Chapter Tower of God Chapter 482 Spoilers & Discussion

[Jubei_Kibagami]

 

[EternalWinter]

flawed logic, you do know an irregular can kill zahard, correct? you know the thorn outright bypasses immortality, right?

It's been a long day, I'll take my L and leave

 

[Demonspeed]

No more Zahard VS Urek debate? Good .

You can still talk about this in another thread(as long as you don't talk about content of chapters not officially released), but don't continue here.

 

[EternalWinter]

No more Zahard VS Urek debate? Good .

You can still talk about this in another thread(as long as you don't talk about content of chapters not officially released), but don't continue here.

Begun, the Zahard vs Enryu wars have

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I think it ran its course anyways.

Plus, this was a relatively short, action-y, chapter without too much development.

 

[EternalWinter]

I think it ran its course anyways.

Plus, this was a relatively short, action-y, chapter without too much development.

not true, there's a lot of powers shown this chapter that merit debate. I just have too many finals so discuss em atm, but someone else should

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

not true, there's a lot of powers shown this chapter that merit debate. I just have too many finals so discuss em atm, but someone else should

That's fine. Feel free to shit in the room and run.

What hasn't been brought up that's the most glaring? More White long-stream-named moves?

 

[EternalWinter]

That's fine. Feel free to shit in the room and run.

What hasn't been brought up that's the most glaring? More White long-stream-named moves?

Dowon for starters I think is undertalked about

 

[lianecel]

Begun, the Zahard vs Enryu wars have

enryu without a doubt, he killed administrator without sweat a thing, zahard have contract with 134 of those, yet siu state he couldnt kill even one of them

 

[kkck]

From SIU

There will be more story on Urek and Garam's relationship in the future,
and there will be another more important event coming up,
so if you're interested in Urek and Garam's relationship, stay tuned.

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Yeah but SIU just killed a much more attractive single mom with a sad story like 2 weeks ago

Who are you talking about?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Sniper girl

 

[Sanity Check]

You know the final fantasy 7 remake is out when Jahad's gold item attack on Hidden Garden reminds you of Sephiroth using meteor in the og.

Cool how Bam is slowly but surely assembling something resembling a FUG dream team.

Does Maschenny have daddy issues? Is Bam reminding her of her father a positive/negative thing.

 

[Sousko]

That he did. With tons and tons of help, but he pulled it off!



The 5th corps is shown to be near the Nest, behind the final wall. How do we know the location of the new 4th btw?



Nice straw-man there. One doesn't need to fanboy for White to realize that Kallavan is going all out - at least this chapter.

It was you bu bu bu but'ing about the transcendent skills - no one is bu bu bu but'ing about White.

Not sure why you get to 'call it' when he goes full power either. As @EternalWinter points out the EoB is literally leaking out of every orifice and every panel is his screaming face (curiously missing during Jinsung fight by and large).

Kallavan has to make sure that the sacrifice works, and tries to stop Baam and get past White. He fails at both. There is NO reason for him to withhold at this point and EVERY reason to believe he'd be going all out to stop Baam.

We also don't know his 'best moves' were used against Jinsung - you're assuming. Perhaps raw EoB is on another level from mere 'moves' (transcendent or otherwise). Kallavan didn't even have to try with Jinsung - at ANY POINT. Even after tanking a near-fatal blow, he casually fucked Jinsung's arms up. Prior to that he knocked him around like a rag-doll, and Jinsung had no ability to stop it.

But, let's assume you're correct and for some unknown and ridiculous reason Kallavan has more in the tank and is STILL WAITING to unleash it.

That means he's allowed Yolker to get punked, White to get the best of him repeatedly, lost an arm, and - most importantly - has failed YET AGAIN to stop Baam... and this time it's worse because now the sacrifice was in vain because he didn't stop Baam from saving everyone and now even Yas admits that the 4th is done and the battle at the first wall is lost. Not to mention him vowing to stop Baam after getting egg on his face from the first L he took when he failed to take Baam in. He's extra motivated to stop Baam and White in the process and simultaneously make the sacrifice have meant something, anything. To the point he'd threaten Ravioli's life over it (he clearly values his subordinates).

That means Kallavan has LOST. Even IF he is withholding against all reason - to what, wait until the important time to strike has passed? lol - this at the very least means he's an incompetent fighter, irrespective of the marginal strength he may or may not be sitting on...



Agreed... but why would Baam wait for that to even happen? Why not just get them out before the explosion?

