Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Helpers2444]

where would you place gears? imo he’s low spriggan

Gears was stronger than Doom do you agree?

 

[ald7mi_99]

He was besting Jellal and gave him a tough fight. He's like GS level.

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I don't know if he retains those he copies. If that's the case then yea he's above, if not, he'd be there with August and Irene.

i think it's not about that he retains those copies it's about the he had enough power to copy zeref and his god curse.

and i meant aldoron that is above spriggans gears and metro are low-md spriggan tier doom just have hax he is a fodder.

 

[Zelefomavis]

Brandish is chilling when confronted with Aldoron. Remember when Enchanted Neinhart's MP was enough to make her sweat ?

Clearly, Irene > Aldoron
And that's on periodt

 

[GL_Nova]

Brandish is chilling when confronted with Aldoron. Remember when Enchanted Neinhart's MP was enough to make her sweat ?

Clearly, Irene > Aldoron
And that's on periodt

This is the funniest post ever

 

[Seven777]

i am not arguing with you here man

but hades example isnt fair. technically i think laxus would have given hades a solid mid diff fight. beside laxus couldnt dodge 25 formula, markarov could block it. and markrov couldnt follow kagura and erza strike. so no huge gap even here

yep, pre skip jura, someone who was around pre skip erza

two shotting gajeel above jupiter cannon tier slash, i dont know man

bluenote didnt use magic against gildarts. i wonder who was bandaged more at the end erza or gildarts? of course we shouldnt even be having this conversation since gildarts is so far above erza. but because of plot one can make an argument (and good guys dont die, with or without magic)

no, thats plot. natsu doesnt have more durability. this is plot. this argument will eventually lead to tenrou erza stamina being above gildarts, and lucy durability being above many of natsu opponents

yes, laxus was portrayed as a monster. wasnt erza also portrayed as a monster. look mishma had clear chance to show laxus superiority above erza in ff arc. he didnt. instead we got s class test where all s class mages were to handle two non s class mages, and were told to hold back. something laxus did in ff arc. marakrov seems to think even mira would have been able handle natsu and non s class candidate.

he wasnt portrayed as a monster in tenrou arc. he lasted five seconds against hades. laxus power wasnt even shown here. only awesome thing he did was tank 25 formula, which we and erza later found out he didnt.
Then in the next arc he was likened to Gildarts by Gray as the two members of the guild so powerful that they didn't need to train to keep up with current powerlevels.
this is interesting, because erza was the mage who was actually shown to compete in this tournament without training or power up. gray would later say erza already had SO.
and minerva didnt even remember laxus when telling her team mates not to fight jura and kagura


how do you know erza wouldnt have beaten temspster like that. this is a good example of less panel but must show laxus as powerful.

He then went on to be hyped to be able to oneshot Ajeel, and then killed Wahl while dying of magic cancer, which as you said, made him look ridiculously OP
i think ajeel hype was so that we could see laxus was above likes of gajeel.
dying of cancer and beating wahl is bs. it is equivalent of erza beating koyoka without senses.


laxus portrayal can be said to be slightly above erza. not far above. but certainly ignoring erza portrayal above natsu for laxus portrayal is literally mental gymnastic.

erza vs irene and laxus vs wahl showed some people laxus>=erza
but erza vs kagura and minirva didnt show erza anywhere near laxus
(rufus was told not to fight kagura, and kagura lost to tenrou level erza. SO erza vs rufus would have been a worst stomp than even red lightening laxus vs wahl)

people see what they want to see at the end. that is why alverzec erza wasnt said to be tiers above laxus. yet gmg laxus was said to be tier above erza

Dodging is harder than blocking, at least when it comes to AoE, so I don't see what's unfair about it. Besides, like I said before, sometimes you get hit, sometimes you don't, you don't have to evade every single attack to be fast. Erza gets hit all the time, probably more than any character other than Natsu, she's still among the faster characters in the series. So no, Laxus getting hit doesn't detract from the fact that he's fast enough to blitz Hades, which puts his speed significantly above Makarovs.

Sure, preskip Jura durability sounds reasonable, I'd even say hers is higher.

It's not actually Jupiter cannon tier, Jupiter oneshot Erza through Adamantine, Kagura's slash only broke it.

Sure, but much less of a monster than Laxus, to the point where she frequently compares herself to Natsu and where people would actually bet money on Natsu winning a fight between them. She was consistently portrayed as the best of team Natsu, but not much more than that.

