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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

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Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Not trying to attack anyone, liking or not the chapter is one thing, but calling this week Yozakura chapter a filler is just a disservice for the series, it's about developing and showing the bond and love between the main couple so far, which is the main point of the entire series, Taiyo and Mutsumi, mindless action is much more of a filler than a chapter like this that is about the core of the series.

Also Stivie, it's literally sea delinquents, don't try to reach this high with exorcist stuff or you will end up meeting God lol
HARD disagree. Cop and Dolphins is basically sea delinquents, like how everyone else has said.
Tamura isn't even trying to hide this side of it.
Okay, they're sea delinquent. But that does not change the complaint factor of "another exorcist manga", since almost half of the jump magazine is occupied by comedy manga does not make any sense.
And the saturation is so great that I almost want to drop Yozakura. And look, I like Yozakura, but there are more interesting things in other magazines than in the jump.
 

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Okay, they're sea delinquent. But that does not change the complaint factor of "another exorcist manga", since almost half of the jump magazine is occupied by comedy manga does not make any sense.
And the saturation is so great that I almost want to drop Yozakura. And look, I like Yozakura, but there are more interesting things in other magazines than in the jump.
This is just basically the "i read everything" syndrome going on specifically about Shonen Jump, imagine if people were able to read everything weekly from Shonen Magazine and Shonen Sunday? it would be "oh my God, SM is saturated with so much romcom" or "I can't stand slice of life series anymore on Sunday".

You're overreacting a lot about comedy, also, Yozakura is a blend of comedy and action, not even full gag, so i don't know whats the deal lol
 

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What was the last ch 1 of a jump series that you loved?
I absolutely loved phantom seer’s first chapter but the 2 chapters after that haven’t been up to par. I’m still going to give it 10 more chapters to see if it is my type of series but so far I’m not really feeling it.
 

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This is just basically the "i read everything" syndrome going on specifically about Shonen Jump, imagine if people were able to read everything weekly from Shonen Magazine and Shonen Sunday? it would be "oh my God, SM is saturated with so much romcom" or "I can't stand slice of life series anymore on Sunday".

You're overreacting a lot about comedy, also, Yozakura is a blend of comedy and action, not even full gag, so i don't know whats the deal lol
I personally see no problem with 4 romantic comedies in the magazine and the young jump.
I read cuckoo fiancee, kanojo 100 and Kaguya and have fun. I would even like to see more romances on the jump, and I don't hate comedy manga, but 8 is desperation, 3 of which are in the botton and when they cancel, will there be more comedy?
Yozakura no matter how romantic it is, he gives more prominence to comedy than to romance or action, the previous arc showed that the author does not want to make Yozakura a battle shonen but he should have worked the romance better, creating more conflicts as in Kaguya sama for example.
 

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Was masanori Morita against anime adaptations or is there another reason why his 2 main works didn’t get animated?
 

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I personally see no problem with 4 romantic comedies in the magazine and the young jump.
I read cuckoo fiancee, kanojo 100 and Kaguya and have fun. I would even like to see more romances on the jump, and I don't hate comedy manga, but 8 is desperation, 3 of which are in the botton and when they cancel, will there be more comedy?
Yozakura no matter how romantic it is, he gives more prominence to comedy than to romance or action, the previous arc showed that the author does not want to make Yozakura a battle shonen but he should have worked the romance better, creating more conflicts as in Kaguya sama for example.
He did like 6/7 consecutive chapters with action and more serious plot, not to mention the many ones before this arc, this is already much more than Amano did with Reborn in 60 chapters before going full action, so i don't see where he "doesn't want" to go for action arcs, also, the series isn't a "romcom" it just have some romantic elements, it would be very "meh" if Gondaira start to create generic romcom drama between Taiyo and Mutsumi, isn't really the point of the series and it would drag it down.

Very obvious why you don't have a problem with Magazine romcoms, you only read one, they have 4 full romcoms with another one already announced in the future, not to mention other series who relies in romcom/romance stuff like the shogi one and Hitman.

