Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Almost sure that i will just go back to the 1 point in the traditional and keep the 9, 8, 7, 5 and 3 in the comments, it works better and is much better balanced.

My goal is to make it possible that the biggest number of series can be appreciated and voted by it fans (with balance ofc), top 3 simply doesnt work with only 45 ~ 55 voters, it would just go back to "Tied" hell and turn into the "top 5 club" with the same series receiving all votes every week and the other half rotting, this would be boring af, top 5 allows to be much more diverse and adding extra points based in the positions makes it more fun and also prevents from the tied problem, also think about the ranking more like points instead votes per se, you as a person have X points and divides at your wish between your 5 favorite chapters of the week.

 

[101nemesis]

Agravity Boys #01: 5,186 (3 days)
Agravity Boys #02: 5,585 (3 days)

Mashle #01: 4,110 (week 5) / 35,626 (total)

The word of mouth for Mashle must be great for it to still be hanging onto those numbers in week 5.

 

[Brizzi]

Almost sure that i will just go back to the 1 point in the traditional and keep the 9, 8, 7, 5 and 3 in the comments, it works better and is much better balanced.

My goal is to make it possible that the biggest number of series can be appreciated and voted by it fans (with balance ofc), top 3 simply doesnt work with only 45 ~ 55 voters, it would just go back to "Tied" hell and turn into the "top 5 club" with the same series receiving all votes every week and the other half rotting, this would be boring af, top 5 allows to be much more diverse and adding extra points based in the positions makes it more fun and also prevents from the tied problem, also think about the ranking more like points instead votes per se, you as a person have X points and divides at your wish between your 5 favorite chapters of the week.

I don't know, I understand you're trying to make it more balanced, but to me all these changes are getting a little messy.

I really liked when we would vote for out top 5 series and that was it. It solved the problem with ties we were getting with only 3 votes, and even though some series were always at the top / bottom, I think that's normal and this organic growth is the one that's the most fun to follow.

At first we were trying to create our weekly ranking for Jump series, but now we get different series from Jump + and Dragon Ball Super and Boruto all in the mix and the voting system changes frequently. With all that said, I really appreciate the time and effort that you put to the poll.

 

[Stivie]

Agravity is similar to Kamio Yui. Both performed badly in the ToC (with no CPs and always placed at the bottom), didn't have good sales but still managed to live on for a while because Jump had other stuff ending or performing worse. It shouldn't be much longer before Agravity out of the magazine.

The performance of kamio yui was worse than that of Agravity, it only lasted because he was the author of Nuraryhion no mago.
If Agravity boys had received more visibility in the jump, sales might have been better.

 

[101nemesis]

376. Boruto: Naruto Next Generations #11 (3,280 / 151,767)

Jesus, how far has Boruto dropped?
Is it still dropping with every volume release?

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

It hurts me a little that we aren't going to get the MHA anniversary cover until potentially August, but whatever.

I hope we start getting some Jump manga serialized in Fall. Almost all the entire roster has been serialized in the February-March period.

 

[Ryuusei]

Jesus, how far has Boruto dropped?
Is it still dropping with every volume release?

Dropped is an understatement. It took a nosedive.

 

[101nemesis]

Dropped is an understatement. It took a nosedive.

Can we reverse it and assume it got a decent anime boost instead?
Seems like volumes 9, 10, 11 are following the same trends. Maybe it has finally stabilized.

 

[yadayada]

Can we reverse it and assume it got a decent anime boost instead?
Seems like volumes 9, 10, 11 are following the same trends. Maybe it has finally stabilized.

10 is a 2days first week while 11 is a 5days first week and it still sold less(9days vs 12 days), it's definitely not stable.

 

[101nemesis]

10 is a 2days first week while 11 is a 5days first week and it still sold less(9days vs 12 days), it's definitely not stable.

The difference in the first week is usually made up by 2nd or 3rd week (latest). So if you look at the 2nd week of Volumes 9, 10, 11, you can see that they are very similar in what they sold, though the number of days do vary.
But given the trend, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a drop.

 

[Stivie]

Hiato

 

[WyldViolet]

Which is a shame because rn I like Boruto more than I ever did Naruto.

 

[lazybones1717]

Act-Age Volume 1 comes out in English today. To promote it, VIZ translated the first Japanese PV (which was deleted by Shueisha for some reason):

 

[Halloween]

Bleach is revered for it's chapter titles, so I pose a question for everyone;

Which Bleach chapter title is your personal favorite? Also, which other WSJ series do you feel has memorable chapter titles?

 

[lazybones1717]

Bleach is revered for it's chapter titles, so I pose a question for everyone;

Which Bleach chapter title is your personal favorite? Also, which other WSJ series do you feel has memorable chapter titles?

I haven't read Bleach, but I always thought that Act-Age had some pretty memorable chapter titles. Succinct and punchy. Off the top of my head, some of my favorites are:

"How to Stand"
"Tragic Heroine"
"You in April"
"That Kind of Normal"
"Yonagi's Anger"
"How I'm Defined"
"In the Ocean"
"Strong Current"
"Identity"

Haikyu!! is also up there! The chapter title callbacks in the final arc have been phenomenal!

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Bleach is revered for it's chapter titles, so I pose a question for everyone;

Which Bleach chapter title is your personal favorite? Also, which other WSJ series do you feel has memorable chapter titles?

Jujutsu Kaisen. Last 20 chapters titles have been kino.

 

[Halloween]

Some of my favorite Bleach titles:

"Transcendent God Rock"

"Why Me Sad"

"Superchunky from Hell"

"In Sane We Trust"

There's probably a whole bunch I'm forgetting.

 

[susanoo13]

Bleach is revered for it's chapter titles, so I pose a question for everyone;

Which Bleach chapter title is your personal favorite? Also, which other WSJ series do you feel has memorable chapter titles?

About titles, ones of Bleach that comes to mind would be :
6/17 op. 8 One-Sided Sympathy
To Those Capturing the Moon
You Don't Hear My Name Anymore
Don't Kill My Volupture
I Hate Loneliness, But It Loves Me
Bleach My Soul - Which I thouught would be appropriate ending for the series with such a title (chapter 423)

I can't think of another series with such titles but another series in which I like the chapter titles is Gintama since I can never know what to expect by the title

 

[101nemesis]

Some of my favorite Bleach chapter names are;

Everything But the Rain - It was partially a call back to the chapter "Memories in the Rain" from Volume 3 and that volume itself.

Transcendent God Rock,

Death and Strawberry, - First and last chapter of the series

Rupture My Replica,

The Shooting Star Project, - And it's various mixes.

The Theatre Suicide,

Which is a shame because rn I like Boruto more than I ever did Naruto.

The drop in sales is also partially Shueisha's fault for milking the franchise to the point that it's over saturated.

I haven't read Bleach, but I always though that Act-Age had some pretty memorable chapter titles. Succinct and punchy. Off the top of my head, some of my favorites are:

"How to Stand"
"Tragic Heroine"
"You in April"
"That Kind of Normal"
"Yonagi's Anger"
"How I'm Defined"
"In the Ocean"
"Strong Current"
"Identity"

Haikyu!! is also up there! The chapter title callbacks in the final arc have been phenomenal!

Those Act-Age titles can fit Bleach very well, actually. Lol.

 

[Neala897]

Bleach is revered for it's chapter titles, so I pose a question for everyone;

Which Bleach chapter title is your personal favorite? Also, which other WSJ series do you feel has memorable chapter titles?

I really like Kubo poems but chapter titles always sound a bit funny to me. It always felt like Kubo was show offing. Look cool english titles! About best chapter titles overall... Gintama exists