Sure he was, his whole entrance portrayed Laxus as the savior they needed. He reminded Hades of Prime Makarov. He briefly overwhelmed Hades in a hype moment and it was his incredible magic power that boosted Natsu to insane levels. With Natsu saying that Laxus could have actually done better with it. Laxus whole role in the Hades fight was him being portrayed as a beast.

Except at the end of the day Erza did need her SO. Minerva didn't remember Erza either, a fatal oversight on her part.

I dont, but it doesn't matter. Like you said, it was a good way to show Laxus powerful with low panel time.

What has Ajeel got to do with Gajeel other than their names rhyming lol? Gajeel hadnt even done anything at that point.
The fact that Mashima had to double nerf Laxus to make him a match for a spriggan just shows the portrayal i was talking about. As for it being BS, I suppose that depends on how debilitating you think magic cancer is. Would Ali lose to someone a couple tiers under his weight class if he was dying of cancer? I don't know.

Sure, because back then Jura was hyped as strong enough to take Erza and Mira at the same time. Laxus beating him is almost a direct statement that he is stronger than Erza. Even if you dismiss the statement as hyperbole, you can still stack that with his performance against Hades and his likening to Gildarts. Stock in Laxus' strength was through the roof at that point, especially with Mashima saying he's too OP to be convincingly be put into fights around the same time all this happened.
As for Eileen, plenty of people thought Erza was above Laxus after that, but for those who didn't it's because: 1. People still took the Ajeel fight into consideration. 2. Erza didn't solo and she didn't win. 3. Mashima being forced to nerf Laxus twice over is still ridiculous, as you yourself have stated.

 

[GL_Nova]

Has anybody gotten the new FT game yet? Apparently it quite clearly states in the character Bio’s that Gildarts & Laxus are the only contenders for strongest male in the guild. They’re posting pics over on FB, but I still haven’t figured out posting pics from my phone.

 

[Ramen]

Has anybody gotten the new FT game yet? Apparently it quite clearly states in the character Bio’s that Gildarts & Laxus are the only contenders for strongest male in the guild. They’re posting pics over on FB, but I still haven’t figured out posting pics from my phone.

@kianp67 @Jko have it

 

[kian]

Has anybody gotten the new FT game yet? Apparently it quite clearly states in the character Bio’s that Gildarts & Laxus are the only contenders for strongest male in the guild. They’re posting pics over on FB, but I still haven’t figured out posting pics from my phone.

‘A member of Fairy Tail, Thunder Dragon Slayer, and the grandson of Master Makarov. He’s one of the candidates for Fairy Tail’s strongest male member. Once ousted from the guild, he was allowed back after fighting alongside Natsu on tenrou island.’

 

[GL_Nova]

‘A member of Fairy Tail, Thunder Dragon Slayer, and the grandson of Master Makarov. He’s one of the candidates for Fairy Tail’s strongest male member. Once ousted from the guild, he was allowed back after fighting alongside Natsu on tenrou island.’

Thanks bro. Does it name other candidates, if so who? An does it name a strongest female or have candidates? Any other cool lore tidbits?

 

[GL_Nova]

People have posted pictures of Laxus using Dragon Force over on Facebook.

 

[Biri Biri]

‘A member of Fairy Tail, Thunder Dragon Slayer, and the grandson of Master Makarov. He’s one of the candidates for Fairy Tail’s strongest male member. Once ousted from the guild, he was allowed back after fighting alongside Natsu on tenrou island.’

Did it label Laxus as the Thunder DS, rather than lightning?

The Japanese term used for Laxus' magic has always been thunder, not lightning. But for some reason, it usually gets mistranslated into lightning in English. Glad if they fixed that in the game.

 

[kian]

Did it label Laxus as the Thunder DS, rather than lightning?

The Japanese term used for Laxus' magic has always been thunder, not lightning. But for some reason, it usually gets mistranslated into lightning in English. Glad if they fixed that in the game.

Yeah they went with thunder in his bio though his moves list still stay lightning

 

[sharkai]

no it didn't erza is a tank she took all the hits before and after and actully both are tank and they fainted becuase they spend all of their magical power not because of their attacks so i think it didn't play any role

Then its back to opnions. Nothing more

the fight ened in a double ko but laxus still superior cuase he fought kyria who gave erza a tough battle and beated her.

this debate start to get boring so let's just change it, so guys where do you rates aldoron the seed and his other seeds at from what has been shown?

I dont know. All i know doom is the strongest seed. Above aldron dragron form and above august as well

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Wait so y’all thought laxus was trying to kill erza?

again @sharkai u keep contradicting urself u beleive that Laxus>erza now ur saying opposite u keep flip flopping

i already told you. There are couple of variables. For sake of debate i have no problem with laxus > erza. But its not 100% even now.