You're mixing gag with series that mix comedy and other genres, Jump was always like this, it will always have mix of comedy with other genres, and gag series, isn't desperation, is just how the magazine works
 

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He did like 6/7 consecutive chapters with action and more serious plot, not to mention the many ones before this arc, this is already much more than Amano did with Reborn in 60 chapters before going full action, so i don't see where he "doesn't want" to go for action arcs, also, the series isn't a "romcom" it just have some romantic elements, it would be very "meh" if Gondaira start to create generic romcom drama between Taiyo and Mutsumi, isn't really the point of the series and it would drag it down.

Very obvious why you don't have a problem with Magazine romcoms, you only read one, they have 4 full romcoms with another one already announced in the future, not to mention other series who relies in romcom/romance stuff like the shogi one and Hitman.

You're mixing gag with series that mix comedy and other genres, Jump was always like this, it will always have mix of comedy with other genres, and gag series, isn't desperation, is just how the magazine works
It is desperate, because you see the 8 comedy sleeves you realize that 3 of them Moriking, magu chan and Roboko are exactly alike, both in theme and in history. I do not doubt that the fact that Moriking sold poorly was due to the cannibalization of the other series.
The jump was much better in 2018 and 2019, if it was always like that then it's time to change.

About Yozakura, if you had inserted another interesting lover for Mutsumi before, it would be more interesting to have a rival for Taiyo.
or rather, it makes Futaba or shion rivals of Mutsumi for Taiyo, at least that way they would have better development.
 

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It is desperate, because you see the 8 comedy sleeves you realize that 3 of them Moriking, magu chan and Roboko are exactly alike, both in theme and in history. I do not doubt that the fact that Moriking sold poorly was due to the cannibalization of the other series.
The jump was much better in 2018 and 2019, if it was always like that then it's time to change.
I haven't read Moriking, so not going to comment on that.

But Magu-chan and Roboco are nothing alike. Just because they have more cute art style and some wholesome moments doesn't make them same at all. The comedy and jokes they go for are completely different.
That's like saying Ricky Gervais and Tim Minchin are alike because they are comedians and both make fun of religion when in reality their styles and execution of jokes are as different as night and day thereby attracting different audiences.
 

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #41 - NEW VOTING SYSTEM​

Sorry for the wait, the poll for issue #41 is now open HERE!

The system and number of J-Points allowed is the same from the last poll!

Alongside the release of Bokura no Ketsumei, the extra series this week are:

-Jigokuraku 111
-Kaiju No.8 10
-World's End Harem: Britannia Lumiére 8 & 9
-Excuse Me Dentist, It's Touching Me! 5 & 6


Good Votes!
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Sign edited, TPG and BTW removed (when season 2 starts will bring back) and Phantom Seer, Kokosei Kazoku and Bokura no Ketsumei added!

Jump has 2 free space but is more like 1 since they always try to run from working with 21 series at the same time or at least always for a shorter time, i expect this group to be like this at least until december or january of 2021.

 

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I do not doubt that the fact that Moriking sold poorly was due to the cannibalization of the other series.
You do know that it is entirely possible that moriking did not sell well because people didn't like so they didn't buy it.
 

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You do know that it is entirely possible that moriking did not sell well because people didn't like so they didn't buy it.
but this also applies to cannibalizing, the person saw Moriking and I don't think it was interesting for Roboko or Magu chan and became more interested in them.
 

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About Yozakura, if you had inserted another interesting lover for Mutsumi before, it would be more interesting to have a rival for Taiyo.
or rather, it makes Futaba or shion rivals of Mutsumi for Taiyo, at least that way they would have better development.
Taiyo and Mutsumi are engaged from chapter 1, they love each other from the beginning, they married dozens of chapters ago, they are a couple, they're not romcom main characters who are not together and has yet to tell their feelings to each other, you even have many characters that are "crazy" about her but she don't like any of them so creating cliche romcom drama between the 2 isn't the point of the series because both are already a married couple in love, there's no "rival" in love just a bunch of crazy spies/criminals going after her for many reasons.
 

