Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Will he ever surpass Acno?

Feats wise Acno seems stronger of the two. So I doubt. Acno is more hax as well.

 

[Ronin31]

Erza won't overtake Natsu. POF Natsu >>> POF Erza. His power is based on POF. By the end Natsu will probably solo Ignia who want 1 vs 1 with him. So he will end up as the strongest.

Erza is also base on PoF. I don't think Natsu PoF >>> PoF Erza. But perhaps, at the end of the Manga, Natsu will…..
They are the two strongest people in this category

Gray won't surpass Laxus or Gildarts. Even with PoF they're stronger.

For Gray perhaps, I was also hesitate....

 

[grey matter]

Well I am a Laxus fan, more than Erza but you think here it's Erza's wank ? Read all posts about Laxus. It's Laxus's wank. People even think that he blitz Acno and could defeat August.... Are you serious people ?
Some here are comparing them by feats and facts, base on the Manga and, again, people are not saying that Erza is above him. It's not wank. People saiying that Laxus can trash Erza with a hand in the back is wank. People thinking that he is on par of Gildarts, August or Acno is clear wank.
Compare their feats.... Erza is >>> Natsu since the beginning. As well as Laxus. Look at their portray, statements by characters (Makarov, Mystogan, Jellal).
Proove with facts and feats that he can trash Erza without going all out even in the beginning....

Again, I am Laxus fan. But I don't put him above Gildarts because Gildarts is stronger by feats and statements.
By statements and feats, Erza is above Jellal and match Laxus. Mystogan and Makarov said that she was at their level, more or less. The gap isn't that far. Clearly not....

Highly doubt it

Nobody except one person has claimed he blitz Acno. Nobody mentioned he could defeat August

You clearly are. There are quite a few more I saw here.

Literally nobody said any of those except the Gildarts one (and I clearly remember you saying Erza is on par with Gildarts lol, so miss me with that), it's all in your head. As for Gildarts, currently we don't know, since Gildarts hasn't made an appearance yet (as for my opinion, Gildarts would mid-high diff Laxus). But nobody is arguing that he'son par with Gildarts in the past.

Quite easily:
- In TOH: Erza needed POF to beat Ikaruga, someone quite easily below Jellal. And an additional POF to defeat nerfed Jellal (nerfed Jellal caught her in dark sphere and Erza nearly gave up there before getting friendship).Note, this is what nerfed Jellal did, full power Jellal is far stronger. We know that full power Jellal and Laxus are around same level, so that scales to Laxus
- Jellal one shotted Natsu with a GC while holding back (due to being afraid of damage to tower). This scales to Laxus. Erza cannot one shot Natsu in a serious fight, not happening. Jellal's feats scale to Laxus
- Laxus one shotted Gajeel and Natsu with a roar. Erza can't do that in a serious fight.
- Laxus did better against Hades than entire team Natsu, buffed by Wendy, combined. Even if you make the argument that team Natsu was injured (injuries never seem to affect main cast, but just entertaining that argument for the sake of it), their combined effort, while enchanted, still wouldn't be below full power Erza
- Laxus defeated Jura, while Mira thought Erza and herself couldn't beat him two v one. You might claim that these are just words, but the manga portrayal regarding Jura is still valid
- Erza was Kyouka tier in stats, while Laxus low diff'd Tempesta who could give LFD Natsu high diff.
- Laxus was about to gravely injure Ajeel with a single attack, who would've beaten Erza if not for Bisca's help (in before "Marin helped Ajeel", Ajeel didn't do damage and was just gloating while Marin's magic was effective. Re-read the fight if you don't believe me). Even if you don't believe August's statement regarding this, the portrayal is still there.

It's not like we have any feats from Jellal which can be compared (there is literally zero means by which we can compare Jellal with Laxus or Erza in this arc based on feats), but by portrayal (which is the only means to compare since feats aren't comparable) he's Laxus level and hence above Erza, even if it's barely. If it were to count, Erza couldn't break free from his bind snake, which he casually casted on her.
She's not on par with Laxus, she got many external buffs in that fight, which I'm sure you'll protest. And Laxus still came out on top, after defeating Kyria just before. He still running around, while Erza can barely even stand, which implies that Laxus laid down because of exhaustion while Erza went down due to injuries and exhaustion.
Makarov didn't say anything, he was just hoping Erza could fight Laxus. He hoped the same for Natsu too.
Laxus acknowledged Mystogan as his equal, while he scoffed at Erza. While, all Mystogan said was, to not underestimate Erza.

