 30th 2020)
3.000.000 copies - Volume 4 (April 30th 2020)


Basically, just underprint and keep it profitable.
 

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Geez, when I think about how long it took for Endo to reach this success.... The only thing I regret is that he isn't in the main magazine. Now, I already know the arguments for Endo staying in Jump+, and truthfully, I agree with all of those. I'm just saying that if Endo was in the magazine, that would be a hell of a story to tell.

Rookie: Geez, that's two flops in a row....you really think I'm cut out for this?
Editor: Imma slap you real good now *slap!* You see those two down the hall? *points* That's Horikoshi. One of our biggest success in the last decade. He had two flops before he hit it big. And see the other guy down there? That's Endo. He jumped from publisher to publisher and was stuck in assistant jobs for 20 years before he made SxF. So if you wanna complain, do it after you submit your third attempt.
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I don't know if this is really due to demand, or just Nakano being a cheapskate.
All those failed attempts in SQ man. Nice to see him finally establish a place in Shueisha’ proud history.
 

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Anyone know what Fire Punch's numbers were?
 

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