Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[KennyKuro]

How many and which mangakas do you think they will say goodbye to Furudate-sensei in this week's Jump issue?

 

[DreamcastDazia]

How many and which mangakas do you think they will say goodbye to Furudate-sensei in this week's Jump issue?

I think everyone except the newbies

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 14, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 14, 2020 ---

I don't follow HQ (though I should) but what are the chances that Furudate could just come back with a sequel to HQ? Like the world cup or something?

Would be kinda pointless to me. Cause what we got in the last arc was basically the ultimate match. He has shown us everything volleyball has to offer. A world Cup would just be a boring drag. The characters don't have that much room to grow and we saw all of their growth and efforts pay off in the last match

 

[tirakai]

Did Miura ever say goodbye to an author whose series ended? Throughout Yuuna's run, I'm sure I remember noticing that Miura often seemed to not give any farewell messages when others all did.

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Did Miura ever say goodbye to an author whose series ended? Throughout Yuuna's run, I'm sure I remember noticing that Miura often seemed to not give any farewell messages when others all did.

I recall him and Samon's Shun Numa being the only ones not to say anything when Bleach left.

 

[WyldViolet]

I noticed a few editors for WSJ series also edit Jump+ series.
Are there WYJ editors who edit Jump+ series as well? If so, is it a situation where Jump+ is almost a bridge between the two demographics and thus editors can work in both their assigned paper magazine in addition to Jump+? Or does it go farther and Shueshia editors can work across all magazines?

 

[tirakai]

Also speaking of newbies, it'll be fun seeing what things are like in 2-3 years' time since we have so many starting at once. It's always interesting to see when we get a bunch of new hits every batch or two, and then a clear gap separating it from the next generation.

In the early 2010s we had Nisekoi, Haikyuu, Saiki, Ass Class, Food Wars and World Trigger all starting with at most 20 issues between two of them, but for the rest of the decade we only ever got 3 hits in a row at most before there was half a year or more until the next hit.

currently it seems like we may have the next full-sized generation going between Yozakura, Undead, Mashle, Moriking and hopefully one or two series from the current batch.

 

[ItsSamu]

Also speaking of newbies, it'll be fun seeing what things are like in 2-3 years' time since we have so many starting at once. It's always interesting to see when we get a bunch of new hits every batch or two, and then a clear gap separating it from the next generation.

In the early 2010s we had Nisekoi, Haikyuu, Saiki, Ass Class, Food Wars and World Trigger all starting with at most 20 issues between two of them, but for the rest of the decade we only ever got 3 hits in a row at most before there was half a year or more until the next hit.

currently it seems like we may have the next full-sized generation going between Yozakura, Undead, Mashle, Moriking and hopefully one or two series from the current batch.

It's definitely a weird time in the magazine but probably good to be a newcomer since you'd be against plenty in a similar situation with more spots to grab. However out of those four I'd guess only Mashle is a definite keeper, with Moriking and Undead Unluck probably as well with the way they're going. I feel like there's going to be a lot more cuts on the way before we start to find other newbies that stick around. I wouldn't be surprised if none of the latest four (maybe with the exception of Ayakashi Triangle, to fill the ecchi/romcom quota) survive in the long run.

 

[Tamil]

Did Miura ever say goodbye to an author whose series ended? Throughout Yuuna's run, I'm sure I remember noticing that Miura often seemed to not give any farewell messages when others all did.

I would be surprised if he didn't have a goodbye comment for SnS's ending

 

[Nemesis]

I noticed a few editors for WSJ series also edit Jump+ series.
Are there WYJ editors who edit Jump+ series as well? If so, is it a situation where Jump+ is almost a bridge between the two demographics and thus editors can work in both their assigned paper magazine in addition to Jump+? Or does it go farther and Shueshia editors can work across all magazines?

I have no idea. What I know is that some editors on WSJ also work on Jump+ like the one from Chainsaw Man that works on SpyxFamily and Heart Gear currently.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 15, 2020 ---

Mashle seems to be doing really well and it's hilarious to me because even though it's not one of my favorites, I know an asshole who was certain that it was going to do bad just because he dislike the manga. Of course, he has no notion of sales and was surprised when the manga is doing well. That same person of course thought Black Clover was going to fail, all based on their taste.

It's no one from here btw. haha

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 15, 2020 ---

Updated list of editors with the higher-ups and since we learned who Yozakura's new one is. The only two unknowns now are Ayakashi and Dolphin.

Whoa Nakano launched Nura, Beelzebub and Toriko. But the most impressive is the editor of Chainsaw Man. So many great and good manga he was involved in lauching.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Shoseki Weekly Ranking - 7/6~7/12

Jump

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba 21 Special Edition
#4 My Hero Academia 27
#5 The Promised Neverland 19
#6 Dr. Stone 16
#8 Black Clover 25
#27 Act-Age 12
#305 Agravity Boys 2

Jump+

#95 Black Clover Gaiden: Quartet Knights 5
#104 2.5 Dimension's Seduction
#117 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 3
#146 Mato Seihei no Slave 5
#312 Otokozaka 9
#481 Shouwa Otome Otogibanashi 5

30位49000/50位19450/100位8400/200位4900/300位3650/400位2800/500位2300

95. Black Clover: Quartet Knights #5 (8,952 / 19,528)

Also:

346. Black Clover #24 (3,259 / 226,081) - Missing 1 week out of the top 500
466. Boruto #11 (2,470 / 154,237)

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Also speaking of newbies, it'll be fun seeing what things are like in 2-3 years' time since we have so many starting at once. It's always interesting to see when we get a bunch of new hits every batch or two, and then a clear gap separating it from the next generation.