 

[grey matter]

Mashima stated that he would do next gen if the fans wanted it (which I think he knows they do).

God, please no! Not another Boruto cancer

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ok here you are saying that GS with a fraction of his power gave gildarts bloody lip. and now you are saying that mira maybe can win against GS so that mean maybe she can gave gildarts more than a bloody lip with her fraction power is that really what you think?

and also you said that GS is no diffing jellal really? if he is no diffing jellal then all it takes from GS to deafet mira is just sneazing on her because jellal is >>>>mira

Jko likes Mira too much and hates Jellol too much lol. IIRC, he thinks base Natsu > Jellal.

 

[Brandish μ]

Natsu, Wendy and Erza will be the top 3 'peak' powers in FT.

 

[Aurelius]

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It was just a reference to the joke on the chap thread, lol. You even liked those comments

1) Natsu
2) Erza
3) Gildarts
4) Laxus
5) Gray
6) Mira
7) Gajeel
8) Elfman
9) Wendy
10) Lucy....?

Gray will surpass her I think.

Wendy 9th? Fuckin Elfman above her

I think Wendy would push out both Gray and Mira from the top 5 lol. Lil loli is gonna be broken by the time she is an adult.

Wendy the OP Loli will be second strongest. Erza will be third.

See now these people know what it's all about. By potential shown, she will be number 2 in the guild in her prime. EZ money

 

[Jko]

ok here you are saying that GS with a fraction of his power gave gildarts bloody lip. and now you are saying that mira maybe can win against GS so that mean maybe she can gave gildarts more than a bloody lip with her fraction power is that really what you think?

and also you said that GS is no diffing jellal really? if he is no diffing jellal then all it takes from GS to deafet mira is just sneazing on her because jellal is >>>>mira

Jellal feats are worse than Gray/Gajeel/Base Natsu tbh . Skullion stomped Gray and Mira in her weakest soul is equivalent to him. Jellal had many chances to show his power yet time and time again he is getting beat up by people base Natsu could oneshot .

You acting like I said GS could no diff Laxus or something and then I said maybe Mira can win.

God, please no! Not another Boruto cancer

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Jko likes Mira too much and hates Jellol too much lol. IIRC, he thinks base Natsu > Jellal.

It could be good as miniseries that let's us peak into how powerful the grown members are and what the new gen looks like.

Natsu didn't need an entire chapter or help from a injured Erza to beat Neinheart. He scrubbed that fool on steroids with two basic punches lol. His Gears fight was pathetic as well. God Seeds have low physicals yet Jellal was getting beat up by basic punches from Gears, the tactician.... He would be lights out if that was Natsu punching him.

It was just a reference to the joke on the chap thread, lol. You even liked those comments



Wendy 9th? Fuckin Elfman above her







See now these people know what it's all about. By potential shown, she will be number 2 in the guild in her prime. EZ money

Yeah. Wendy is trying to go from weakest in the guild to strongest. You'd think she is the MC by how much spotlight and buffs she has been getting lately.

@Kurumi Tokisaki You didn't have to do my boi Romeo like that.

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Base Natsu is also pretty dang strong in his own right. This attack was the longer than Aldo's head.

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I don't see Jellal having the dura to tank that attack lol.

 

[Jko]

jellal=laxus so saying GS no diff jellal it's like saying GS no diff laxus, and both jellal and laxus are >>>>>mira weather you liked it or not.

really still talking about that jellal jumped to that beam cause he wanted to protect kagura then he pushed back by the spell and drown in the sea and the air cutted off him nainhart beam didn't do any damage to him.


speaking of feats jellal blocking acnologia attack is much more impressive than anything mira did from the strat of this series till now and btw what feats mira have to be consider above gray and gajeel?

gray and mira+(((elfman)))already fought and he beated them i don't care what happened between mira and skullion

No. Laxus >>>> Jellal. Mira has better feats than Jellal whether you like it or not.

Natsu jumped in front of an attack for Lucy yet didn't KOed. Jellal knew the attack was coming and braced for it yet still got Koed. You don't get KOed from "drowning" for two seconds lmao. You however drown if you are KOed.

