Ok jokes aside, I don't even know why Mashima made GS, lol. He gives him 8 DS magic, doesn't show all of them and then there's the thing of him being Ishgar's top wizard who defected to Alvarez, which barely had any impact on the war, lmao. A hype tool for Acno is stupid because we already knew Acno was a monster. Honestly, what he should've done was have him go against a group of dragon slayers and push Acno to a later arc. 8 DS magic and top WS, it would've made sense as a precursor anyway.
Ok jokes aside, I don't even know why Mashima made GS, lol. He gives him 8 DS magic, doesn't show all of them and then there's the thing of him being Ishgar's top wizard who defected to Alvarez, which barely had any impact on the war, lmao. A hype tool for Acno is stupid because we already knew Acno was a monster. Honestly, what he should've done was have him go against a group of dragon slayers and push Acno to a later arc. 8 DS magic and top WS, it would've made sense as a precursor anyway.
He said that Serena would have been a hell of a mage if he was still alive, but as a historia is small fry.
Doesn't really tell us if Serena was on Gildart's level tbh, though he would be on a level Gildarts considers respectable. The thing is, Gildarts might consider people far weaker than him "a hell of a mage" too. We simply don't know.
He said that Serena would have been a hell of a mage if he was still alive, but as a historia is small fry.
Doesn't really tell us if Serena was on Gildart's level tbh, though he would be on a level Gildarts considers respectable. The thing is, Gildarts might consider people far weaker than him "a hell of a mage" too. We simply don't know.
But even as a small fry, he managed to tussle with him in physical combat (whose clash even blew back Natsu/Gray), and give him a few injuries. So, doesn't this imply he would've been on Gildarts tier, if he was at full power?
But even as a small fry, he managed to tussle with him in physical combat, and give him a few injuries. So, doesn't this imply he would've been on Gildarts tier, if he was at full power?
He gave him one small bloody lip. How does that equal being his tier at full strength? Even Tenrou Natsu could "tussle" with Gildarts and push him back a couple steps.
Also, Gildarts wasn't even taking him seriously and GS couldn't do anything to him as shown:
Yeah, nah. Imo Jellal is above Age Seal, Neinhart crapping his pants has me mostly convinced(Erza is too, dw). Jacob couldn't beat human Mira, he ain't beating shit, taking down Makarov and trash don't impress me, and I don't even think he could do that twice. August on the other hand would beat Crime Sorciere as many times as it takes. That's what separates August and Dimaria from Jacob or Wahl, their hax is consistently OP. August is at the top of the food chain because of his hax, and so is Dimaria(within her peers).
Definitely
Meh, EIleen was raving mad against Erza at the end before she dragonized and she couldn't do shit while Erza talked about friendship lol, i call that trolling. Plus Deus Sema was the troll of the century.
Gildarts is still above her, so even if Erza's PoF rose her to Gildarts level, which I highly doubt, then that would just mean August and Eileen fought similar level opponents, which in the end just means they're both trash.
If we go by your definition of trash, every fairy tail verse character would be trash other than two or three maybe.
Hax consistency is mishma dependent. Dimeria and jacob hax might not work on jellal. But same can be said for august hax might not work on irene. Its all plot drivel at the end. Good guys some how overcome them, like laxus weak heart or because of nakama erza doesnt need her senses to beat koyoka
For me, haxy characters are generally weaker. And if the hax is somehow obtained by good guys it becomes irrelevant hm hm macro.
Aconologia went down tiers in my eyes when i found out he was tanking all those dragon moves because he is immune to them. It had nothing to do with his strength.
August dimeria Aconologia just have cheat magic. If dimeria becomes as strong or slightly less stronger than aconologia with ability to hurt dragons, she would low diff aconologia. Cheat magic
Irene was pissed and flaying around. Many villians do that at the end. That shouldnt be called a troll. Agree with sema thing though
Erza pof rose well above gildarts level. Gildarts has no feats near eos erza, like over powering irene august top tier move, or blowing rot aconologia out of the sky. And even if pof erza was as strong as gildarts, they didnt fight similar level opponents. Gildarts wasnt using magic remember.
