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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file
 
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Manga+ uses Viz's translations.
According to the new rules I can't share my feelings on Viz so I'll just say they're probably too busy and/due to suffering from poor management to pickup the series.
They have a long history of not picking up series when they should yet picking up and fully translating rather terrible series like Judos or Hi-Fi Cluster.
It doesn't happen for magazine Jump titles anymore luckily so we won't have another MHA or Kimetsu situation however they clearly don't have the same potential with not seeing (and not caring they can't see) the potential of certain series compared to others.
Not all the English Manga on Mangaplus are translated by Viz though, biggest example being Summertime Rendering. Even if Viz doesn't pick up a Jump+ title, that doesn't stop Mangaplus from doing so, they have completely different management.
 

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Aren't no and don't plan to basically the same thing?
I guess no could mean on hold. I find these options better:

-Yes (actively read weekly)
-No (dropped & no plans)
-Plan to read
-On Hold (positive opinion)
-On Hold ("negative" opinion, i.e you may generally like the series but feel the current arc is slow so you want to get caught up after its done)

5 options may sound a bit excessive but it'll definitely give us better options than just yes or no. Perhaps you can place On Hold into one option if you really wanted to, making it 4 options.
 

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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/titles/200048 (has english scan but not up to date)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/titles/200035 (this is on viz but not mangaplus english
1. It kinda needs to be up to date, since we're asking people to vote on up to date releases.

2. Wait, we don't add MHA: Vigilante to the poll? I thought we did, but I could be wrong.
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Why not only include the English series given this is an English language forum (despite having an international user base we all converse in English)
That's the general idea, I thought. In Kaiju's case, while it's officially on Spanish M+, it isn't on English M+. However, it does have a scan group working on it, and it's available on mangadex.

If we're limiting this to *just* English M+, then Yuuna should never have been listed. However, since it was in WSJ and had a scan group actively working on it, we permitted it.
 

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1. It kinda needs to be up to date, since we're asking people to vote on up to date releases.
If up to date is the main criteria, then what about all those up to date Jump+ titles like Matoi slave, Dosanko or city of imprisoned love
Also, I don't think I ever see Hina Change or Sacchan in the poll, xd.
Please don't pretend there is actual rule or requirement for the poll.
 

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Is Kaiju the only Jump+ series that is translated up to date by scans, though? I'm pretty sure it isnt, but maybe i'm wrong.

However, if i'm right, it's a weird inclusion. You might say it is on Spanish mangaplus, but there are another three series who also are on Spanish mangaplus. Being on mangaplus + being scanlated is a way too specific combination...
 

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If up to date is the main criteria, then what about all those up to date Jump+ titles like Matoi slave, Dosanko or city of imprisoned love
Also, I don't think I ever see Hina Change or Sacchan in the poll, xd.
Please don't pretend there is actual rule or requirement for the poll.
I don't decide what goes on the poll anymore. Initially, I wanted it to be WSJ titles *only* but everyone complained, so we added more.

I don't know the exact reason why those series aren't listed, but I'm sure Shinuki can explain once he's on.
 

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Not all the English Manga on Mangaplus are translated by Viz though, biggest example being Summertime Rendering. Even if Viz doesn't pick up a Jump+ title, that doesn't stop Mangaplus from doing so, they have completely different management.
Okay but if viz translates a series they use their translations. If not they use freelancers like they do for the espanol chapters.
 

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Isn't it basically upto date series on manga+ and popular in this forum?

I know new WSJ manga dont technically qualify as popular but this poll was created initially to replicate WSJ Toc surveys. So adding new WSJ series into the list isn't a surprise.

Guess the confusion arises from the new popular Kaiju Jump+ manga since it's not officially translated in English yet on manga+
 

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everyone complained
I don't ever recall myself complaining about that at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
I don't mind adding stuff to the poll. All I want is a clear cute rule/requirement.

Isn't it basically upto date series on manga+ and popular in this forum?
what qualify as popular? what if I want to vote for dosanko or matoi slave?
 

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If up to date is the main criteria, then what about all those up to date Jump+ titles like Matoi slave, Dosanko or city of imprisoned love
Also, I don't think I ever see Hina Change or Sacchan in the poll, xd.
Please don't pretend there is actual rule or requirement for the poll.
Well, to be fair, none of those top three are on MangaPlus. Also, did anybody here actually read Hina Change or Dear Sa-chan? Like... I plan to read those two, but I dont think they were really popular enough, so I didnt mind them not being included in the poll.

The way I see it, the poll consists of every Weekly Shonen Jump manga (regardless of whether or not it's on MangaPlus) and popular manga on MangaPlus.
 