Hoho look at you running to those Aco feats bcs Jellal's feats are utter crap. Guess what? Makarov already did what Jellal did on Tenrou and every high tier in the guild is clapping Makarov. So it's not really an impressive feat. I honestly can't fathom how anyone believes Jellal feats against Acno are legit. The boy got clapped by fodder heart, beat up by Gears and fodderized along with his guild by August. All those people are fodder to Acno. Do you see Erza fans run to her feats against Acno when she gets puts up against people like Laxus or Gildarts? No, bcs she actually has some damn good feats on her own lmao.

Stalemating Skullion who no sold Gray's best stuff in her weakest soul would obviously put her above Gray and since Gray is pretty much even with Base Natsu and Gajeel then that would put her above them. She also hurt Madmole with her attacks .

Gray fought an injured Mira and it was stated he only fought her and had a high diff fight. His ice was already stated to be useless and he had to wait for Mira to be injured to fight her. Narrative says Mira is far above Gray. You don't care that it has been consistently shown that Mira >>> Gray? Lmao.

You try to use Jellal's inconsistent feats to bolster him, but ignore Mira's consistent showings. Bruh I'm .

 

[One4All]

Natsu,Wendy and Erza will be the strongest in FT at their peak. Natsu's 1st because,well he is Natsu. Wendy next because her magic is really OP. She was able to counter Irene and WW suprisingly at young age. If Natsu didn't have feats on breaking hax,I'll put Wendy at the strongest.lol. Erza had insane durability and attack power with or without POF. She was also able to blitz Kyouka while losing all her senses(like WTF??POF at its peak!).

Also,these 3 are Mashima favorites and seemed to be the MCs of FT with the amount of screentime and buffs given to them lately.

I wonder though,is Gildarts already at his peak?because that's what I think he is.

 

[Ramen]

Laxus feats >>>> Jellal feats

 

[Acnologia2415]

IMO, only Jacob, Brandish and Dimaria....that too probably. Because their main thing is hax, and full power Mira might be strong enough to be able to bypass those hax.

Neinhart can just summon a single Spriggan historia (instead of 3) and power it upto full power or even higher (since IMO Neinhart's MP is above average)..
Bradman has Ice Devil slaying powers. Even if that's not effective on Mira (depending on whether Gray used it against Mira in off screen fight, we don't know), his hax is too much.

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What if Mira has grown strong enough to bypass the hax?

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I doubt Mira has grown strong enough to bypass the hax.

 

[grey matter]

Laxus feats >>>> Jellal feats

Their feats aren't really comparable. Laxus just gets more flushed out and longer fights (and hence feats)

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I doubt Mira has grown strong enough to bypass the hax.

Yeah, maybe. I don't know either, that's why I said it's only a possibility.

 

[Ramen]

Their feats aren't really comparable. Laxus just gets more flushed out and longer fights (and hence feats)

..........which means Laxus is superior.

 

[grey matter]

..........which means Laxus is superior.

Not really, it just means Jellal doesn't have enough feats, which allows comparison. The last time they could be compared by feats was when they faced Jura.

Lacking feats =/= weaker

 

[Ramen]

Not really, it just means Jellal doesn't have enough feats, which allows comparison. The last time they could be compared by feats was when they faced Jura.

Lacking feats =/= weaker

Laxus >>

 

[Ramen]

jellal is a side character who is not belong to FT guild he is still relevnt because he is erza's lover if he had nothing to do with erza mashima would've wasted a great character just like how he wasted jura and other great characters for the sake of FT and friendship, those little feats and portrayal he had are enough for me to considre him=laxus

Good for you.

 

[Jko]

jellal=laxus everyone knows that you are the only one i saw saying that laxus>>>>jellal.

if you are talking about jacob then that was a knife not a magical attack and if you are talking about august that was fire and natsu restince to fire. show a panel where jellal had any damage from that beam.

i didn't run to it he had another good feats but i mentioned this cause its the better one for example erza>mira he casted bind snake in erza and worked so it will work on mira too and he will drop grand chariot (your faviorite spell) on her boom fights over, he also one shotted nainhart one shotted gears destroyed oracion seis, pre TS beated erza and natsu with his half power.

now let's see mira feats deafed jacob closing his eyes and didn't use his hax she was exhusted but also jacob was nerfed, spend all of her magical power against two enchanted swords, stalemating skullion off panel, and jellal is >>> skullion btw, she didn't do anything to madmole elfman was the one fighting him.

