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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Boruto climbing again, started at 7th and now it's at 5th, it would be really cool if shows a growth compared to the last one :hee

Undead performance resembles me vol 4 of Yozakura, started really good at the top 20 but in 3 days already got out of the top 50, but at least has more chances of appearing on Oricon.
 

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Boruto climbing again, started at 7th and now it's at 5th, it would be really cool if shows a growth compared to the last one :hee

Undead performance resembles me vol 4 of Yozakura, started really good at the top 20 but in 3 days already got out of the top 50, but at least has more chances of appearing on Oricon.
The Kimetsu backlog has really made it much more difficult than it already was for a series to appear in the top 50. With almost half the slots constantly occupied, and the first few slots usually going to the biggest series for whatever is getting released, that leaves newer series with a lot less chances to get into that barrier.
 

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The release of My Hero Academia 28 seems to have boosted the backlog, all volumes are within the top 500. Notice that the last time it got reprints for all volumes was two months ago. 9/3 is one day before the volume's release and 9/6 is two days after.

55 9784088823324 僕のヒーローアカデミア 27 集英社 堀越耕平 2020.7.3
167 9784088822259 僕のヒーローアカデミア 26 集英社 堀越耕平 2020.3.4
346 9784088820743 僕のヒーローアカデミア 25 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.12.4
369 9784088817231 僕のヒーローアカデミア 22 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.2.4
397 9784088817972 僕のヒーローアカデミア 23 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.5.2
456 9784088818801 僕のヒーローアカデミア 24 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.8.2
469 9784088802640 僕のヒーローアカデミア 1 集英社 堀越耕平 2014.11.4
492 9784088816241 僕のヒーローアカデミア 21 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.12.4

48 9784088823324 僕のヒーローアカデミア 27 集英社 堀越耕平 2020.7.3
95 9784088822259 僕のヒーローアカデミア 26 集英社 堀越耕平 2020.3.4
132 9784088820743 僕のヒーローアカデミア 25 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.12.4
141 9784088818801 僕のヒーローアカデミア 24 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.8.2
171 9784088817972 僕のヒーローアカデミア 23 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.5.2
189 9784088817231 僕のヒーローアカデミア 22 集英社 堀越耕平 2019.2.4
210 9784088802640 僕のヒーローアカデミア 1 集英社 堀越耕平 2014.11.4
261 9784088816241 僕のヒーローアカデミア 21 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.12.4
266 9784088802978 僕のヒーローアカデミア 2 集英社 堀越耕平 2015.1.5
287 9784088803357 僕のヒーローアカデミア 3 集英社 堀越耕平 2015.4.3
309 9784088804200 僕のヒーローアカデミア 4 集英社 堀越耕平 2015.6.4
318 9784088804491 僕のヒーローアカデミア 5 集英社 堀越耕平 2015.8.4
352 9784088806075 僕のヒーローアカデミア 7 集英社 堀越耕平 2016.2.4
379 9784088804880 僕のヒーローアカデミア 6 集英社 堀越耕平 2015.11.4
384 9784088806549 僕のヒーローアカデミア 8 集英社 堀越耕平 2016.4.4
397 9784088813806 僕のヒーローアカデミア 18 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.4.4
402 9784088815664 僕のヒーローアカデミア 20 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.9.4
403 9784088806891 僕のヒーローアカデミア 9 集英社 堀越耕平 2016.6.3
414 9784088815121 僕のヒーローアカデミア 19 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.7.4
415 9784088813202 僕のヒーローアカデミア 17 集英社 堀越耕平 2018.2.2
421 9784088812021 僕のヒーローアカデミア 15 集英社 堀越耕平 2017.9.4
441 9784088807799 僕のヒーローアカデミア 10 集英社 堀越耕平 2016.9.2
445 9784088812212 僕のヒーローアカデミア 16 集英社 堀越耕平 2017.11.2
457 9784088811758 僕のヒーローアカデミア 14 集英社 堀越耕平 2017.6.2
480 9784088810492 僕のヒーローアカデミア 13 集英社 堀越耕平 2017.4.4
487 9784088808093 僕のヒーローアカデミア 11 集英社 堀越耕平 2016.11.4
495 9784088810041 僕のヒーローアカデミア 12 集英社 堀越耕平 2017.2.3
 

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Boruto climbing again, started at 7th and now it's at 5th, it would be really cool if shows a growth compared to the last one :hee

Undead performance resembles me vol 4 of Yozakura, started really good at the top 20 but in 3 days already got out of the top 50, but at least has more chances of appearing on Oricon.
Boruto was below things it should've normally been above though, it would've been a catastrophic drop if it actually stayed below kinnikuman or kekkai sensen (which is also a series on a downward trend).

Kinnikuman 71|| 58,282 (4d) || Out
Boruto 11|| 83,613 (5d) || 111,602
Kekkai sensei Back2Back 7 || 78,419 (5d) || 106,025

As for Undead, hard drops are not uncommon due to how packed the middle of the top50 is with backlogs (both KnY, and now SxF). Since these volumes tend to sell very close together, it's very easy to lose a lot of positions in one go, even without dropping that much. Knowing new volume sales are frontloaded while these backlog are generally more consistent, it's more or less normal.
 

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #40 - NEW VOTING SYSTEM (TRIAL / TENTATIVE)​

Sorry for the wait, the poll for issue #40 is now open HERE!

Please read the the thread with the new system trial and the rules!