 

[LaGOAT]

Then its back to opnions. Nothing more



I dont know. All i know doom is the strongest seed. Above aldron dragron form and above august as well

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i already told you. There are couple of variables. For sake of debate i have no problem with laxus > erza. But its not 100% even now.

I don’t know what u mean 100% Even But by ur logic there is always A variable in every fight in anime history

 

[sharkai]

Dodging is harder than blocking, at least when it comes to AoE, so I don't see what's unfair about it. Besides, like I said before, sometimes you get hit, sometimes you don't, you don't have to evade every single attack to be fast. Erza gets hit all the time, probably more than any character other than Natsu, she's still among the faster characters in the series. So no, Laxus getting hit doesn't detract from the fact that he's fast enough to blitz Hades, which puts his speed significantly above Makarovs.

Sure, preskip Jura durability sounds reasonable, I'd even say hers is higher.

It's not actually Jupiter cannon tier, Jupiter oneshot Erza through Adamantine, Kagura's slash only broke it.

Sure, but much less of a monster than Laxus, to the point where she frequently compares herself to Natsu and where people would actually bet money on Natsu winning a fight between them. She was consistently portrayed as the best of team Natsu, but not much more than that.

Sure he was, his whole entrance portrayed Laxus as the savior they needed. He reminded Hades of Prime Makarov. He briefly overwhelmed Hades in a hype moment and it was his incredible magic power that boosted Natsu to insane levels. With Natsu saying that Laxus could have actually done better with it. Laxus whole role in the Hades fight was him being portrayed as a beast.

Except at the end of the day Erza did need her SO. Minerva didn't remember Erza either, a fatal oversight on her part.

I dont, but it doesn't matter. Like you said, it was a good way to show Laxus powerful with low panel time.

What has Ajeel got to do with Gajeel other than their names rhyming lol? Gajeel hadnt even done anything at that point.
The fact that Mashima had to double nerf Laxus to make him a match for a spriggan just shows the portrayal i was talking about. As for it being BS, I suppose that depends on how debilitating you think magic cancer is. Would Ali lose to someone a couple tiers under his weight class if he was dying of cancer? I don't know.

Sure, because back then Jura was hyped as strong enough to take Erza and Mira at the same time. Laxus beating him is almost a direct statement that he is stronger than Erza. Even if you dismiss the statement as hyperbole, you can still stack that with his performance against Hades and his likening to Gildarts. Stock in Laxus' strength was through the roof at that point, especially with Mashima saying he's too OP to be convincingly be put into fights around the same time all this happened.
As for Eileen, plenty of people thought Erza was above Laxus after that, but for those who didn't it's because: 1. People still took the Ajeel fight into consideration. 2. Erza didn't solo and she didn't win. 3. Mashima being forced to nerf Laxus twice over is still ridiculous, as you yourself have stated.

what? Dodging is harder seriously. I always thought dodging was easier. All you need to do is jumb. Not something complex like golden pillar thing. Was 25 formula a huge aoe spell?
Thats your opinion mate. Hades cant even hit marakrov unless marakrov is holding his heart or is in shock.
Unfair was the part where erza is running at extreme low fuel.

Tenrou erza is above phantom erza. Unless you think erigor can give zancrow a fight. Canonically they were compared.

Yes, erza used to compare herself to natsu and thought natsu can handle laxus just fine.

Nope. Erza was a monster, natsu used to shit himself when he came across her. Gray said natsu would die if he faces erza. Erza used to one shot natsu just like gildarts and laxus. So this small monster is also your opinion.

Yes, savioir so what. He reminded hades of young marakrov because of his face, no?
He overwhelmed hades when hades wasnt fighting. Its only speed feat anyway. Not a power feat
Insane level? I dont think so. Besides its natsu df thing. Not laxus thing.
So no beast thing here.

Yes, erza needed SO at the end. And laxus needed training from the start.
Yes, canonically in gmg it was
Jura > Minerva > kagura > Erza = Laxus
Or atleast that what Minerva thought

Gajeel killed his springgan. Laxus killed his springgan. Both needed bs to win. That ajeel nuke, in my opinion, was to show Laxus was in an upper class compared to likes of gajeel.

Ali wouldn't be able to move under cancer. Magical cancer laxus should have been below gmg laxus. Its no different than tartarus erza vs kuyoka. If you think tartarus erza is above mard then same can be said for laxus in Alvarez, otherwise its standard fairy tail bs way of win.