first makarov pre TS was>>>>>>anyone from FT except gildarts ,second makarov held acno for a moment didn't blocked any attacks from acno and even that acno gild said that he wasn't serious as he was when he faced him.

as i said don't care what happend between skullion and mira since gray and mira+elfman fought and beated both and i think he did it in base too.


i'm just doing what you are doing using mira off paneled feats to bolster her, and ignoring jellal paneled feats and portrayal

Nope, I am not, Laxus >>> Jellal. We have given Jellal a pass for his lackluster feats with his "portrayal" and "hype" and that only amounted to beating Gears lmao. Time to stop giving Jellal special treatment.

But you did run to it bcs his other feats are subpar lol. Bind Snake only worked bcs Erza was distracted again. He never used that once in the midst of battle. Grand Chariot =< two basic Natsu punches lmao. So no, Mira isn't getting rocked by GC at all lol. She took attacks and dished attack against Skullion and Madmole, which Skullion tanked Gray's strongest arsenal and no diffed him and Madmole ate a FDK punch for breakfast.

Doesn't matter if it was magical or not, he completely blocked the attack and didn't get KOed lol. Doesn't matter if August was heat based spell he still wasn't KOed by the concussive force of the spell. We already know Natsu can't negate concussive force as shown in the Jackal fight. Jellal got oneshotted by Neinheart while Base Natsu took August's spell.

Jacob wasn't nerfed in the fight. He had complete awarness of his enemy and surroundings (only slipped once due to terrain change) and hit Mira multiple times. Nerf means your stats or magic is weakened is some way which it clearly wasn't as he was 100% healthy. He just didn't use transport. Not using your hax <<<<<<<<< not using your magic lmao. Mira ended the fight with one BSS punch and fought this dude in Base form form for the majority of the fight. The same guy that no diffed Base Natsu level attacks. Again, having your eyes closed doesn't nerf any of his physical or magical abilities. He also stated that it wasn't a weakness since he can see presences. It's like saying Daredevil is nerfed bcs he is blind but completely ignore his sonar sense lmao.

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Who the hell cares if Pre-TS Makarov > pre-skip characters??? He is not stronger than any of the high tiers currently lmao. Makarov blocked Dragon Acno's charge lol.

Gray only fought Mira. This again stated in the chapter. Find proof he fought Elfman bcs I have proof he went all out and had a high diff with Mira alone.

Where did I ignore Jellal's panel feats? Oh you mean the Acno ones that clearly are inconsistent with his showings unlike Mira's? You can keep trying to bolster those feats, but Jellal got oneshotted by fodder heart and beat up by a Doom level character. Acno would have God Serena Jellal any time he wanted and wasn't impressed by Jellal in anyway, shape, or form lmao. Not as good a feat as Jellal fans claim.

Jellal doesn't have portrayal on his side anymore. Dude got dissed three times over in the 100YQ. By portrayal Mira and Laxus is greater than Jellal since Natsu wanted to fight them over Jellal. Gray's group had to strategize a way to defeat Mira and waited till she was injured to the point Gray's GF stated he was a coward to fight her like this, said they didn't know if they could beat Laxus altogether, and yet no one said they didn't think they could take Jellal lmao. His portrayal has been shot out of the sky for the longest time now.

 

[Ramen]

Where is Jellal's so called portrayal that's puts him equal to Laxus? Juvia doesn't know if her, Gray, Lucy, and Cana can beat him altogether.

Natsu doesn't care about him. Everyones been aiming for Mira and Laxus the whole time.

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Laxus has the better feats, and the better portrayal.

 

[Aurelius]

Where is Jellal's so called portrayal that's puts him equal to Laxus?

You're right, Jellal's better than him. Has more titles, wizard saint, guild master/founder CS, ruler of tower of Heaven. Put the continent on notice, while the other was a spoiled brat who threw a tantrum for rights to the guild. Actually served for his crimes. And lastly has a queen.

 

[Ramen]

You're right, Jellal's better than him. Has more titles, wizard saint, guild master/founder CS, ruler of tower of Heaven. Put the continent on notice, while the other was a spoiled brat who threw a tantrum for rights to the guild. Actually served for his crimes. And lastly has a queen.

Biggest lol