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Okay but if viz translates a series they use their translations. If not they use freelancers like they do for the espanol chapters.
So? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post but I thought you were giving Viz as a reason why Mangaplus didn't pick up Kaiju in English, when that doesn't have anything to do with it. Mangaplus is a different company than Viz. The only 2 Jump+ titles on Mangaplus handled by Viz are Jigokuraku and Spy x Family. Unless Viz specifically decided to pick it up, which basically never happens, it'd be a choice for someone on the Mangaplus side of things.
 

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The way I see it, the poll consists of every Weekly Shonen Jump manga (regardless of whether or not it's on MangaPlus) and popular manga on MangaPlus
what the poll consists of/will consists of needs to be plainly stated and clear. From these posts in the thread thusfar, coming from the perspective as someone who only paid attention to them maybe 4 or so weeks ago to now, it seems theres no clarity or rationale between being added at the whim of the maker.

Could really just say ~~Anything thats (not a catalog title) on the International English Language Portion of MangaPlus dot com gets added~~~

Seems simple and clear to me.
 

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I read Dear Sa-cha. Very painful to read (the guy....just ugh) at the beginning but now with the recent developments, it's very satisfying to read.
 

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Also, did anybody here actually read Hina Change or Dear Sa-chan? Like... I plan to read those two, but I dont think they were really popular enough, so I didnt mind them not being included in the poll.
Just because nobody gonna vote for Jo Jorgensen doesn't mean we can just exclude her from the election poll.
 

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what qualify as popular? what if I want to vote for dosanko or matoi slave?
So, just request for that to be added here on the forum or wherever suitable and if a sizeable number of people agree, I'm sure Shinuki can add it.

No point in adding a series if only 1 person votes for it. Same way no point in voting if you only read 1 series.
 

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No point in adding a series if only 1 person votes for it. Same way no point in voting if you only read 1 series.
but feelings change weekly, it could have a bombastic chapter one week ^_^

Also every vote counts.
 

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but feelings change weekly, it could have a bombastic chapter one week ^_^

Also every vote counts.
If only one person reads a series, it'll always be last on that poll no matter how high their vote for it is. It's pointless to add something that barely anyone reads.

The polls are for fun and the people who organize it take time from their lives to do it.
The least we can do is, not make them do unnecessary extra work.

But if anything, let's wait for Shinuki. He might agree to add everything in Mangaplus for all I know, so *shrugs*
 

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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 7/7

Jump


#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 Special Edition
#3 The Promised Neverland 19
#4 My Hero Academia 27
#6 Dr. Stone 16
#7 Black Clover 25
#9 Act-Age 12
#138 Agravity Boys 2

Jump+

#64 Black Clover Gaiden: Quartet Knights 5
#68 2.5 Dimension's Seduction 5
#78 Mato Seihei no Slave 5
#79 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 3
#144 Otokozaka 9
#266 Akuma Memu Memu-chan 10
#271 Shouwa Otome Otogibanashi 5

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 7/8

Jump


#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 Special Edition
#3 The Promised Neverland 19
#4 My Hero Academia 27
#7 Dr. Stone 16
#9 Black Clover 25
#12 Act-Age 12
#244 Agravity Boys 2

Jump+

#87 Black Clover Gaiden: Quartet Knights 5
#121 2.5 Dimension's Seduction 5
#132 Mato Seihei no Slave 5
#133 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 3
#271 Otokozaka 9
#395 Shouwa Otome Otogibanashi 5
#412 Akuma Memu Memu-chan 10

Mashle is at #370 and #415, respectively.
 

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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 7/7

Jump


#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 Special Edition
#3 The Promised Neverland 19
#4 My Hero Academia 27
#6 Dr. Stone 16
#7 Black Clover 25
#9 Act-Age 12
#138 Agravity Boys 2

Jump+

#64 Black Clover Gaiden: Quartet Knights 5
#68 2.5 Dimension's Seduction 5
#78 Mato Seihei no Slave 5
#79 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 3
#144 Otokozaka 9
#266 Akuma Memu Memu-chan 10
#271 Shouwa Otome Otogibanashi 5

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 7/8

Jump


#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 Special Edition
#3 The Promised Neverland 19
#4 My Hero Academia 27
#7 Dr. Stone 16
#9 Black Clover 25
#12 Act-Age 12
#244 Agravity Boys 2

Jump+

#87 Black Clover Gaiden: Quartet Knights 5
#121 2.5 Dimension's Seduction 5
#132 Mato Seihei no Slave 5
#133 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 3
#271 Otokozaka 9
#395 Shouwa Otome Otogibanashi 5
#412 Akuma Memu Memu-chan 10

Mashle is at #370 and #415, respectively.
Oh dear. Oh dear, Agravity Boys. It's not even holding well against half of the Jump+ stuff. On the other hand, it seems as if Mashle's time may finally be up - it'll probably bounce back, but if it doesn't, it had a very good run. Looking to be the first real hit WSJ has had since Chainsaw Man

Good stuff for Dosanko, 2.5D Seduction, and Mato Seihei, by the way. Really like those three manga (gotta catch up to the first two).
 
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