In the early 2010s we had Nisekoi, Haikyuu, Saiki, Ass Class, Food Wars and World Trigger all starting with at most 20 issues between two of them, but for the rest of the decade we only ever got 3 hits in a row at most before there was half a year or more until the next hit.

currently it seems like we may have the next full-sized generation going between Yozakura, Undead, Mashle, Moriking and hopefully one or two series from the current batch.

Why does everyone here say Ass Class its so fucking weeeeeird

 

[WyldViolet]

Why does everyone here say Ass Class its so fucking weeeeeird

Because it's one of Jump's biggest successes period. It was literally a smash hit out of the gate.

 

[SharkBait]

Why does everyone here say Ass Class its so fucking weeeeeird

What else would you say? Its the easiest short hand, just like OreImo, HaremKing, Oregairu

 

[Serinox]

Because it's one of Jump's biggest successes period. It was literally a smash hit out of the gate.

I think his point was that he considers the abbreviation "AssClass" to be weird, not that people are bringing up the manga.

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Because it's one of Jump's biggest successes period. It was literally a smash hit out of the gate.

Lmao thats not what I meant. I mean calling Assassination Classroom Ass class is weird. I have only seen being called ass class on this website. When I first saw that I scratched my head in confusion thinking everyone was talking about some revolutionary ecchi manga that I somehow missed

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jul 15, 2020 ---

What else would you say? Its the easiest short hand, just like OreImo, HaremKing, Oregairu

Yeah I guess but Assassination classroom ain't that long to say. AC is how I shorten it. Anyway I know this isn't important or relevant but I just felt like brining it up cause its kinda funny to me. Sorry :P

 

[Halloween]

Lmao thats not what I meant. I mean calling Assassination Classroom Ass class is weird. I have only seen being called ass class on this website. When I first saw that I scratched my head in confusion thinking everyone was talking about some revolutionary ecchi manga that I somehow missed

It's definitely not just here. Typing ass instead of assassination is just the most natural abbreviation.

Anyway, this is getting off-topic anyway, so let's move on, please.

 

[SharkBait]

i guess you could say Ansatsu (since thats the website/twitter) just like people just say Shingeki...but then people will judge you

 

[tirakai]

Last year we had people using BC to refer to Beast Children and Black Clover. Using only the initials when there's only two of them gets confusing (AC is often used to mean air conditioner, or assassin's creed).

Also speaking of initials, I noticed that we have 7 different current manga whose English title starts with M (Magu-chan, Mashle, Me & Roboco, Mission: Yozakura Family, Mitama Secureity, Moriking, My Hero Academia).

You think Jujutsu Kaisen's going to get an English title when the anime gets dubbed? Or will it be one of those series that just keeps the Japanese one?

 

[SharkBait]

Last year we had people using BC to refer to Beast Children and Black Clover. Using only the initials when there's only two of them gets confusing (AC is often used to mean air conditioner, or assassin's creed).

Also speaking of initials, I noticed that we have 7 different current manga whose English title starts with M (Magu-chan, Mashle, Me & Roboco, Mission: Yozakura Family, Mitama Secureity, Moriking, My Hero Academia).

You think Jujutsu Kaisen's going to get an English title when the anime gets dubbed? Or will it be one of those series that just keeps the Japanese one?

I was sure all the english ones are used by the JPN originally in the JPN magazine. Mashle is Mashle, BLack Clover is BLack Clover on covers and in the anime...only people that say Boku no Hero Academia, are people that blatantly ignore the english thats apart of the JPN logo and the audio, Mission Yozakura Familiy is written behind the stylized logo.

I dont see one for jujutsu and since its already releasing out of jpn and announced for World Wide Streaming... seems unlikely it'd just get some random translated name.

 

[OtterBrigade]

Last year we had people using BC to refer to Beast Children and Black Clover. Using only the initials when there's only two of them gets confusing (AC is often used to mean air conditioner, or assassin's creed).

Also speaking of initials, I noticed that we have 7 different current manga whose English title starts with M (Magu-chan, Mashle, Me & Roboco, Mission: Yozakura Family, Mitama Secureity, Moriking, My Hero Academia).

You think Jujutsu Kaisen's going to get an English title when the anime gets dubbed? Or will it be one of those series that just keeps the Japanese one?

I think it will keep Jujutsu Kaisen. I know it happens somewhat often but I think adding "Bokuben" to the end of "We Never Learn"'s anime is the only time the official manga and anime English titles have been different for Jump series. Even stuff like Demon Slayer, Food Wars and Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings which don't actually translate the title or Nisekoi with only Japanese in the title