Nope. In that same situation kagura was said to be above erza or around her. Same for Minerva. Erza beating both put her directly as high as jura tier
He is compared to gildarts one or twice. Hardly that noteworthy.
Yeah, stupid comment, laxus is so OP that mishma cant make his opponent, yet can produce bluenote, august and god dragons out his ass. This is more in line with showing laxus being erza tier but allowed very little amount of panels

The fact of matter is
Laxus and erza were never compared in the manga. You people dont have enough information, but are ready make judgment on their relative power levels
now they fight, there is no editorial notes of "how erza can beat something like laxus"
Erza dehype is again shown by fans in some recent threads that are being brought back. Love those gray vs erza and irene vs sting threads. i am sure before laxus and irene, erza was considered alot weaker by these people
Its pretty clear that people like you dehype erza or her opponents one or another.

Laxus vs jura hype didnt bring down jura hype
But enhanced erza not landing even one hit on irene brought her hype crashing down.

Huge amount of fans here believe laxus is far above erza (they have no solid foundation for this) and any future feat and opponents is scaled to that.
Like it or not, right now, there is no mention of erza external boost power. No shocking statement that enchantment brought erza to this level. Alot of mention about laxus red lightning powers. Canonically laxus improved more than erza did from Alvarez.
Meanwhile so many fans are talking about how erza has closed the gap.

You are part of the gang. Who believed wsd sting can take on dragon irene but wont even let gmg kagura give a mid diff fight to jura, or dues sema is a missle thus not awesome feat yet wahl etherion cannon hits far above wahl weight or ds weakness is a huge thing (even though ds magic is standard dragon magic nothing more) thus sting can beat irene but wahl lighteness weakness wasnt even a factor in case red lightning thing. Or how erza dragon seal is a huge boost compared laxus red lightning mode.
If you keep on giving benefits to laxus like this, sure he is gonna be a bigger monster.

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I don’t know what u mean 100% Even But by ur logic there is always A variable in every fight in anime history

not everytime.
Good guys fighting against love one is a huge factor for many loses in animes

 

[LaGOAT]

what? Dodging is harder seriously. I always thought dodging was easier. All you need to do is jumb. Not something complex like golden pillar thing. Was 25 formula a huge aoe spell?
Thats your opinion mate. Hades cant even hit marakrov unless marakrov is holding his heart or is in shock.
Unfair was the part where erza is running at extreme low fuel.

Tenrou erza is above phantom erza. Unless you think erigor can give zancrow a fight. Canonically they were compared.

Yes, erza used to compare herself to natsu and thought natsu can handle laxus just fine.

Nope. Erza was a monster, natsu used to shit himself when he came across her. Gray said natsu would die if he faces erza. Erza used to one shot natsu just like gildarts and laxus. So this small monster is also your opinion.

Yes, savioir so what. He reminded hades of young marakrov because of his face, no?
He overwhelmed hades when hades wasnt fighting. Its only speed feat anyway. Not a power feat
Insane level? I dont think so. Besides its natsu df thing. Not laxus thing.
So no beast thing here.

Yes, erza needed SO at the end. And laxus needed training from the start.
Yes, canonically in gmg it was
Jura > Minerva > kagura > Erza = Laxus
Or atleast that what Minerva thought

Gajeel killed his springgan. Laxus killed his springgan. Both needed bs to win. That ajeel nuke, in my opinion, was to show Laxus was in an upper class compared to likes of gajeel.

Ali wouldn't be able to move under cancer. Magical cancer laxus should have been below gmg laxus. Its no different than tartarus erza vs kuyoka. If you think tartarus erza is above mard then same can be said for laxus in Alvarez, otherwise its standard fairy tail bs way of win.

Nope. In that same situation kagura was said to be above erza or around her. Same for Minerva. Erza beating both put her directly as high as jura tier
He is compared to gildarts one or twice. Hardly that noteworthy.
Yeah, stupid comment, laxus is so OP that mishma cant make his opponent, yet can produce bluenote, august and god dragons out his ass. This is more in line with showing laxus being erza tier but allowed very little amount of panels

The fact of matter is
Laxus and erza were never compared in the manga. You people dont have enough information, but are ready make judgment on their relative power levels
now they fight, there is no editorial notes of "how erza can beat something like laxus"
Erza dehype is again shown by fans in some recent threads that are being brought back. Love those gray vs erza and irene vs sting threads. i am sure before laxus and irene, erza was considered alot weaker by these people
Its pretty clear that people like you dehype erza or her opponents one or another.