I just want to say august didng live upto his hype, if you dont give too much importance to hax, his hax carried him
i dont understand your king of magic point. his magic is like rufus.
jellal and hades seems more knowledgeable about magic than him. no?
he didnt tank it, he suffered enough to think he needed a suicide spell to win. it did a number on him.
we dont know his spell would vaporize the country. it was only effecting magnolia, nothing more.
and gildarts thing. i dont know. i think that being the last arc laxus would have given gildarts a high diff fight then, but this gildarts will be using his magic.
in august case, gildarts was basically fighting without magic. and still hung out with august. i dont find that impressive.
are you sure. august beat them only because he was negating and copying their magic. this is similiar to dimeria time stoping and beating them or jacob transporting them. its like a dragon beating gildarts, jellal, GOI, midnight, racer, angel, ogra, kagura, just because their magic wasnt working on that dragon
I don't remember Rufus' magic very well, it was pretty haxxy IIRC but August's was like a massive upgrade to it
He tanked it very well. He wasn't visibly injured significantly, it only gave him minor injuries.
This is what I meant, when I said he was written in a retarded way. Gildarts used up his ONLY source of damage to August, now all that's left is for August to no diff him. Yet he went for a suicide spell for no reason at all.
August didn't use too much of his abilities against Gildarts either, he also mostly engaged in physical combat
August was overwhelming Gildarts in physical combat. This is testament to August's stats as well. This alone would put August above all members of CS in all stats, except potentially speed of Jellol. I'm fairly certain that he would've solo'd them even if he didn't use his copy hax. But like I said, it would've been likely mid diff instead of a no diff
If we go by your definition of trash, every fairy tail verse character would be trash other than two or three maybe.
Hax consistency is mishma dependent. Dimeria and jacob hax might not work on jellal. But same can be said for august hax might not work on irene. Its all plot drivel at the end. Good guys some how overcome them, like laxus weak heart or because of nakama erza doesnt need her senses to beat koyoka
For me, haxy characters are generally weaker. And if the hax is somehow obtained by good guys it becomes irrelevant hm hm macro.
Aconologia went down tiers in my eyes when i found out he was tanking all those dragon moves because he is immune to them. It had nothing to do with his strength.
August dimeria Aconologia just have cheat magic. If dimeria becomes as strong or slightly less stronger than aconologia with ability to hurt dragons, she would low diff aconologia. Cheat magic
Irene was pissed and flaying around. Many villians do that at the end. That shouldnt be called a troll. Agree with sema thing though
Erza pof rose well above gildarts level. Gildarts has no feats near eos erza, like over powering irene august top tier move, or blowing rot aconologia out of the sky. And even if pof erza was as strong as gildarts, they didnt fight similar level opponents. Gildarts wasnt using magic remember.
I just want to say august didng live upto his hype, if you dont give too much importance to hax, his hax carried him
Trash compared to their hype that is, FH Zeref and Acno are trash too.
It is, and the reason DImaria and August are viewed as so OP is because he has kept their hax consistently OP.
Sure, FT can always overcome hax when the need demands, but they didn't against August, that's why he's still viewed top dog and why Kyria is mostly viewed as trash.
Yeah, August, Dimaria and Acnologia all have cheat magic, and it's because of this that they're almost universally viewed as OP af.
Sure, and they always look pathetic when they do.
Gildarts doesn't need feats on par with PoF Erza, he's already her known superior. Him being the one to battle August also rises his standing above the rest, just like August fighting Gildarts rises him in a similar fashion, the strongest vs the strongest. That aside, cubing August is better than anything Erza has done.
Besides, even if PoF Erza did rise to around Gildarts level, it only lasted for one attack, so that still wouldn't put Eileen's opponent above or even equal to Augusts opponent. At best Eileen momentarily faced a Gildarts tier opponent as Erza used her PoF, and August momentarily fought a Gildarts+ opponent when Gildarts used his PoF. Outside of that August was fighting a Gildarts tier opponent and Eileen was fighting a sub Gildarts tier opponent
He lived up to it about as well as Eileen, arguably better. There is a reason why everyone was massively disappointed with Eileen's battle, and it was pretty much entirely her performance. Her backstory and motives were actually rather decent.
This thread and Domus Flau were the shit back in the day. God, the memories. It was dead fun creating all these power rankings, discussing the authority behind hax magic and having those endless (often tiresome) conversations about Natsu and his overruling power to destroy everyone and everything hurr durr. The fun thing is that those people were right about Natsu because in the end it was more than obvious that Mashima was pulling out all the stops to hype him up to ridiculous ends to make the overall story complete. Spriggans were just hype tools and fodder to the character developments of the main cast. It's sad.