Alongside the release of Kokosei Kazoku, the extra series this week are:

-Blue Exorcist 124
-Seraph of the End 94
-World Trigger 200 & 201
-Twin Star Exorcists 85
-Platinum End 54
-Jigokuraku 110
-Spy x Family 32
-Kaiju No.8 9
-Ghost Reaper Girl 5
-World's End Harem: Britannia Lumiére 6 & 7
-Excuse Me Dentist, It's Touching Me! 1, 2, 3 & 4 (New Series)


Yes, a lot, but it's the timing of the releases.

Good Votes!
 

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Shoseki Weekly Ranking - 8/31~9/6

#1 Spy x Family 5
#2 My Hero Academia 28
#4 Dr. Stone 17
#5 Boruto 12
#9 Jigokuraku 11
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba TV Anime Character Book
#44 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprins 23
#47 Undead Unluck 3
#63 2.5 Seduction 6
#73 Vigilante -My Hero Academia Illegals- 10
#136 Boukyaku Battery 8

30位24350/50位14650/100位7000/200位4000/300位2900/400位2400/500位2050
 

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So Undead is probably 15k or something, congrats for appearing in the top 50!

Waiting for Oricon, if anything vol.12 of Boruto is very stable since last Dr. Stone vol sold 89k in 3 days and vol.11 of Boruto sold 83k in 5 days and i don't see Stone dropping so think is up by some thousands of copies at least. Also vol.11 came back at #492 this week.

A tv anime book in the top 10, that's something for sure kkkk
 
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Expected a little better from undead but we'll see the number on oricon. This volume does seem to be holding better compared to volume 2 as well so it's alright growth I guess.
Lol @ the kny anime book in the top 10, it shouldn't be on the manga chart for oricon though since it counts as a different category.

Rest is more or less as expected, I guess.
 

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Shoseki Weekly Ranking - 8/31~9/6

#1 Spy x Family 5
#2 My Hero Academia 28
#4 Dr. Stone 17
#5 Boruto 12
#9 Jigokuraku 11
#10 Kimetsu no Yaiba TV Anime Character Book
#44 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprins 23
#47 Undead Unluck 3
#63 2.5 Seduction 6
#73 Vigilante -My Hero Academia Illegals- 10
#136 Boukyaku Battery 8

30位24350/50位14650/100位7000/200位4000/300位2900/400位2400/500位2050
A pretty disappointing number for Undead considering every variable playing here. It's a normal growth from Volume 2, around 2.500 copies more in 1 day less (13.521 for Volume 2 in 4 days, 16.105 for Volume 3 in 3 days), but that's just it, a normal growth that should have happened without anything else happening. Knowing that Volumes 1 and 2 have been ranking daily since results were revealed for Tsugimanga and that they even spiked back when Volume 3 released, this is a bit low. I was at least expecting 18-19.000 copies since Oricon number will probably be even lower. And that's not even considering it appearing on King's Brunch, but I was the one who said that it could do nothing at all given we had past records of it not boosting anything, so I guess I knew already?

Anyway, it'll probably at least appear in Oricon, even with a threshold that would happen in weeks with no volume releases. This month is pretty weak overall.
 

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One Piece and Kingdom will debut next week, which one will do better in your opinion?
 

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A pretty disappointing number for Undead considering every variable playing here. It's a normal growth from Volume 2, around 2.500 copies more in 1 day less (13.521 for Volume 2 in 4 days, 16.105 for Volume 3 in 3 days), but that's just it, a normal growth that should have happened without anything else happening. Knowing that Volumes 1 and 2 have been ranking daily since results were revealed for Tsugimanga and that they even spiked back when Volume 3 released, this is a bit low. I was at least expecting 18-19.000 copies since Oricon number will probably be even lower. And that's not even considering it appearing on King's Brunch, but I was the one who said that it could do nothing at all given we had past records of it not boosting anything, so I guess I knew already?

Anyway, it'll probably at least appear in Oricon, even with a threshold that would happen in weeks with no volume releases. This month is pretty weak overall.
Volume 3 seems to have better hold though and the first two volumes backlogs are stable too. I think it will still pass 30k first month.

One Piece and Kingdom will debut next week, which one will do better in your opinion?
Isn't Kingdom like a 700k seller?? OP will do much more than that first week.
 

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Volume 3 seems to have better hold though and the first two volumes backlogs are stable too. I think it will still pass 30k first month.
Not denying any of that, and still even expecting it to show a better improvement in the following weeks and hopefully reaching 4th week for the first time of this series. Still, it could have had a better start.
 

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An interesting thing about next week is that the Oricon top 3 should look like that :
#1 : One Piece 97
#2 : Kingdom 59
#3 : Attack on Titan 32

Those three are arguably the 3 most important manga of the decade (2010-2019) when it comes to Oricon rankings, and for the first time ever they are going to have the top 3 for themselves.
The sad thing is that, of those three, two have seen an extremely steep drop in sales. And their new volumes won't help.
 

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You never know, anything can happen.
No it can't, why are we even having this argument? OP's last volume sold 1mln in 3 days, Kingdom's sold 420k. Now as much as OP's sales are declining and Kingdom's are healthy, this gap isn't going to close next volume, how is this even a question lmao.
 

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No it can't, why are we even having this argument? OP's last volume sold 1mln in 3 days, Kingdom's sold 420k. Now as much as OP's sales are declining and Kingdom's are healthy, this gap isn't going to close next volume, how is this even a question lmao.
 
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