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Taiyo and Mutsumi are engaged from chapter 1, they love each other from the beginning, they married dozens of chapters ago, they are a couple, they're not romcom main characters who are not together and has yet to tell their feelings to each other, you even have many characters that are "crazy" about her but she don't like any of them so creating cliche romcom drama between the 2 isn't the point of the series because both are already a married couple in love, there's no "rival" in love just a bunch of crazy spies/criminals going after her for many reasons.
So explore this better, don't be doing an isolated chapter every week on a crazy criminal who will only appear once.
Personally I think Yozakura would be better as a cliché novel, after all Gondaira has already shown that he does not know or is not interested in doing battle shonen.
 

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So explore this better, don't be doing an isolated chapter every week on a crazy criminal who will only appear once.
Personally I think Yozakura would be better as a cliché novel, after all Gondaira has already shown that he does not know or is not interested in doing battle shonen.
Stivie, are you sure you know what you're reading? IT'S NOT A ROMCOM!

Yozakura it's a mix of comedy with action manga and some elements of romance, the manga doesn't have to spend chapters and chapters or a entire arc exploring romance since they're already in love and engaged from the first chapter and the series isn't a romance one, chapters like this week one are already enough to reinforce their love and make it stronger, why you're saying the series would be better as a "cliche novel"? it doesn't make any sense, Gondaira just made the best arc in the series so far with the last 6/7 chapters and you're talking about him not being interested in doing action lol
 

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UNDEAD unluck keep delivering that HIGH TRAIN pace and plot. High energy, non stop action/event. its so ridicolous.. i love it.
last chapter tozuka sensei said, training arc?? Skip that shit..
this chapter, tozuka said. TR***** storyline should be planted and to be drag for 50-100 chapter (many arc) to be revealed?? nah, i will make it less than 3 chapter,. take it or leave it..

i was always wondering how author can up after every arc. but with how UU world being built, the possiblity is endless..
 

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Pretty weak issue overall. Even series that almost never miss for me like Undead and Mashle fell much flatter than they normally do.

This week's top 5:
1. Magu-chan: God of Destruction - Even though Magu-chan acts all cocky, he can end up being oddly caring when push comes to shove.
2. Mission: Yozakura Family - So much Mutsumi, brilliant move.
3. We Never Learn - Great romantic moments in this chapter, plus nice fanservice.
4. Moriking - The king to too powerful for our little hornet girl to handle.
5. Mashle - Pretty oddly-paced chapter, but still decent. The fight was a bit anti-climactic.

The best of the rest:
6. Undead Unluck - I thought I missed something at first since there were some events that really seemed to come out of nowhere.
7. Chainsaw Man - Some background information is nice to have.
8. Me & Roboco - Gorilla is a good boy. That's about all there is to say about this week's chapter.
9. Ayakashi Triangle - Not a fan of that ninja side character. Last week's chapter was much better.
10. High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku - I felt like basically nothing really happened whatsoever. Pretty boring chapter.
11. Agravity Boys - I was excited by the first half of the chapter just to be thoroughly disappointed by the direction it took in the second half.
12. Burn the Witch - Wonder if season 2 will be more interesting than this one?
13. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin - The fight scene wasn't very interesting, and the dramatic tension didn't really leave much impact.
14. Honomieru Shonen - Boring chapter with forgettable fights and characters.
15. Our Blood Oath - This was a pretty difficult chapter to get through. Not sure if I'm going to last through 3 of these. First chapter was pretty choppy. Not a fan of this at all.
 

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Did no one posted about the new digital mini series on Shonen Jump called Neru?


Jump could start this for real instead of just a mini series, at least something more different than the rest, it's rare to see a martial arts series on Jump
 
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