What you are describing happens in a fraction of a second, and would be happening point-blank for those at the Cage. Baam's arrow can apparently bridge that distance and go to work faster than an explosion? mkay.

Edit - not just faster than an explosion, faster than an explosion that's already happened.



I think an admin might have something to say about that...

Regardless, the claim that she killed 99% (first it was 90% btw, the figure isn't even consistent) appears and disappears just to reappear on her wiki. It is NOT SOURCED. I can't find a source to this claim - which would put her damn near the top if not just under Phanti if so. Can you?



@Jack Van Burace makes a good point later that the tippy top seems to be less about influence.

- Enryu has no influence, might not even be in the tower... yet ranks higher than Zahard and has no recent feats beyond his only feat in the tower
- same for Phanti
- Urek wants to FIGHT Phanti for a higher rank
- Eduan wants to fight Urek to regain a higher rank in the tower
- No one knows if Urek could take Zahard, so they probably defer to 'influence' as king Zahard ranks higher. If there was good evidence that Urek could best Zahard - like Enryu and Phanti, he'd rank above Zahard plain as day. We have precedence in the rank 1 and 2 of people that came in after Zahard.



Well, if he hasn't in 20k plus years, then it's not likely he ever will get to that point.

The context is that Enryu has powers that exceed the tower itself, and thus have been labeled 'heretical'



I doubt that Urek has actually fought Zahard. But I do agree there are hints in the rankings at that level that it is based on who can beat who...



On a side note I wonder what beef one can have with one of the most powerful axes in greater (outside the tower) story. It's clear that Urek doesn't know that Phanti is an axis and/or what that means based on his comments about fighting him and willingness to go against a being that can blink him out of existence.



Urek may have nothing over to gain from Baam, but he seems to want to at least befriend him since they are cut from the same cloth - being indy contractors and irregulars. He's certainly monitoring his activity.

Maybe Baam can gain the power or access to help him in the end after all.



Maybe, maybe not.

Some of us like EVK and she's a fucking wildebeest.

Either way; this just in... people like the attractive characters more in media!

Bro number 1&2 feats are influential. Number 1 immediately teleported to top of tower slayed all Jahad high ranking guards guarding him made it to his chambers just to show him that he wasn’t shit then left. Number 2 teleported to the 52nd floor, beat a fucking administrator, turned the entire floor into a wasteland and left behind the legacy of the thorn that people having been trying to collect for hundreds of years. Number 3 climbed with 11 other adventurer irregulars and became the king of the entire tower. And number 4 doesn’t even care to be in the tower so he hasn’t done anything with grand feats because he simply doesn’t care and everyone is too scared to provoke him so they leave him and his organization alone. Even Po BiDau said Urek didnt belong in the tower because his presence in the Tower was like a shark stuck in a small fishbowl AFTER he turned down a fight when Urek asked him if he wanted to fight since he had a problem with something Urek did. Urek was stronger then a GUARDIAN when he was only a regular not even half way up there tower. He was much stronger then the strongest family head before he became a regular. I bet Jahad isn’t stronger then that guardian as he is even right now.

 

[cash2088]

Wait so, Kallavan dropping major shinsoo bomb dumps this chapter was what? Tanking? Lol

 

[shaheer]

well rachel is an irregular

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The problem was that you couldn't wait for people to finish reading the chapter tbh, given that the teleportation did occur

But that's what happens when you come in with preconceived notions of how awful everything will be

The problem is you can't read English given there is a question mark at the end of my statement which implies I am asking.

 

[cash2088]

I kinda got lost in the flatulence, I mean shinsoo explosions!!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

You know the final fantasy 7 remake is out when Jahad's gold item attack on Hidden Garden reminds you of Sephiroth using meteor in the og.

Cool how Bam is slowly but surely assembling something resembling a FUG dream team.

Does Maschenny have daddy issues? Is Bam reminding her of her father a positive/negative thing.

She's crazy. Ofc she has daddy issues

 

[cash2088]

She's crazy. Ofc she has daddy issues

I was told it was referring to Zahard, I’m lost now.... Edahn or Zahard????

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Who be Maschenny’s daddy?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Well, all the princesses are 'daughters' that are pledged to be potential wives. So take your pick.

 

[Demonspeed]

I am 100% sure it's Zahard. And most princesses don't know about that marriage thing. Yuri called Zahard father before leaving too IIRC.