Laxus vs jura hype didnt bring down jura hype
But enhanced erza not landing even one hit on irene brought her hype crashing down.

Huge amount of fans here believe laxus is far above erza (they have no solid foundation for this) and any future feat and opponents is scaled to that.
Like it or not, right now, there is no mention of erza external boost power. No shocking statement that enchantment brought erza to this level. Alot of mention about laxus red lightning powers. Canonically laxus improved more than erza did from Alvarez.
Meanwhile so many fans are talking about how erza has closed the gap.

You are part of the gang. Who believed wsd sting can take on dragon irene but wont even let gmg kagura give a mid diff fight to jura, or dues sema is a missle thus not awesome feat yet wahl etherion cannon hits far above wahl weight or ds weakness is a huge thing (even though ds magic is standard dragon magic nothing more) thus sting can beat irene but wahl lighteness weakness wasnt even a factor in case red lightning thing. Or how erza dragon seal is a huge boost compared laxus red lightning mode.
If you keep on giving benefits to laxus like this, sure he is gonna be a bigger monster.

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not everytime.
Good guys fighting against love one is a huge factor for many loses in animes

Exactly in which both weren’t trying to kill each other cuz they from the same guild I don’t see ur point here laxus wasn’t trying to kill her neither was erza. Erza went all out at the end and till lost

 

[sharkai]

Exactly in which both weren’t trying to kill each other cuz they from the same guild I don’t see ur point here laxus wasn’t trying to kill her neither was erza. Erza went all out at the end and till lost

that maybe a good point. but it doesnt matter what laxus thinks. white witch was controlling laxus. so you are basically saying white witch didnt want to hurt erza because she is in fairy tail.
this maybe standard good guy being controlled by bad guy thing, kinda like wendy belserion vs erza.

also after laxus statement, laxus couldnt dominant anymore. the last part of the fight showed equal hit with equal power

 

[LaGOAT]

that maybe a good point. but it doesnt matter what laxus thinks. white witch was controlling laxus. so you are basically saying white witch didnt want to hurt erza because she is in fairy tail.
this maybe standard good guy being controlled by bad guy thing, kinda like wendy belserion vs erza.

also after laxus statement, laxus couldnt dominant anymore. the last part of the fight showed equal hit with equal power

Yes laxus was still himself except the only difference was he had to destroy the orb (which seems to be the only command by the white witch) 2. Laxus did say to erza not to get in his way meaning laxus didn’t want to hurt erza In The first place he only did because erza was not gonna let him destroy the orb so again laxus and erza wasn’t trying to kill each other laxus didn’t kill kyria either.

ok and? Erza was down first and admitted defeat acknowledging that Laxus is stronger therefore laxus>erza so this variable u keep bringing up isn’t Applicable in this situation

 

[sharkai]

Yes laxus was still himself except the only difference was he had to destroy the orb (which seems to be the only command by the white witch) 2. Laxus did say to erza not to get in his way meaning laxus didn’t want to hurt erza In The first place he only did because erza was not gonna let him destroy the orb so again laxus and erza wasn’t trying to kill each other laxus didn’t kill kyria either.

ok and? Erza was down first and admitted defeat acknowledging that Laxus is stronger therefore laxus>erza so this variable u keep bringing up isn’t Applicable in this situation

well for that AND. erza stopped hoilding back (and maye laxus too) and they were nearly the same. laxus wasnt dominating anymore. so either laxus wasnt holding back or erza was really pulling her punches alot more than laxus.


for erza saving the orb wasn't such a high priority say like saving wendy or something along those lines
for laxus, the white doctrine was the most important thing in his brainwashed world

but maybe you are right.
yes, laxus could be > erza. but i wouldnt bet my money on it.

 

[LaGOAT]

well for that AND. erza stopped hoilding back (and maye laxus too) and they were nearly the same. laxus wasnt dominating anymore. so either laxus wasnt holding back or erza was really pulling her punches alot more than laxus.


for erza saving the orb wasn't such a high priority say like saving wendy or something along those lines
for laxus, the white doctrine was the most important thing in his brainwashed world

but maybe you are right.
yes, laxus could be > erza. but i wouldnt bet my money on it.

And what ur not understanding is it wouldn’t made a difference cause the result will be the same.

Except it was that was the main reason they fought in the first place bro I don’t know what ur getting at here. majority of this arc was for team natsu to stop the white witch from breaking the orbs. Laxus was suppose to break the orb which was the command of the white witch he was till himself.

Ok so u r flip flopping so basically u saying that Laxus=erza