But yeah, this thread: blood, sweat and tears. Sometimes the discussions in here got so heated up... Maybe I will take a look back later this week for some laughs.
Trash compared to their hype that is, FH Zeref and Acno are trash too.
It is, and the reason DImaria and August are viewed as so OP is because he has kept their hax consistently OP.
Sure, FT can always overcome hax when the need demands, but they didn't against August, that's why he's still viewed top dog and why Kyria is mostly viewed as trash.
Yeah, August, Dimaria and Acnologia all have cheat magic, and it's because of this that they're almost universally viewed as OP af.
Sure, and they always look pathetic when they do.
Gildarts doesn't need feats on par with PoF Erza, he's already her known superior. Him being the one to battle August also rises his standing above the rest, just like August fighting Gildarts rises him in a similar fashion, the strongest vs the strongest. That aside, cubing August is better than anything Erza has done.
Besides, even if PoF Erza did rise to around Gildarts level, it only lasted for one attack, so that still wouldn't put Eileen's opponent above or even equal to Augusts opponent. At best Eileen momentarily faced a Gildarts tier opponent as Erza used her PoF, and August momentarily fought a Gildarts+ opponent when Gildarts used his PoF. Outside of that August was fighting a Gildarts tier opponent and Eileen was fighting a sub Gildarts tier opponent
He lived up to it about as well as Eileen, arguably better. There is a reason why everyone was massively disappointed with Eileen's battle, and it was pretty much entirely her performance. Her backstory and motives were actually rather decent.
i think its the way you are looking at it. i am removing the hax and looking at it in standard stats form
so i get irene fighting pof erza
and august fighting magic less gildarts
and since i dont view magic-less gildarts that high.
but taking hax into account what you says make sense.
lol cubing did nothing. hell at best its a feat-less move.
not so easy. gildarts kept up with august. erza only landed hits when irene was distracted as hell. and that wasnt even her full powers. remember people like to give august ds magic, to give him a chance against irene. irene actually also should have enchantment to increase her stats just like wendy. didnt use that either.
how did august lived up to his hype, or better than irene. the guy beat jellal and co like jacob beat fairy tail guild (basically magical advantage) (or white witch beat fairy tail). he has absolutely no power feat, no speed feat and barely any durablity feat. hell the guy didnt even seems to keep his old copied magic.
meanwhile irene casually turned blumblatt to flowers (hm hm reiko tier move maybe). took a enchanted erza sword to her head while completely distracted (sharply different from august and that butter knife). and one casual dragon strike was enough to break erza sword and all her bones. was only seriously injured by a move arguably stronger than her own top tier move.
irene not living up to her hype other than standard fairy tail crap fight, was because of erza and Wendy shenanigan and people viewing erza starkly weaker than laxus and gildarts (hell alot of people viewed her weaker than gray). nothing more
I don't remember Rufus' magic very well, it was pretty haxxy IIRC but August's was like a massive upgrade to it
He tanked it very well. He wasn't visibly injured significantly, it only gave him minor injuries.
This is what I meant, when I said he was written in a retarded way. Gildarts used up his ONLY source of damage to August, now all that's left is for August to no diff him. Yet he went for a suicide spell for no reason at all.
August didn't use too much of his abilities against Gildarts either, he also mostly engaged in physical combat
August was overwhelming Gildarts in physical combat. This is testament to August's stats as well. This alone would put August above all members of CS in all stats, except potentially speed of Jellol. I'm fairly certain that he would've solo'd them even if he didn't use his copy hax. But like I said, it would've been likely mid diff instead of a no diff
rufus magic was pretty haxy. he could actually copy magic then make the other forget it. of course his opponent forget the spell only for the duration of the match. he could also learn from books.
rufus didnt have august nulifying. but he could learn it and make august forget it
that is a problem. if it did nothing, then august shouldnt have opted for that final move. makes me think that gildart basically finished him with that move. Who knows.
everyone knows august strongest move is to wack is walking stick
i wouldnt say august overwhelmed Gildarts in physical combat. he got some hits in, gildarts got a hit in too.
you are ignoring his nulify hax. which i think gave him the most advantage against CS. as long as he has that CS cant do anything against him
